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Tips for waveshining?

Circle_Breaker

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First you shine, then you do a wavedash. Don't overthink it - same advice for wavedash OoS. Trying to do it too fast and messing up the timing is usually the problem.
 

Bluelink12

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Do you need to put the analog stick back in the center from the down position after the shine and then moving it to the bottom left/right to waveshine? I feel like I have more success when I do this rather than going from down to down and left/right.
 

harMoNiC

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Do you need to put the analog stick back in the center from the down position after the shine and then moving it to the bottom left/right to waveshine? I feel like I have more success when I do this rather than going from down to down and left/right.
Returning the control stick back to neutral provides no functional advantage. It's not necessary to do so in order to waveshine.

You can just control stick down, B, jump, roll the control stick to wavedash angle, air dodge.
 

Bluelink12

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I found that some people in other threads also reset the control stick back to neutral. I dunno, it feels easier to do longer or even perfect waveshines. Also, I found that waiting ever so slightly to cancel the shine gives me better success than immediately jump canceling it into a waveshine.
 

harMoNiC

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I found that some people in other threads also reset the control stick back to neutral. I dunno, it feels easier to do longer or even perfect waveshines. Also, I found that waiting ever so slightly to cancel the shine gives me better success than immediately jump canceling it into a waveshine.
You have to pause slightly before you JC the shine — it's not ASAP. With hitlag, you must wait 6 frames before inputting the jump cancel or it will fail.

You are almost certainly inputting the jump too quickly. That's probably what is happening and may also be related to why resetting to neutral is more successful for you (it takes longer to reset to neutral->WD than to circle directly into the WD).
 
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Bluelink12

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Thanks for the tips! yea, I've figured out that waiting slightly helps to JC into a wavedash rather than messing up and doing a shine turnaround
 
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