Tips on Samus?

[SilentFox12345]

Yeah, I know its Samus, but I'm not exactly a pro so....yeah.

Basically, my main smash m8 has played me so much that his mindgames are stronger than my technical skill and character advantage. What I do is I try and drillshine, but most of the time it just gets shielded and he either does the screw attack or cc-smash. And he's pretty good at hindering my approach by sending a wall of missiles straight at me. So, do you guys have any tips?

Also, I do doubles with him, so do you have any tips for that too? What we do know is just have me do all the fighting while he sends in projectiles and saves up all our stocks.

Sorry I don't have any videos.

 

[Ryan-K]

Laser camp him.

 

[Eggm]

Yeah.. I have the same problem my crewmate uses samus and out mindgames my fox.. you really just have to play REALLY gay to beat samus.. laser camp as much as possible reflect missles if hes really far from you using platforms to shoot missles fast and you get overwhelemd just jump around and avoid samus even if your putting your full effort into avoiding her, make her come to you is the biggest thing, because there really is NO safe way to approach samus at best you run in wait for a dodge in up smash or grab, but thats so risky if she doesn't dodge so its a 50% shot.. and if you lose the coin toss she can get you off the stage and potientially death edge guard you.. so yeah.. do your very best on making samus approach you.

 

[Oskurito]

It's not too hard to aproach.
If she keeps spaming projectiles just shine them. Alternate your defensive options, for example you can jump to avoid the missile, you can dodge it, shine it ,punch it or pop up your shield also you can power shield it(but that's hard). Be sure to make perfect shuffles(into shines) if she's CC too much, If you're still having trouble with her CC game a shuffled uair will put and end to her CC gayness but most of the times samus will use Up B out of the shield so that's annoying because you simply cannot do a **** to her plus grabs don't work too much. So you've got to be gay and wait for her to come to you, if you're good you should know that laser camping owns any projectile spammer. Apart from that don't use drillshines repetitions are easy to DI away, is better to use the nair to shine combo. This combo works nice: Nair>up tilt >uair (but you must catch her off guard of course)

 

[SilentFox12345]

Ok, thanks, that will help when I fight against him. Just two more things:
When I laser camp, do you guys think its necessary that I learn the SHDL? I tried a lot of times but my fingers aren't fast enough . Any tips?
And any advice for doubles w/ Samus would be appreciated.

Thanks a lot for your help guys.

 

[Oskurito]

Ok, thanks, that will help when I fight against him. Just two more things:
When I laser camp, do you guys think its necessary that I learn the SHDL? I tried a lot of times but my fingers aren't fast enough . Any tips?
And any advice for doubles w/ Samus would be appreciated.

Thanks a lot for your help guys.

Only with targets that can be hitted with SHDL (small targets like pichu wont be hit). I SHDL with the control stick it's easier because you have a lot of time to input B+B as soon as you leave the ground

 

[SilentFox12345]

Control stick seems to work, its a bit harder to sh, but I'll get the hang of it. Thanks.

And any tips on doubles w/ Samus? What strategy should I be following?

 

[Oskurito]

Control stick seems to work, its a bit harder to sh, but I'll get the hang of it. Thanks.

And any tips on doubles w/ Samus? What strategy should I be following?

Waveshine combos (using just shine) works nice because you've got to kill your opponent before his or her team mate goes to help him(is faster) Samus is a good partner because she can survive a lot and knock back a lot also, so protect her to let her projectile spam (if it's a big stage) and don't play stupidly agressive just because you think that samus will be your life bank, remember that you should try to survive as most as possible (be gay and spam smashes or any high knock back attack, lasers also). And that's all, my team experience is very poor though

 

[SCOTU]

If you shffl into a samus' sheild, and you always shine afterwards, they'll screw you, if this becomes a pattern try grabbing instead of shining (ie shffld nair>grab). You could atempt to keep them in their sheild by multishining, but i usually never get more than a few shines off and i've never (yet) broken a sheild w/ it.

 

[SilentFox12345]

I've been thinking. Maybe a shffled dair followed by a wd back to mind game him into screwing then uair (which is like Samus's bane). What do you guys say?

Oh yeah, and last poster, when you say keep shining, do you mean double shine, or shine-wd down-shine.....just wondering.

 

[Elen]

He meant double shining ^^ Multi-shining and double-shining are in fact one of the same ;-)

 

[Oskurito]

I've been thinking. Maybe a shffled dair followed by a wd back to mind game him into screwing then uair (which is like Samus's bane). What do you guys say?

That will be good, just keep in mind it wont work always. (It's just a mindgame)

 

[SilentFox12345]

Yeah, can't wait to fight him! I'll tell you guys about it later.

 

[Oskurito]

Yeah, can't wait to fight him! I'll tell you guys about it later.

OK, Good luck in your fight

 

[Col Bol]

Only with targets that can be hitted with SHDL (small targets like pichu wont be hit). I SHDL with the control stick it's easier because you have a lot of time to input B+B as soon as you leave the ground

Lol...hitted...

 

[Oskurito]

Lol...hitted...

Oops sorry about my english... I'm from Peru

 

[Hylian]

Do not shine Samus's missles...ever.

 

[Oskurito]

Do not shine Samus's missles...ever.

It can work as a mind game (sometimes). What about punching her missles?

 

[Hylian]

You should not shine her missles...they will create hitlag on your shine and you will eat a dair into an uair or sex kick or bair...

 

[technomancer]

As a rule in general that's true, but if you reflect MC's on a plaform you can almost always JC your shine before Samus eats you up and go for a punishment aerial.

Disclaimer: The above strategy will never win you any games vs. Samus.

 

[Oskurito]

Yes but I think you ignored me in one of my ideas. Fox can stop samus missiles with well timed jabs.

 

[Wilhelmsan]

You should not shine her missles...they will create hitlag on your shine and you will eat a dair into an uair or sex kick or bair...

I recall at least one instance in the few matches we have played that I hit you with a reflected missile.

Besides. You could always destroy the missiles with shine...

 

[Oskurito]

Obviously I didn't mean to reflect it when the samus is close to you, you will get punished for it obviously, but there's no way of her punishing you if you are at the other side of the stage(unless she SW or something ).

The furthest the safest.

 

[REDRAGON]

LOL poor SilentFox....

I AM his friend he plays! Now i know all his tips...lol
He is a great Fox though. Has GREAT tech skills. Gosh that shine is SOO annoyin'. And thoses up-smashes and Up-air kill me at like 80% or lower. good times...

 

[Shwn]

Basically Samus hates UP. Do that stuff.....

 

[Oskurito]

Basically Samus hates UP. Do that stuff.....

Except Up throw

 

[Hylian]

I recall at least one instance in the few matches we have played that I hit you with a reflected missile.

Besides. You could always destroy the missiles with shine...

Yeah...but how many of those matchs against my samus did you win? 3-5? out of what? 50? XD. <3 anyways.

 

[Shwn]

Except Up throw

Only low damage.

 

[Oskurito]

Only low damage.

Yeah the Up throw> uair combo works at 0%~8%

 

[Hylian]

Yeah the Up throw> uair combo works at 0%~8%

It doesn't work at any damage if you duel stick DI away from fox and bomb when the uair gets to you....

 

[Shwn]

Done Deal.

 

[Oskurito]

It doesn't work at any damage if you duel stick DI away from fox and bomb when the uair gets to you....

It works if they don't DI =P

 

[FastFox]

Shawn's got the best Canadian Samus. Listen to him.

 

[JFox]

It doesn't work at any damage if you duel stick DI away from fox and bomb when the uair gets to you....

Smash DI does nothing against throws. And since the C-stick is ASDI(auto smash DI) that means that the "duel stick DI" or using the C-stick to help DI further has literally no effect.

Also jumping would be faster than a bomb since the bomb as start up frames.



Finish by landing on samus with full jumped Uair. Seriously, its the most godly and easy way to KO. Also Usmash out of shield, especially if she is dumb and Nair's your shield.

Edit: A lot of Samus' love when you shield the missile. Its a free grab oppurtunity. They just shoot and run at you with a grab, and the hitlag on your shield keeps you trapped. So its usually better to just jump.

 

[Hylian]

Smash DI does nothing against throws. And since the C-stick is ASDI(auto smash DI) that means that the "duel stick DI" or using the C-stick to help DI further has literally no effect.

Also jumping would be faster than a bomb since the bomb as start up frames.



Finish by landing on samus with full jumped Uair. Seriously, its the most godly and easy way to KO. Also Usmash out of shield, especially if she is dumb and Nair's your shield.

Edit: A lot of Samus' love when you shield the missile. Its a free grab oppurtunity. They just shoot and run at you with a grab, and the hitlag on your shield keeps you trapped. So its usually better to just jump.

I mean smash DI the first hit of the Uair not the throw...

 

[Oskurito]

Shawn's got the best Canadian Samus. Listen to him.

:O

I mean smash DI the first hit of the Uair not the throw...

In that case any character can get out of the combo