Unlockables? Oh my!

[Homelessvagrant]

So there's been debate about what 's unlockable and what's not. Originally people believed that all given info would be given as starting gameplay. But Sakurai showed us that was not to be when discussing Snake as a unlockable character.

Next people branded characters with the sign below as unlockables



but that was proven not the case, when the nice folks from smash blog enlightened us. So how can we tell what is unlockable and what's not? Well nobody can really say. However I have a really good guess that's completely logic based. On the smash site anyone can notice that some stages/ characters are seen in pics while still not comfirmed.



this is a pic from metaknight from smash dojo. (A presumed starter in this case)

These characters/stages included:
Metaknight
Pokemon colluseum
Halberd

Characters/Stages seen in the trailers not included are:
Snake
Helipad
Mario kart



The mario kart stage, a stage yet to be seen in the brawl site ( a possible unlockable stage in brawl)


Do you see where I'm gettin at. I believe the characters not shown are possibly part of the unlockables and Sakurai is trying to make us forget about these characters/stages so it'll be more of a suprise later.

I believe that Metaknight has yet to be covered because of a possible role in the story mode sakurai wants to suprise us with. In the halberd stage the clouds are the evil primid red color seen. That means it may have something to do with the story as well. I myself am expecting a half week of metaknight posts sometime in the future.

So what do you think about unlockables, do you think I'm onto something, or completely useless? Post what you think.

 

[Dylan_Tnga]

I believe that Metaknight has yet to be covered because of a possible role in the story mode sakurai wants to suprise us with. In the halberd stage the clouds are the evil primid red color seen. That means it may have something to do with the story as well. I myself am expecting a half week of metaknight posts sometime in the future.

I think you're onto something here, and very good logic in general.

I can't agree with you or disagree, as you are meerly thinking out loud and making theories.

But this post of yours did inspire some new thoughts in my head... thanks for that

 

[Andromeda]

I think that the characters will be unlockable in a Super Mario 64 DS-kind of way. From the movies we've seen so far, I think you will start with Kirby in The Subspace Emmisary, and then unlock new characters (that you already not have in Normal Mode) as the story progresses. Kirby will have to defeat Petey, and save one of the princesses. When that's done, the second princess must be rescued. And along the way, they meet up with new characters, who will be unlocked!

Those are just speculations, of course, but that's how I think it will be.

 

[Kelp Plankton]

I think the "unlock characters as you meet them" idea has a great amount of potential, especially if we get to see some kickass cutscenes introducing them.

*prays for a Sonic-Mario teamup cutscene, as it would be the most beautiful thing in gaming*

But I also think there will be other ways to unlock characters, through Classic mode and minigames, as per Melee.

I could see Subspace Emissary being the source of most unlockables, though.

 

[Homelessvagrant]

I think the "unlock characters as you meet them" idea has a great amount of potential, especially if we get to see some kickass cutscenes introducing them.

*prays for a Sonic-Mario teamup cutscene, as it would be the most beautiful thing in gaming*

But I also think there will be other ways to unlock characters, through Classic mode and minigames, as per Melee.

I could see Subspace Emissary being the source of most unlockables, though.

And I agree with you there JediNaruto but I hope that not all the characters are unlockable that way cause I do want to have a motive to play the other modes (like how you had to unlock Falco and Marth). Maybe there will be some difficult routes in story mode that could be passed to unlock a hard worked for Sonic and then you can get your Mario-Sonic cutscene.

But still This blog isn't so much about how to unlock characters but rather who will be unlockable and by what clues they have to support it. Still if you have a neat idea for how a character can be unlocked, I won't mind.

 

[Jackal478]

You have a valid point there homeless, I have the same idea on the matter.

 

[Hydde]

But for example, what will happen if one of the characters that i need to use in story mode is an unlockable? Ill need to figure out how to unlock first and then continue the story? or the game will unlock it itself?.

 

[Homelessvagrant]

But for example, what will happen if one of the characters that i need to use in story mode is an unlockable? Ill need to figure out how to unlock first and then continue the story? or the game will unlock it itself?.

Think about this Hydde. If the game has alternate paths then it is possible that unlocking new characters opens the new paths. Remember the metal mario battle in melee. If you've unlocked luigi then he'll fight too right. Something along those lines can occur except you can free him or etc.

 

[Pyroloserkid]

I could see Subspace Emissary being the source of most unlockables, though.

Are you only saying that because that's the only mode we've seen?

 

[Darkurai]

I think the "unlock characters as you meet them" idea has a great amount of potential, especially if we get to see some kickass cutscenes introducing them.

*prays for a Sonic-Mario teamup cutscene, as it would be the most beautiful thing in gaming*

But I also think there will be other ways to unlock characters, through Classic mode and minigames, as per Melee.

I could see Subspace Emissary being the source of most unlockables, though.

Good god, this is the greatest post I've ever seen on these forums.

 

[2007]

@ above posters (Darkurai & JediNaruto):
that's be suave.

 

[MzNetta]

Next people branded characters with the sign below as unlockables

[*snip*]

but that was proven not the case, when the nice folks from smash blog enlightened us.

Explain, please.

 

[Areyigo]

Its a good supposition, but.... you forget the fact that somethings like the mario circuit stage can be just preliminary, so maybe at the end they decide to eliminate it

 

[Homelessvagrant]

Explain, please.

Well if you've ever read the smash blogs (which are now conveniently on this site) you must have read an article named "Around the world: Regional Variations and the Dojo"

what the article states is that in each language site the Danger Challenger Approaching sign is different, some even announcing the characters name in it. I'm not going to go to in depth into it (find it in the blog section, http://smashboards.com/blog/2007/08/18/regional-variations-and-the-dojo/#more-382 ) but to say the least the banners from other versions of the Dojo showed that sakurai was merely building up hype and that there was no conclusive proof that that meant they were unlockable. I believe Kirby king even stated that the banners on some of the other countries weren't even in line whith their unlockable banner from melee

 

[Homelessvagrant]

Its a good supposition, but.... you forget the fact that somethings like the mario circuit stage can be just preliminary, so maybe at the end they decide to eliminate it

Actually I didn't forget about something like that. Mario Circuit is already in it's advance stages of production. It is much more likely that crew would change the stage rather than discard it. so to answer that question it's possible but highly unprobable. And even if it has been rid of by sakurai why hasn't we seen the Metal Gear satge and Character. I mean if Sakurai is willing to show us other unlockable trinkets in the site then why not the third party character/stage. the fact is that unlockables are meant to be secrets that are...unlocked.

It can be easily assumed that during the Nintendo world trailer, the team simply hadn't developed the game enough to know the difference between what wa unlockable and what wasn't and rather just showed what they did have at the point.