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Troubles this noob is having

Butler_SSBM

Smash Rookie
Joined
Oct 27, 2015
Messages
2
I recently got into melee because of my friends. I can wavedash but i occasionally mess it up and full hop. I have been playing sm4sh for a while and I was trash. Now in melee, I am having a problem where I either can't do tech sometimes or I mess up an input (i.e. an attempted uptilt becomes a uair). I also have a problem doing what I have in my mind on the controller. Has anyone else had this problem and gotten past it? I think it might be a dexterity thing, but I thought I'd ask here before I tried delving into that. I main Marth if that gives any value to this post.
Thanks and sorry if this is a repeat post.
 

Sutekh

Smash Apprentice
Joined
Aug 11, 2015
Messages
142
You're definitely not the first person to have those types of problems. Input errors are very common at all levels of play (much less so the higher you go of course), but as you get more comfortable with the entry-level techniques, they'll become second nature and you'll have a whole new set of more difficult techniques to focus on. Just keep playing and those input errors will become less and less common.

As for the full-hopping issue when you're wavedashing, it's because you're trying to input your airdodge too early. If you airdodge right above the ground but don't wavedash, it's because your angle on the control stick wasn't diagonal enough. Just keep practicing, man!
 

Butler_SSBM

Smash Rookie
Joined
Oct 27, 2015
Messages
2
Alright. Thanks man. I just need to work on the basics. L canceling is a pain. I guess I just have to do it many many times to get a grip on it. I do have 20xx so I can practice with that, but it feels strange. I aim for the top in whatever I do, so I have my work cut out for me.
 

Sutekh

Smash Apprentice
Joined
Aug 11, 2015
Messages
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Just take it a step at a time, man. A big part of it is making sure you're developing good habits so you won't have to break bad habits in the future. For example, when l-canceling, you don't want to press the trigger down to the click, you just want to soft-press. This is so you won't accidentally rob yourself of the ability to tech when attempting to L-cancel a move. Same for shielding, unless you're trying to powershield (in which case you need to hard press). It's not universal, but I've personally found that pressing the trigger with the tip of my finger makes my l-cancels, techs, and wavedashes much more consistent than when using the pad of my finger. And finally, I would highly recommend getting in the habit of shielding with a different trigger than you wavedash with. This is something I wish I would have made a habit of when I first started playing, because it makes it a lot easier to wavedash out of shield. Just a few things to keep in mind while you're practicing!
 

pagedMov

Smash Apprentice
Joined
Jan 21, 2015
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168
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It takes a while to become mechanically proficient at Melee, just keep practicing and eventually you'll be able to pull off anything consistently
 

-ACE-

Gotem City Vigilante
Joined
Sep 25, 2007
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Location
The back country, GA
You might want to try to calm down, do your inputs slower and more consciously, then allow the speed to come gradually. You're hitting R/L during jumpsquat (before you are airborne) and the airdodge never happens. It happens to me too sometimes NOW after 10+ years. Don't get discouraged.
 

theargentinegreek

Smash Rookie
Joined
Jun 24, 2015
Messages
1
It's all about practicing, and doing so in an effective manner. Focus on tech and train in that in 15 minute bursts, that's something you'll hear a lot mostly because practicing tech for a long amount of time is stressful and if you aren't getting better very frustrating. Sometimes it's even good to just walk away for a bit, and come back with a fresh mind. I've been playing for about 3 months and now I can do it pretty consistently but I have my flubs every once in a while, it's just a part of the learning process.

Most importantly don't get discouraged, improvement is always right around the corner!
 
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