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Warlock punch knocking out super armor

litlwing

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Well the other day i was playing against an Ike at bridge of eldin and he used aether to get back up and i had started warlock punch (by accident :p) and as he rose to grab his sword the punch connected and sent him flying.

Im not absolutely sure as to what happened here but i do know what factors where in play, warlock punch hitting Ike during aether.

maybe someone could discuss this or test it as i dont have the time to and maybe if it really does work it can be employed on other super armor moves.

of course im not sure how it could have happened but theres always the chance that this was some freaky fluke, but I really dont know how.

well, get on it, discuss, test, believe in the warlock punches power or completely discredit this because i dont have a video, just do something, i dont care, jsut figure out what the heck happened
 

litlwing

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well i figure his SAF must have been stopped but i could swear he was still rising and his SAF dont end till he reaches his sword (which im pretty sure he never did) could it be possible that a single, hard enough hit could knock some one out of SA? there arnt many single hits that hit like the warlock punch, and dosent the WP have SAF for like a fraction? not sure.
 

A2ZOMG

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Kirby's Down-B is not Super Armor. I'm pretty sure it has a damage buffer very similar to Snake's "super armor" meaning that any hits that do under a certain damage will not break it. In Snake's super armor, his Up-B absorbs knockback from attacks that do at most 7%.

Super Armor stops FSes in case you didn't know, so Warlock Punching Ike successfully means he didn't use his SA frames right.
 

litlwing

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well what FS do more then the warlock punch with a single strike that dont have a just plain grab kinda function like links triforce slash (which is actually muiltiple hits but still paralyses the opponent from long range) or ganon's which does a but load but also paralyses, i know marths is probably the strongest without a paralysing function. im not saying thats wrong its just that i thought ike's SA lasted all the way till he regrabbed his sword and im pretty sure he hadnt grabbed it yet. course i dont have my game right now so i cant test this, ha.

if you come right down to it, even if Warlock punch can break SA, its still not very practical, even less so then the volcano kick which atleast has edge guarding potential
 

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Warlock Punch punches people through walls.

In custom stages anyway... And at 999% but it's still amazing.
 

Akashi

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Ike's aether SAF wears as soon as he starts to rise for his sword. The only time when it's in effect is when he throws his sword upwards.

edit: This can easily be tested by placing Marth near a ledge and countering Ike's Aether.
 

litlwing

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ok well if his armor doesnt last till he graps his sword then thats probably what happend, but its still amazing punching ike as he screams while rising to his sword and sending him flying like a big ball of death. So it has been tested on marth right? then thats that. to bad, would have given it a use if it was possible
 

Arigatex

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Ike's aether SAF wears as soon as he starts to rise for his sword. The only time when it's in effect is when he throws his sword upwards.

edit: This can easily be tested by placing Marth near a ledge and countering Ike's Aether.
This.... try it while ike is facing the other way and do a WP on land SAF only while he throws the sword as akashi said
 
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