Videos of my fox.

[Hylian]

So I finally uploaded some videos. These were played today.

Hylian(Fox) vs GravityAB(Falco) 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6n7Ggfl1o8s

Hylian(Fox) vs GravityAB(Falco) 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIHCD9FpqTI

Hylian(Fox) vs GravityAB(Falco) 3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NdelfI3n2M

Hylian(Fox) vs GravityAB(Falco) 4:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOc3l0g4f2g

Hylian(Fox) vs GravityAB(Falco) 5:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKJPcpHlwrU

Hylian(Fox) vs GravityAB(Falco) 6:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vW1p5Ec0CXE

There you go. Feel free to comment/give advice if you want.

 

[SCOTU]

Finally get to see some vids of Hylian, i told you to post some a while ago.

*goes to watch vids*

1st game= stupid. in many ways. Don't try to pressure shields w/ waveshines.
Really aggressive edgegaurding. feel free to tone it down a bunch, and just charge an fsmash.
2nd game= Use some more platform movement, you pretty much played the whole game on the bottom stage, which is where a falco wants you. Also note, if you miss a shine spike, DJ bair works great.
3rd game= doesn't look like you're keeping a close eye on what you're opponent is doing, and where you're at.
4th game= do you realize how many times he jumped back w/ a dair when you back threw him? If the falco suspects it, you will die. Try bairs if they do that, it'll guarntee a kill. Also, shine after a dthrow.
5th game= Note, that the shine as an edgeguard only really works if you're against the edge.
6th game= use the **** platforms, its what they're there for.

Overall:
-Full hop nair more
-laser more (yes you can against falco)
-ledgehop drillgrab>gimp combo
-it's not necessary to shine "gimp" someone when they are over 100%.
-uthrow more.
-Your instant nairs were one of your strong points
-waveshine>jab usage was good
-ledgehop stall were used well, firestalls could have been added.

I was hoping to see:
-a match on FD, to see how you handle your throw combo game
-someone who's not falco, so i could see your self proclaimed awesome laser game.

 

[Hylian]

Finally get to see some vids of Hylian, i told you to post some a while ago.

*goes to watch vids*

1st game= stupid. in many ways. Don't try to pressure shields w/ waveshines.
Really aggressive edgegaurding. feel free to tone it down a bunch, and just charge an fsmash.
2nd game= Use some more platform movement, you pretty much played the whole game on the bottom stage, which is where a falco wants you. Also note, if you miss a shine spike, DJ bair works great.
3rd game= doesn't look like you're keeping a close eye on what you're opponent is doing, and where you're at.
4th game= do you realize how many times he jumped back w/ a dair when you back threw him? If the falco suspects it, you will die. Try bairs if they do that, it'll guarntee a kill. Also, shine after a dthrow.
5th game= Note, that the shine as an edgeguard only really works if you're against the edge.
6th game= use the **** platforms, its what they're there for.

Overall:
-Full hop nair more
-laser more (yes you can against falco)
-ledgehop drillgrab>gimp combo
-it's not necessary to shine "gimp" someone when they are over 100%.
-uthrow more.
-Your instant nairs were one of your strong points
-waveshine>jab usage was good
-ledgehop stall were used well, firestalls could have been added.

I was hoping to see:
-a match on FD, to see how you handle your throw combo game
-someone who's not falco, so i could see your self proclaimed awesome laser game.

Yeah thanks for the advice. Falco is by far my worst match-up. If you watch me play a peach and then watch me play a falco my fox looks wayyy differnt. I like to move around a lot and I get frustrated with falcos lasers. I do much better with samus if you watched those lol. I really do need help against falco >_>. I know in theory what to do but I cannot apply it at all.

Gravity is going to upload many more matchs of me playing different characters >_>. I was actually sad I didn't get a match on FD lol because chaingrabbing is one of my strong points.

Thanks for the tips I will work on my game against falco.

Also we recorded me lasering across FD for fun XD, That will be put up soon enough.

 

[SCOTU]

Yeah, i know what you mean about the peach> falco matchup... my flashiest game is against peach, and there's no flash in my falco game...

So you handle the throw game w/ chain throws? I guess i really just wanted to see how you use it vs the usmash, and how you integrated utitls/ nairs into your throw combo game, since i've got good suggestions there if you didn't already have it covered.

I hear you hate fox dittos though? too bad, i wanted to ditto you at FC.

 

[Wilhelmsan]

Watched like 30 seconds of the first one.

totally ********

edit: if you have any good Fox/Marth vids, those are usually the best gauge of a Fox.

lmao @ getting shieldgrabbed out of Thunders'

2nd edit: okay, I guess it's time for me to give you advice huh

Against Falco: avoiding their lasers on a level like Yoshi's Story with the 3 platforms is pretty simple. On a level where you can't avoid them: jump and airdodge/waveland. Don't worry about taking 2 or 3 hits while far away. Worry about getting hit when you're near him.

-Falco's utilt is friggin' beastly in its priority and comboability. If he starts spamming it, immediately bair him in the face. If you're next to him, waveshield away or grab.

-Getting out of Falco's combos is all about some good SDI and teching. You seem to understand this well enough.

-In the first video, notice when you landed a grab to upsmash then he fell on the platform without teching. What was your followup of choice? SHINE? WTF??? Think a little man. You would've been 10x better off hitting him with a shuffled uair -> uair -> uair -> ?. Instead you ended the combo. Beating Falco without being able to combo the mess out of him is really hard.

-You approached most of the time with either a shuffled or fulljumped dair. Dair has nice high priority, but it's painfully easy to outspace and punish. Try using more fullhopped fastfalled nair into shine. It cuts off all of Falco's approach game, and I don't think you use it enough.

-Showing off in between stocks got you killed most of the time

-Work on your Lcancelling into shine, as always

-Use less upB

-Grab more

Good luck against those pesky Falcos

 

[Oskurito]

Firedash xD!! uh don't bother with those shines if you can't pillar, seriously people that don't roll dodge are pretty stupid... when they're shielding too much just grab them, is much better. I'm telling you this cause my friends now that i can pillar so well and they roll dodge every time I try something to pressure them... fox vs. falco is... well the match up is pretty ****ed up so there isn't anything bad about how you were playing(except by things already mentioned). I just saw the first match and you leaved me with the impression of a decent fox but not very impressive.

Just tell me when you upload other vids of your fox vs. other chars (preferably shine combo-able) or of your samus. And if you've really recorded yourself just lasering on FD tell me cause I'll like to see your skills, specially to be sure if all you've told me(told us...) is true.

BTW do you want to check out my recent videos? its me vs a marth =)

 

[Hylian]

Firedash xD!! uh don't bother with those shines if you can't pillar, seriously people that don't roll dodge are pretty stupid... when they're shielding too much just grab them, is much better. I'm telling you this cause my friends now that i can pillar so well and they roll dodge every time I try something to pressure them... fox vs. falco is... well the match up is pretty ****ed up so there isn't anything bad about how you were playing(except by things already mentioned). I just saw the first match and you leaved me with the impression of a decent fox but not very impressive.

Just tell me when you upload other vids of your fox vs. other chars (preferably shine combo-able) or of your samus. And if you've really recorded yourself just lasering on FD tell me cause I'll like to see your skills, specially to be sure if all you've told me(told us...) is true.

BTW do you want to check out my recent videos? its me vs a marth =)

I have videos of my samus right now >_>.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8ZErcqgcTk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe05Se-i-o8&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzGEfJwCxAw&mode=related&search=

And the first match was the first time I played fox that day so I wasn't warmed up at all . I can actually pillar pretty well.

 

[Oskurito]

ok don't worry, I know what you're talking about. Im gonna check those later since now im pretty busy. Btw can you check my new videos? If you want then go to the same last thread.

 

[kerploplesteesh]

well... most everything that can be covered has been.

im sure you know that you could have rolled onto the stage or ledge stalled to win that first match.

the only things i can strongly suggest in your falco match up are to learn how to edgegaurd that friggin' bird out of the sky and think more about what moves have comboability against him. (you want to hit him up, not over)

 

[SCOTU]

on the contrary, hitting that c*ck over makes it easier to jerk on... if you know what i mean. and if you don't, i mean knock him off stage, and edgegaurd. that should be your main strategy.

EDIT: i can't believe the filter c*ck, but not hell

 

[kerploplesteesh]

i was speaking solely in terms of racking percent. If you have a chance to knock him off the stage, use it. duhhhh