Wavebouncing Side B

[LordoftheMorning]

This AT is something every character can do, but I really haven't seen anyone use it effectively. It seems like something that COULD be put to great use though, and that's wavebouncing. Wavebouncing is essentially b-sticking without the b-stick. It's a special move used with an input on the c-stick in order to change the momentum of the character. There was a good thread for it in the brawl tactical disscussion.

Anyways.... Side B. Powerful, long-ranged, and lingering hitbox. It seems ideal for wavebouncing. A wavebounced Side B would be a side B perform in the air with a backwards momentum.

Does anyone know what I'm talking about? I feel like I haven't explained it well. I'm pretty sure it's somewhat common knowledge.

Should one incorporate wavebouncing into their ZZS game? Does anyone here use it? Does it help?

 

[DeliciousCake]

This AT is something every character can do, but I really haven't seen anyone use it effectively. It seems like something that COULD be put to great use though, and that's wavebouncing. Wavebouncing is essentially b-sticking without the b-stick. It's a special move used with an input on the c-stick in order to change the momentum of the character. There was a good thread for it in the brawl tactical disscussion.

Wrong. Wavebouncing was discovered through using the b-stick, and is the only reason why most people b-stick at all. Wavebouncing is possible without b-sticking, but much harder.

I wavebounce once in a blue moon, without b-sticking. It's not worth giving up spaced aerials and quick d-smash. It's not as useful as you would think because of the dead zone.

 

[LordoftheMorning]

Wrong. Wavebouncing was discovered through using the b-stick, and is the only reason why most people b-stick at all. Wavebouncing is possible without b-sticking, but much harder.

I am aware of this. I'm not wrong. That's why I changed my R to 'special'. I wouldn't look at wavebouncing twice if I had to give up c-sticking. With my control set up there is nothing to lose from wavebouncing. And so how can it be used?

 

[Julz]

"wavebouncing" is actually a retreating special, I find it more beneficial to do it the hard way because that lets me do both retreating specials and retreating aerials.

 

[FreakingMethodiC]

If you're good at spacing you really don't need to wavebounce. I see most people jump backwards when they Side-B to space regardless.

 

[Tezmata]

Am I the only one that thinks the name for this is hella ********?

 

[FreakingMethodiC]

Am I the only one that thinks the name for this is hella ********?

As long as it isn't named after the guy who found it. It sits well with me.

 

[LordoftheMorning]

I know what wavebouncing is. I know how to do it without b-sticking. I'm not asking how or what. I'm asking for what reason. Thank you to the people who actually posted their opinion on whether it was useful or not.>_>

 

[FreakingMethodiC]

I know what wavebouncing is. I know how to do it without b-sticking. I'm not asking how or what. I'm asking for what reason. Thank you to the people who actually posted their opinion on whether it was useful or not.>_>

No, problem. I personally havent seen much use for it at all. It looks really nice on ZSS and Link but never seen anyone at high level use it.

 

[LordoftheMorning]

Neither have I. But I can't help thinking "why not?" If one could do it 100% of the time without thinking about it, it think it could be of some use.

 

[Taalcon]

I actually use it. The dead zone is an issue though, but it adds a bit of unpredictability to her air movement. I think it's good to mix up your spacing (spam) a little bit. It also increases the range that ZSS can edgeguard off the screen because of the momentum boost. Does anyone know how to do a retreating sideB? If I try to retreat it, I just do a sideB in the opposite direction I was facing instead of going backwards while still sideBing forwards.