Using HA to edgeguard Fox/Falco?

[Cabej]

I've seen a lot of people say that using HA against Fox/Falco is a good way to gimp their recovery off stage. But, whenever I try, my HA always gets stopped by their flames and they recover anyway. So, can anyone give me some tips or post a video so I can see it done properly?

 

[MWEX]

Well, you are doing something wrong, if you're just getting hit with flames, the best throw to use then HA, is DThrow

 

[Cabej]

Thanks, I'll give a shot

 

[KiNGMONiR]

Key is to run off stage and hit them FAST. I usually catch them during the up-B startup and it's deadly.

HA against the up-B timed correctly is so safe in fact that I do 3 or 4 in a row for style when they're stuck trying to up-B constantly after getting hit...

EDIT: Please don't challenge Falco's side-B. Getting spiked by that sucks!

 

[Cabej]

Yeah, I figured out the fact about falco the hard way. I entirely forgot it worked like that in melee, lol.

 

[Pr0fessor Flash]

if Fox is under you use nair if not then hope the HA got the hit Falco is basically a free stock