tips on my fox

[no. 1 smash daddy]

I need some tips on my fox, if there´s anything I need to improve, I would apreciate your comment, speacially on falco, I need more tips on him than anything, so check this thread first down below.

http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=4055644#post4055644

 

[theONEjanitor]

keep in mind that upthrow to upsmash works on falco at like every percentage except very high ones.

shffled nair is excellent, but you need to switch it up. that is literally the only moves you used to approach. well in the two vs. falco vids i watched...dair ito waveshine is much safer, your nairs got shield grabbed and crouch-cancelled a few times. just mix it up, use nairs when you get a chance. also try jumping past them and bairing, also try dairs.
in a laser fight with falco, falco wins. you're pegging him for 1 damage a piece, meanwhile getting hit with the same amount of lasers, except his are taking 3-4 damage...fox vs. falco can't be a camp match, because falco wins that.
You roll too often. and in the same situations. for example, if you miss a shffled nair, you almost always roll back. that gets predictable.
other than that, i think you just need more control over your character. there were times where you did moves that just made no sense, and i can only assume they were mistakes. like doing up-b's randomly or there was one time where your opponent was wide open and you jumped right over his head.
your fox is pretty fast though, i can see you getting pretty good.

 

[no. 1 smash daddy]

keep in mind that upthrow to upsmash works on falco at like every percentage except very high ones.

shffled nair is excellent, but you need to switch it up. that is literally the only moves you used to approach. well in the two vs. falco vids i watched...dair ito waveshine is much safer, your nairs got shield grabbed and crouch-cancelled a few times. just mix it up, use nairs when you get a chance. also try jumping past them and bairing, also try dairs.
in a laser fight with falco, falco wins. you're pegging him for 1 damage a piece, meanwhile getting hit with the same amount of lasers, except his are taking 3-4 damage...fox vs. falco can't be a camp match, because falco wins that.
You roll too often. and in the same situations. for example, if you miss a shffled nair, you almost always roll back. that gets predictable.
other than that, i think you just need more control over your character. there were times where you did moves that just made no sense, and i can only assume they were mistakes. like doing up-b's randomly or there was one time where your opponent was wide open and you jumped right over his head.
your fox is pretty fast though, i can see you getting pretty good.

thank you...I needed a tip like this, I don´t play often with good people, that´s why, when you said I need control over my character, it´s true, cause I lose control a little bit when I play someone that knows how to play with advanced techs, that´s something I need to work on.

everything else is good too, I apreciate your comment, I´ll keep in mind the dair, I really did miss that.

one last thing and hope you answer...I tried grabbing falco, only that this dude knew that I was gonna chain throw him I wouldn´t let me grab him, do you have any tips on getting easy grabs? I tried shining him to the floor and techchasing him with a JC grab, only that he dodge there and shine me into a combo, I used rolls a lot cause it did work to get away, well I hope you reply back.

thanx...

 

[theONEjanitor]

hey sorry for the late response.
as for grabbing, your gonna have to be a little quicker with you tech chase. there is a short window of opportunity after a tech where the opponent is vulnerable.
if not that, since you know he will dodge, just wait for him to dodge and then grab him.
also shield grabbing is the classic way to get grabs if you have the opportunity.
also with fox, you can simply shffl a dair, then grab. and against heavier characters you can even better, shffl dair, waveshine, grab. thats another benefit of using the dair, it doesn't ever knock any character down, so you can immediately grab or shine afterward. and if you get the timing down, you can dair a shield, and shine before they can shield grab you. falco can do that too.
rolls may work on the one guy, but if he's any good, eventuall he'll figure it out, and if you ever play other people who are good they'll figure it out immediately..

 

[Dark Hart]

I watched the match you had on FD.
You have a really nice Fox, but you could work on a few things.
The first is approaches. One of the reasons you lost that match was because you were extremely predictable and you're opponent capitalized on it. All I saw you do was either grab or shffl a nair. It seemed to work at first: you had a really nice combo going in the beginning. Then you made a minor mistake, Falco capitalized, and he ended up landing a zero to death combo on you. Your second life was the same thing: you missed a few openings and got punished for it.
*A side note* Don't ever go directly under a Falco that has just jumped in the air. You will lose control and you have to go on the defensive, which is exactly what a Falco player wants.
Try to mind-game him into a combo rather than repeatedly trying to grab. You need to be able to change your game up. Instead of a nair go for a dair or a bair. When your near the edge, throw him off of it and edge-guard him to death. Pull out a shine-spike, own-smash if he tries to sweetspot the ledge, be creative. Don't be afraid to go in and try to up-smash or shine your opponent.
Also, work on your shine game. Fox/Falco and Fox dittos are normally controlled by the shine. Low percent kills are vital to Fox's game because he has the greatest capability of landing one.

I hope this helps some.

 

[SwiftBass]

falco Dthrow doesnt work.

smash DI down and away and grab it works everytime. I've never gotten Dthrown > anything by any falco. I guarantee it works if u react fast enough

too aggressive vs falco. falco beats u in the middle of the stage and on many ocassions on the ground. trick him into bringing his offense to the edge. step ur DD game up.

thats all, I hope that was helpful.