Wavedash utility

[Link24a]

I know how to wavedash, but often refrain from doing it due to having no idea what to do with it. Like, when should I use it in neutral and what should I do after it?

 

[KevJames]

Implement them with your dash-dancing to improve your movement. Many times I feel like if i might mess up my dash-dancing or my spacing, wavedashing is a good tool to place yourself in a better position. It is also easier to attack out of wavedashing compared to dash-dancing, so you need to know when to use certain mobility techniques. I believe the most important utility for wavedashing is wavelanding, allowing you to use the stage more efficiently. Marth is pretty floaty, so his vertical movement isn't as fast as his ground movement. Wavelanding allows him to increase his horizontal speed when using platforms; on the ground, Marth can SH fair/bair into a waveland in your desired direction for good follow-ups on tech chases.

 

[-=Untamed-Beast=-]

Well first, let's look at what wavedash does:
On a more basic level, it allows you to quickly reposition yourself without ever changing the direction you're facing. How is this useful? A common fake-out is to dash toward the opponent and then wavedash backwards and use a smash attack. Without wavedashing, you would have had to turn around to back away from them.
Wavedashing is also uses as a quick way to grab the ledge while on stage. There are various ways to do this, which you can observe in watching high level players guard the ledge.
On a more advanced level, wavedash pushes your momentum heavily in the direction you wavedashed in. The best way to observe this is to wavedash one way, and input a dash in the other direction. Notice that you basically go nowhere. Using that to your advantage if something you don't need to worry about at the early stages of play, but nevertheless you should be aware of it's effects as you learn to move with Marth.

Now, let's look at what the wavedash actually is:
A jump that is immediately interrupted by an airdodge toward the ground. Why is this important to know? The #1 example is that you because you can jump out of your shield, you can wavedash out of your shield. Normally, you cannot walk or dash out of your shield unless you actually let go of the shield and wait until you're able to move again. With this, you can defend yourself with shield wand immediately reposition yourself to either pursue the opponent or retreat to safety. This is also faster than rolling out shield, but the trade off is that you are not invincible while doing this like you are when rolling.

Your best bet is to watch a lot of tournament matches and take note of all the various ways wavedashing (and wavelanding) is used.

 

[Link24a]

A common fake-out is to dash toward the opponent and then wavedash backwards and uses a smash attack.

sounds awfully scrubby but itll probably work against the people i play

On a more advanced level, wavedash pushes your momentum heavily in the direction you wavedashed in. The best way to observe this is to wavedash one way, and input a dash in the other direction. Notice that you basically go nowhere. Using that to your advantage if something you don't need to worry about at the early stages of play, but nevertheless you should be aware of it's effects as you learn to move with Marth.

will note

Now, let's look at what the wavedash actually is:
A jump that is immediately interrupted by an airdodge toward the ground. Why is this important to know? The #1 example is that you because you can jump out of your shield, you can wavedash out of your shield.

yeah ive tried that. the level of OOS punishes i need dont really require that yet, could be good for mixup if both off us are stuck in shield, though.

I'm gonna try and avoid wavelanding for a while because im still attempting to L cancel more than 70% of the time

thanks for the mini-guide

 

[Dandy_here]

wavedashing is good for repositioning and baiting out your opponent, and for defensive measures. Never wavedash and just stand there afterwards. A good way to use wave dashing is when your opponent is at ledge and does an attack coming off of the ledge. When they come up, wavedash back and throw out an f smash. Also wavedashing is like dashdancing in the sense that you have to figure out its uses