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Tips vs. Bowser?

Doc_Holiday

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I know this match is WAY WAY WAY in Sheiks favor but i am MMing a particularly good Bowser main who has a lot of practice against Sheiks and I don't know much about Bowser, or Sheik for that matter, so I was wondering, what are some things to exploit when you play against Bowser?
 

Shiri

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:yoshi: Stay lagless. Don't use moves that you don't have to.

Jab, grab, space forward tilt, needle, all the really really gay stuff.
 

NeighborhoodP

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chaingrab to death.

if you're ever close to him, just be gay and run away and resume your lagless aerials and well-spaced tilts.

chaingrab to death some more.
 

Mcscruff

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Sheik vs. Bowser has too be sheiks funnest matchup, tied only with sheik-link and sheik-ganon. just chaingrab then throw him off th ledge. He has such a ****ty recovery that one needle should do...
 

CmRoddy

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is this actually a topic in the shiek forum?

*asplodes*
oh i know. i think it's totally dumb that people are actually giving and asking for advice on using Sheik against Bowser. no disrespect towards Bowser, but if people have to ask about how to beat Bowser, than either the Sheik player really sucks or the Bowser is just amazing, like Gimpyfish :D

but i have to ask Gimpyfish, do you have problems with Sheiks? or do you just run through them?
 

SPAWN

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I think he deserves a cookie instead. Doc Holiday, what Boozercute did you lose to?

Against bowser... one move against him sets up for a combo basically. This boozer musta been pretty ****ing amazing...aka Gimpy.
 

residentevilrulz

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Why do you people resort to chaingrabbing to win? All it does is prove that you like to be cheap. And for me to say cheap.. is really something. I say it's cheap because there is absolutely no way for Bowser to get out of it. I'm a Bowser main, and any Sheik I've played refuses to chaingrab, thankfully. It's like.. I just can't believe so many of you told him to resort to that to win.
 

Rage.

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Why do you people resort to chaingrabbing to win? All it does is prove that you like to be cheap. And for me to say cheap.. is really something. I say it's cheap because there is absolutely no way for Bowser to get out of it. I'm a Bowser main, and any Sheik I've played refuses to chaingrab, thankfully. It's like.. I just can't believe so many of you told him to resort to that to win.
I cant tell if hes seriouse are not.

Doc Holiday did you lost to Kevins Bowser?
thats fine
at least he didnt unleash his Fox
that thing is a beast
 

Gimpyfish62

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i cant believe you are dumb enough to play sheik and consider chaingrabbing cheap.

you play sheik.

and you are anti-cheap.

hmmm... i guess no ftilt into fair for you, or combo of any kind, meaning you are the worst sheik player in the universe.
 

FrozenRoy

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Why do you people resort to chaingrabbing to win? All it does is prove that you like to be cheap. And for me to say cheap.. is really something. I say it's cheap because there is absolutely no way for Bowser to get out of it. I'm a Bowser main, and any Sheik I've played refuses to chaingrab, thankfully. It's like.. I just can't believe so many of you told him to resort to that to win.
You know whats REALLY hard to believe?

n00bs still think Shiek chaingrabs are cheap.
 

$ick

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Lol if Sheik's combos are cheap, then wtf would you call Falcos combos? And lol @ pretty much all of Gimpy's posts. I hope we get to play at OC3 dude. :)
 

BigRick

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Why do you people resort to chaingrabbing to win? All it does is prove that you like to be cheap. And for me to say cheap.. is really something. I say it's cheap because there is absolutely no way for Bowser to get out of it. I'm a Bowser main, and any Sheik I've played refuses to chaingrab, thankfully. It's like.. I just can't believe so many of you told him to resort to that to win.
^^Well guys, don't forget about the fact that he lives in Raccoon city...
 

residentevilrulz

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Falco's combos aren't cheap because they take skill. You actually have to try to do them. Gimpy.. was your post directed at me or the sheik player? You made it sound like I used sheik if it was directed at me. And frozenroy.. I don't want to hear it. If it was hard to chaingrab or required any level of skill what so ever, I wouldn't call it cheap. And I'm not sure what the "Raccoon City" comment was for.. It's from Resident Evil if you didn't know that. I don't mean to offend anyone here or anything. I just think that a skilled player would like to use a variety of moves as opposed to something my grandmother could do (chaingrabbing with Sheik). Don't get me wrong, I've nothing against Sheik or Sheik players. I just didn't think people actually wanted to chaingrab in serious match ups ^^
 

Zane Fleia

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O.O

*Bursts out laughing, falls off chair and hits the floor. Rolls over, still laughing, crying in laughter. Goes down to a mere gigglefit about three minutes later.* (Yes, that all happened.)

Okay, okay, okay... What is this topic doing here? Honestly? This is a joke topic, right?

So, how did the match go? Was it close? You didn't chaingrab enough, by the way.
 

Silver Sytos

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I need help I cant chaingrab :(

If i dthrow they di away and down, and theres no way after the lag of the throw I can run and still catch them before they hit the ground and can tech.

Help please.
 

Prac352

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Falco's combos aren't cheap because they take skill. You actually have to try to do them. Gimpy.. was your post directed at me or the sheik player? You made it sound like I used sheik if it was directed at me. And frozenroy.. I don't want to hear it. If it was hard to chaingrab or required any level of skill what so ever, I wouldn't call it cheap. And I'm not sure what the "Raccoon City" comment was for.. It's from Resident Evil if you didn't know that. I don't mean to offend anyone here or anything. I just think that a skilled player would like to use a variety of moves as opposed to something my grandmother could do (chaingrabbing with Sheik). Don't get me wrong, I've nothing against Sheik or Sheik players. I just didn't think people actually wanted to chaingrab in serious match ups ^^
Paraphrased: "Waaaaaaaaaah chaingrabs suck!!!11shift+one"

You know what else takes no skill? Pressing up b as bowser, you shouldn't ever use that move, it's cheap. Thankfully all of my friends that play bowser are idiots and don't use it.

stfu nub
 

KevinM

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Quick Lemme End the Thread for you..

3-2-1 GO

Z=Grab
Down
Repeat

Occasionally this might seem like a stretch but throw in a jab...

As for edgeguarding, this can get tricky on us..

B
or
Forward Aerial
Or
Chain
Or
Off the Stage B-air
 

TheReflexWonder

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Paraphrased: "Waaaaaaaaaah chaingrabs suck!!!11shift+one"

You know what else takes no skill? Pressing up b as bowser, you shouldn't ever use that move, it's cheap. Thankfully all of my friends that play bowser are idiots and don't use it.

stfu nub
It -is- cheap. That's why I only use great moves like Flame Breath and Bowser Bomb against you. And your copy is Ver. 1.1, which make Flame Breath even more godly.
 

residentevilrulz

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Whatever, I'm done with this thread. I don't even know what to say to any of you. I think something wrong must have happened to you in your infant years for those of you who would consider chaingrabbing non-cheap. As far as Bowser's up-B being cheap... that's absurd. It's one of the few good things he has going for him against a fast character.
 

darE::to::Dream

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Why would you even need to chaingrab? Everything Sheik does combos into each other when it's up against Bowser. Chaingrabbing is the merciful way, because at least then they aren't stringing together completely ridiculous chains of moves that should never hit but do anyway because it's Bowser.
 

Nike.

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I figured this thread would entertain me in some way. And then the Bowser STILL won?!?


LMAOROFLololololo
 

Prac352

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Whatever, I'm done with this thread. I don't even know what to say to any of you. I think something wrong must have happened to you in your infant years for those of you who would consider chaingrabbing non-cheap. As far as Bowser's up-B being cheap... that's absurd. It's one of the few good things he has going for him against a fast character.
I hope you intentionally ignored the dripping sarcasm in my post.

Why would you handicap yourself by not using something that helps you to win? You up-b with Bowser, you chaingrab with Sheik.
 

KevinM

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Whatever, I'm done with this thread. I don't even know what to say to any of you. I think something wrong must have happened to you in your infant years for those of you who would consider chaingrabbing non-cheap. As far as Bowser's up-B being cheap... that's absurd. It's one of the few good things he has going for him against a fast character.



That is really all i have to see to that whole **** load of ignorance you just spit out your mouth
 

Rapid_Assassin

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Quick, let me give you my guide on how to be less cheap with Sheik:

Step 1: Press down b to turn back into Zelda
Step 2: Don't press down b again for the rest of the match.

If you think Zelda is too cheap for you, don't use her f-air or b-air. If she's still too cheap, don't use the cstick either, because we all know that the C in cstick stands for cheap.
 
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