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Trouble Shffl'ing Falco's dAir..

Crooked Crow

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Title says it all.. I main Link, but also use Falco and even Fox sometimes (and almost all the other characters if I'm not playing seriously), but I can't seem to constantly shffl his dAir. Same thing with Fox's, but I think his is somewhat easier. I know I should watch the screen to see the moment their feet touch the ground, but that doesn't work.. Learning to do this seems really important since I want to at least learn to do some shine combos with Falco.
 

MrBitter

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I had trouble with this too...

When I was learning, I practiced by going into training mode and running the game at 3/4x speed. With everything being so much slower, it's much easier to see the "input window".

Once you can do it 100% of the time at 3/4x speed, move back to regular speed. You still won't be perfect, but you'll find that you have a much better feel for when to l-cancel.
 

B0mbe1c

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I had trouble with this too...

When I was learning, I practiced by going into training mode and running the game at 3/4x speed. With everything being so much slower, it's much easier to see the "input window".

Once you can do it 100% of the time at 3/4x speed, move back to regular speed. You still won't be perfect, but you'll find that you have a much better feel for when to l-cancel.
Yes, that would probably work best. I'd also practice SHFFL with FAlco since I think it's easier to SH with him IMO.
 

A-Laon

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Title says it all.. I main Link, but also use Falco and even Fox sometimes (and almost all the other characters if I'm not playing seriously), but I can't seem to constantly shffl his dAir. Same thing with Fox's, but I think his is somewhat easier. I know I should watch the screen to see the moment their feet touch the ground, but that doesn't work.. Learning to do this seems really important since I want to at least learn to do some shine combos with Falco.
I'm willing to bet that your trouble is coming from your familiarity with Link. Link's dair has a rediculously late L-cancel, and you're accustomed to that timing. Even Fox's is still later than most, which is probably why you're better with him. Falco's L-cancel timing for the dair is "normal," which is still much faster than Link or Fox. You simply need to learn to L-cancel sooner than you're used to. Just keep trying it, L-cancelling sooner and sooner until you eventually get it, and then keep it up until you're familiar with it. Once you have an idea of the timing, the rest will come naturally.

Also, for the record, I don't recommend going into training mode and slowing the speed down. This just teaches you a different timing and takes much longer. Just learn to do it at proper gamespeed; it shouldn't be too hard as long as you keep at it.
 

Doomgaze

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Okay

Here's what you want to do:

At the peak of your SH, try fast falling and immediately press C-down AND L/R at the same time.

This will make your down-air faster as compared doing it on the way up (during the SH).
And it'll be L-cancelled when opponent puts up his shield as well.
 

Sundown

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Here is how i do it, hope it helps:

I SH, and then i do C-down and inmediatly after i press down and L at exactly the same time... as in it is all one fluid motion: I press X (to SH), inmediatly after i do C-down, and inmediatly after i do DOWN+L (it is IMPORTANT to do Down and L at exactly the same time after the C-down)

It is also very important NOT to do C-Down, Down, and L all at the same time cuz it wont work, it is C down first then inmediatly after Down+L

Sry for being so repetitive, but thats the way i do it and it works like all the time, and i think the timing is really easy if u do it like that.

Hope it helps
 
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