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Unfair stages poll.

What's the most unfair stage listed?

  • Gamer

    Votes: 10 11.2%
  • 75 m

    Votes: 52 58.4%
  • Garden of Hope

    Votes: 6 6.7%
  • Wolly World

    Votes: 2 2.2%
  • PAC-LAND

    Votes: 24 27.0%
  • Wily Castle

    Votes: 17 19.1%
  • Orbital Gate Assault

    Votes: 27 30.3%

  • Total voters
    89

JehJehKeyblade

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I know there can be stages more unfair than these, but which one of these choices sticks out most to you?

If you aren't sure, make more than one vote.
 
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Trekkerjoe

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75m was my most hated stage in Brawl, and still is in Smash4. My second pick would have been Wily Castle due to the disruptiveness of Yellow Devil, but it doesn't even begin to compare to how annoying I find the everything in 75m.
75m: Impossible to fight on, annoying platforms/ladders/hazards, in terms of pure frustration nothing else compares.
 

Khao

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Of those, definitely Pac-Land.

Stage makes no sense whatsoever.

75m is just plain terrible, not unfair.

The others either just have major annoyances that are perfectly avoidable, or I are honestly not that bad so I don't care.
 
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David Wonn

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Ghey-mer by far is my most despised stage in this game. It is often unclear where the safe zones are when I'm in the air. It too often ruined my attempts at clearing All-Star on Hard with all characters. Thankfully that is no longer an issue since clearing all the challenges. Even in Solo Classic on 9.0, I'll go out of my way to fight 7 CPUs somewhere else than to face one or two on Ghey-mer, assuming I notice the stage beforehand.
 

Jdaster64

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The only one of those I'd call "unfair" is Orbital Gate Assault; it's the only one that I feel heavily favors characters with more mobility. Woolly World might fall under that category, I suppose. In either case, Pyrosphere and Gaur Plain are a ton more 'unfair' than anything on that list, IMO (although 75m is generally horrible).
 

AUS

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I was about to put down 75m just because of its carried over insanity from Brawl and likelihood you die by the stage than the actual fighter. However it might be just Salt because Wily's Castle could have been a good legal stage. The robot just ****s with your game so much and covers the whole stage, its just painful to play.
 

darkcat1

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I'd say 75 m is both. All those hazards are just... bewildering.
I just got the game yesterday so I can't say for SSBU but with brawl I got annoyed by how spread out everything is. This makes it hard to fight on but it is pretty historic...which is the only nice thing I can say. In the Donkey Kong arcade this is one of the easier levels to just run straight for the top(if you don't wana hop around trying to snag extra points). If I had to pick one of the four repeating levels to play on I'd go with the rivet board....
 

Take 5

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75m is just a nightmare...

Lots of accidental deaths in Woolly World, too.
 
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warriorman222

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Orbital Gate Assault isn't as bad as people are making it. Kalos is worse. But 75m is garbage, even when I'm playing for s***s and giggles, this stage is too absurd.
 

Raijinken

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Wooly World is completely fine (though the walkoff status is somewhat regrettable). Orbital Gate and 75M are definitely up there for being terrible, though.
 

Nerdicon

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75m is definitely the worst, but Omega Lylat Cruise is probably my second least favorite stage in the game. It's impossible for some of my mains to recover low on that stage!
 

warriorman222

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Orbital Gate is only bad because it's horrfyingly polarizing. Otherwise it's well above average for a stage that took a year to make.
Wooly World is Walk-off half the time and the transition can kill some people, other wise it's fine.

75m was made worse despite the tone-down, because the plat on the side was removed, making it impossible to fight on one platform.
 

Kikkipoptart12

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Pyorsphere is not up there so I picked 75m, I hate these two stages so much. Ridley is the worse stage boss in this game. He gets in the way too much and he's hard the defeat.
 

Tino

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They're called "stage hazards" for a reason, which makes them more fun and more interesting than without them. Though if I have to pick one, I would go with Woolly World not because it's "unfair" but because it's so boring.
 

Aguki90

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75 Mm is horrible.
And Pac-Land too.

But willy castle to me I disliked even more because FREAKING YELLOW DEVIL!?
Is the worst boss in the game, Even Ridley and Metal Face are 100% more fun and more intense.
Freaking Yellow Devil, Fu that guy.
 

Ze Diglett

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Ugh... Gamer, by a longshot. Getting randomly hit by the Mom in midair while you thought you were in the "safezone" is no fun at all, and getting barely knocked out of the safezone is even worse. It's like Norfair, but even more stupid. Not to mention, the stage itself is borderline random not only in terms of layout, but when and where the Mom shows up. Worse of all, it only has, what, TWO good tracks on it?
Orbital Gate Assault and 75m both get dishonorable mentions as well, the latter because STAGE HAZARDS EVERYWHERE WHY DID THIS STAGE RETURN AAAAGH, and the former because it's often unclear what's actually an element of the stage and that giant freaking explosion at the end.
 

ICXCM

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75m for 8 player smash counter pick 4lyfe.

Anything that moves horizontal is abysmal. Super Mario Bros. 3 World 1-4 bad memories. Just contention and anxiety everywhere.
 

CaptainAmerica

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Orbital Gate. How many times I've gotten hit by the explosion from that one ship, and then am just below the line of Arwings, so I can't recover. Any stage that has even a few frames worth of no-ground-at-all is not cool, especially since my strongest characters have sub-standard recoveries.

Yeah, it may have taken a year to make, but I can't shake the thought of "If you had made it less complicated, you would have ad extra time for other things..."
 

aethermaster

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Where the **** is Port Town Aero Dive? I know that stage was from Brawl but THAT STAGE CAN GO TO HELL. Every goddamn time I get that stage on All-Star I lose because even though I'm on a platform a car just so happens to jump and hit me.

Ridiculous stage. Bring back Mute City or Big Blue from Melee or SNES Mute City from 3DS but throw this stage in the trash and fire whoever worked on it. Yes I hate that stage that much.
 
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