Tips for FoxTrot Cancel on Ness?

[breezytooez]

I have recently been trying to add foxtrot cancel (video link if you are unaware: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ppw-igC6Uog) into my gameplay and despite being able to do it on other characters such as lucina I just can't seem to be able to do it with Ness, my main. Any tips for me from Ness mains out there that can do it? Thanks.

 

[SirShadows]

I barely post anywhere but noticed this thread as I learned how to Fox-trot cancel from the same vid and also main Ness. Keitaro and False didn't really show how Ness trots but his timing is a bit more strict than other characters and delayed at the matter... You just have to wait a bit more between cancels... Here's a vid of me doing some Fox-trot cancels while in game and applying it effectively: http://youtu.be/Fr-BtJJV-pg (At 26 second mark)

Good luck (eventually it'll be muscle memory)

 

[XCounter]

I'm not very good at it with Ness, either. It's quite tough since his timing is more strict than a character like Captain Falcon. My only advice would be to look out for the visual cue when Ness's dash is about to end (his feet are almost flat and his hands lower begin to his sides), and then input the turnaround. It feels pretty delayed.

If you want to see a competitive player make use of it, watch some videos of Nakat. He looks like he's taking advantage of it more than any other Ness main.

 

[SirShadows]

Definitely... If you're gonna learn how to Fox-trot cancel from anyone its the Leap of Faith crew X)

#Onettboyz

 

[PeterCat12]

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I'm not very good at it with Ness, either. It's quite tough since his timing is more strict than a character like Captain Falcon. My only advice would be to look out for the visual cue when Ness's dash is about to end (his feet are almost flat and his hands lower begin to his sides), and then input the turnaround. It feels pretty delayed.

By "turnaround" you mean dash in the direction already traveling and flick backwards (two inputs) or just flick the opposite direction (one input?)

 

[SirShadows]

By "turnaround" you mean dash in the direction already traveling and flick backwards (two inputs) or just flick the opposite direction (one input?)

Dash and Flick Backwards (2 inputs)... If it were one [input] it would be foxtrotting... Not foxtrot canceling (difference is canceling makes the gap shorter in distance, allowing you to act faster)

 

[PeterCat12]

Thanks. I think I'm fox trotting correctly but everytime I flip in the opposite direction (2nd input) ness' feet screech. I assume I'm not flipping fast enough after the first input?

 

[SirShadows]

Thanks. I think I'm fox trotting correctly but everytime I flip in the opposite direction (2nd input) ness' feet screech. I assume I'm not flipping fast enough after the first input?

Either you're not flipping quick enough or you tried to turn after the fox trot window was open and started running (timing is off)

 

[PeterCat12]

Either your not flipping quick enough or you tried to turn after the fox trot window was open and started running (timing is off)

Really appreciate your responses. Thanks so much! Going to start practicing this before work.

 

[Lochy]

I think I remember a falcon main making a thread with audio cues to help foxtrot dance.

EDIT: Here it is! http://smashboards.com/threads/audio-aid-for-mastering-falcons-dance-trot-rhythm.407363/

 

[Earthboundy]

I'm in the same camp. I can do it with Falcon, Lucina, Rosa, Mac, and Roy but Ness just seems impossible. :/

 

[Asa]

Just gotta get used to his dash animation , practice

 

[SirShadows]

It's a bit more delayed than Falcon's or Lucina's... He won't instantly turn around like they do... He has a bigger distance gap between trot cancels

 

[Lochy]

Every character's dash is different. Just watch the animation of the dash and that should help you

 

[SirShadows]

Brought myself to make a video showing off Ness's Foxtrot without fighting/in plain sight. Also shows off his Perfect Pivot if anyone is interested.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv2RHLTbKXg