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To all E-for-Allers

Unknownlight

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I'm not sure if this has been brought up before, I used the search function and didn't find anything. Anyways, a video was brought up a long time ago (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/41546.html?id=41546). At the end of the video you can see pika rolling of the platform edge without stopping. So for all E-for-Allers, is this actually in, and how does affect gameplay?

Thanks!:)
 

Talendime

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Ya dude like **** off... that **** is ****ng stupid..



I don't think I really get what's going on with the Pikachu thing. I mean, I didn't really notice anything special...?
 

Unknownlight

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In melee, if you rolled towards off a platform edge you would stop at the edge and not roll off it. But in this video, pikachu rolls off the edge without stopping. I'm asking, one, if this is really in (like if they have changed it to be more like melee since the video was made) and two, if this effects the game that much, like maybe it's a replacment to wavedashing off a platform.
 

Circus

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EPIC FAIL!
That's seriously the third time I've seen you post that today.

It's not witty or funny.

It wasn't even very witty or funny the first time ANYONE did it.

Stop making me hate you.

On topic: If the edge roll-off is in (I forget if it was in Gimpy's thread or not, but it seems like it would've been. . .) I think it'll be a really interesting new dynamic to the game. If it's not in, then no harm done.
 

Unknownlight

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Thank you, Circus. Finally.

I can't believe it took me all day for someone to post something on topic, all I'll got was "EPIC FAIL!"

Edit: I looked in Gimpy's thread, I can't find it.
 

Magnacor

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It was E4 All, not E for all. They were making a clever pun since it was E4. That wasn't on topic, but I felt it needed to be said.

the move is entitled hugging.
If I'm not mistaken, hugging is where you ran off the edge and snapped back. Rolling off the edge would be something, as yet, undiscovered.
 

Eltrotraw

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you know, I don't recall ever doing that at E4A.

I was playing as Yoshi most of the time, so that could be an issue. I just don't recall being able to roll of the edge.

...even if that were true, I doubt it'd hurt Yoshi's game. There's still hugging and the Yoshi instant-edgehog still works
 

Zauron

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I've been wondering about that since that video was first shown. I can't believe I forgot to add it to my questions list for E4A. But anyway, here's what we do know:

1) Rolling does not directly take you off a ledge, at least for "solid" platforms (i.e. the bottom of the stage where you can grab the edge). We know this because in the video where the translator guy is demo'ing the game, Samus rolls back toward the edge of the stage while waiting to use the Final Smash and does not roll off, even though they were right at the edge - it just stops the roll back like it does in Melee. But perhaps it is different on drop-through platforms - anyone seen anyone in a video trying to roll off the edge of a drop-through platform and it stopping them from moving past the edge of it?

2) This isn't a normal roll Pikachu does here - its a recovery roll (pressing a direction after landing on the ground when hurt). You can see this if you watch the video closely. Here's a clip of it slowed down:



Notice how Pikachu clearly lands on his back, then rolls back to his feet. It also appears the roll has actually ended before Pikachu hits the edge of the platform, HOWEVER, for some reason has continued backwards momentum after the dodge, complete with dust clouds, that carries Pikachu past the edge of the platform and off it. Very similar looking to a backwards Wavedash, which we know can't be done, but if this wasn't just a glitch, it would seem there is a way to carry over momentum after rolling to your feet in the recovery roll.

Perhaps this is related to the video we see with Sonic rolling back toward the edge (the second part of the demo video with the translater guy) and after the roll is over, he suddenly flies backwards a bit and grabs the edge. There may be some way to carry over momentum from rolls in general, or again, this could be an unrelated glitch.
 

Timat the Slayer

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It seems to me the dust cloud was actually stating that pikachu did, in fact, roll clear off the edge. Because if you notice, he isn't in free fall when he falls off the platform, so I think it's part of the recovery roll mechanics now.

If you remember, when you would light shield a hit from a platform in melee, and fall off, you would go into free fall (or at least it did every time I did it... ) so I'm thinking that it's just another part of the mechanics they added into Brawl.
 

Rx-

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I think it will be eaiser for characters to escape from being trapped on the platform now. hopefully hitstun wont cause problems this time around.
 
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