Timed Attacks - SMRPG ?

[fr0st2k]

I was rewatching the trailers. In he original trailer, link does his down-a on top of mario. When he hits, you hear a "Ching" and see a light appear.

This made me start thinking about timed attacks. Then i thought of Geno's chances of becoming a contender, and how SMRPG had the same system.

Timed Attacks :

For example:
Links Down - A.

As you are falling, you essentially have no more control of your character. He is doing his move, and you cant get out of it. However, if you hit someone, and at the exact right time you click "a" again, you would do extra damage and another type of hit( a spike or a bigger knockback ).


I dunno, watch it again and tell me what you think.

 

[Drunken_Dragon]

another term would be "just frame". i love the use and practice of which, i would love to see just frames in brawl. wither they add extra hits, or just more damage or effects, anything would be cool.

 

[Impp]

That'd be interesting. It'd be a new thing that'd separate casual from competitive play.

 

[SSJ4Kazuki]

I've been able to draw something between this and seemingly "L canceling off your opponents".

I think a tap of L or R should increase the strength of the attack.

 

[Dylan_Tnga]

Timed attacks? yeah.. no. Sweetspotting is the art of melee, not pressing a button when you hit your opponent, that would be too easy.

 

[fr0st2k]

Timed attacks? yeah.. no. Sweetspotting is the art of melee, not pressing a button when you hit your opponent, that would be too easy.

ok mr no imagination .

wouldnt it be possible to have sweet spots AND timed attacks... lol @ youre lack of brainpower

 

[Adi]

It would be pretty cool, maybe a bit hard to do online because of the frame lag.

 

[Mosk]

No thanks, but nice idea to whoever suggested L-Cancelling off opponents.

DMC might be a completely different game but when you mastered jumping on your enemies whether to cancel and repeat your attack or evade another enemies attack added a heart pulsing rush element to all the action.

Although I'm more for it's use as another jump and not so much for attack cancelling.
**** it'd be fun in team matches to step on your competitions heads to recover, hell yes, I'm for another type of jump or teching off your enemies faces.

 

[Cisne]

so everytime i hit u , i tap A/B for more damage/hits ? think about what would do some moves with that...

Dylan is right , sweetpot ur atack to make it stronger , tapping the buttom would make it too easy

I dont like this idea , dont make a buttom mashing madness of ssbb

 

[fr0st2k]

so everytime i hit u , i tap A/B for more damage/hits ? think about what would do some moves with that...

Dylan is right , sweetpot ur atack to make it stronger , tapping the buttom would make it too easy

I dont like this idea , dont make a buttom mashing madness of ssbb

i actually did think about "what would do some moves with that"

in case youre mistaken, i didnt mean "add this to melee". This would be for brawl, and since a new idea would be implementing, gameplay(damage, knockback distance) would be built around said idea.

...sigh..

 

[Cisne]

i said ssbb O_o

i still think that sweetpot system is better.

 

[red stone]

anything that does extra damage is a bad idea.

 

[SirKibbleX]

Now we just add tension bar and BURST and it will really rock!

 

[SirKibbleX]

Also, you guys probably don't understand what he means if you've never played Super Mario RPG. Basically it was an RPG style game where you imput a command, but if you 'timed' your attack and hit 'A' again during a certain part of the attack (not shown onscreen DDR style or anything, you just havve to guess), then you would do extra damage and the attack animation would be slightly extended.

What he means is that if you were to 'time' an attack, it might tack on 1 more hit and do slightly more damage, but that tacked-on hit could not be chained off of, just like the existing system is right now in Melee(unless you used a burst or force roman cancel... rofl I'm having too much fun).

Also, I like your idea of being able to tech/rejump/walljump(?) off your opponent, I think that would be aweomse see people jump into someone, then do an aerial, and if they shielded or took the hit lightly, then you could push back up and off them and double'jump back in towards to re-hit em with an aerial.

Anyways, nice idea, but I'm not sure everyone understands SMRPG terms very well.

 

[ph00tbag]

I like the idea of a just frame attack. It would also add another level to character design, such that a slow character could have very powerful just frames.

Moreso, though, I like the idea of using one's opponents as part of the environment. Particularly jumping off one's opponent in midair. They could even add in Newton's third law to make it part of spacing.

 

[ZeroX982]

Hypothetically speaking, pressing a button at the right time could cause three different results...

1) Extra Damage
2) An extra hit (as in a preset "follow up" attack just for that situation)
3) Cancel out the lag and open up room for an attack you choose

Looking at those three possible outcomes, I don't like the idea too much. It works for RPGs, (SMRPG, Legend of Dragoon) but for a game that's as fast paced as smash, it just looks like it might get in the way (that's assuming that brawl doesn't get slowed down too much)..

 

[Deleted member]

I've been thinking of some ideas like this. Yes, Geno coudl work well in this.

Simple combos would be so easy to implement, for example another combo hit with a weapon (see my Hector moveset).