Wavedashing OoS

[Red Rice]

This is directed toward people who, in Melee, used two different buttons for wavedashing and shielding. E.g. shielded with L and wavedashed with R.

So in PM you can't do that, or at least so I've tried and every time I just do a FH. Does that mean I'm going to have to adapt to wavedashing OoS with the same button? Has anyone had to do this/how hard was it to adjust?

 

[standardtoaster]

You can light press to shield with one button and hard press the other to air dodge. The game does not read a second hard press as another button input. That's why you can't hard press shield with one and hard press to air dodge with the other. Your other option is to learn how to wd OoS with one button

 

[Red Rice]

You can light press to shield with one button and hard press the other to air dodge. The game does not read a second hard press as another button input. That's why you can't hard press shield with one and hard press to air dodge with the other. Your other option is to learn how to wd OoS with one button

Hmm that's really unfortunate because I took the springs out of my controller...

Curious, why is it designed that way? Is it possible to change that?

 

[Celestis]

Hmm that's really unfortunate because I took the springs out of my controller...

Curious, why is it designed that way? Is it possible to change that?

Because Brawl does not read L and R as individual buttons, or anything mapped to shield. So its Brawl's fault. So as far as Brawl knows, once shield is pressed, all shield buttons are pressed.

 

[Fortress]

Hmm that's really unfortunate because I took the springs out of my controller...

Curious, why is it designed that way? Is it possible to change that?

It gets easier. I use only one trigger with springs removed and tabs broken, and I can WDOoS fairly easily. It's just a motion you get used to.

 

[Red Rice]

I don't know much about mods or anything but I'm guessing that means you can't change that in PM so that a shield input is solely inputted for that button?

 

[standardtoaster]

At the moment, no, we are unable to make them read as separate buttons

 

[Coonce]

This confounded me for the longest time. Good to know!

 

[TheKmanOfSmash]

Forget what everyone else is saying about alternating hard press with light press or using one button. You don't have to change the button setup you currently use to wavedash OoS. You can use the same setup, you just need to adjust the timing at which you press the buttons. In Melee, most likely you were continuing to hold the shield button (L) as you did the wavedash OoS. In P:M (and Melee, too), you can literally let go of your shield button (L) and immediately wavedash out with your wavedash button (R). Same effect. Even though there is a lot of cool down from a shield drop before you can do an attack in Melee/P:M (letting go of L), you can cancel those frames with a jump, meaning you can cancel them with a wavedash, giving the appearance of a wavedash OoS. It may not be frame perfect, but it's close enough to where the difference really doesn't matter at all. Since I use one button to shield and one button to wavedash, this is how I wavedash OoS in P:M.

Again, the only difference here is that you're letting go of the shield button instead of continuously holding it down like you did in Melee and then wavedashing afterwards. I think you can adapt to doing that with some practice, no?