There might be a use for grounded footstool jumping...

[Delvro]

So I like using SH dars to dj rising nairs, especially against shield-grabbers. But one day I had an idea... what if instead of a spaced rising nair, just do a shorthop-footstool buffered to rising nair instead?

So I did some testing with footstool nairs and I found out it might actually be useful. One of the interesting things about a footstool is that your character will always footstool the opponent in the exact same spot. That means if a character can be footstool-rising nair'ed, then they can ALWAYS be footstool rising-nair'ed, and you don't have to worry about spacing the footstool. Also I found that the slope of the ground of the footstoolee seems to have little to no effect on footstool-rising nairs.

This seems like a nice mix-up, ESPECIALLY against shield-grabbers. I've been trying it in matches, and it works pretty well. It's great when they expect a typical DNair... AND... you keep your second jump when you short hop a footstool nair... however people usually THINK you've used your second jump... great for mindgames

One note, when the opponent shields a footstool, you still get the jump effect but the opponent suffers no adverse affect from a footstool. You can never connect a rising nair from a footstool

Anyway, I tested this on every character in the roster. Here's who a footstool jump will work on:
G+W
Dedede
Marth
Wario
Ice Climbers (both)
Sonic
Toon Link
Luigi
Sheik
Fox
Yoshi
Mario

also, two oddballs:
Link (only facing opposite directions)
Samus (only facing same direction)

The fact that you can do it to shield-grab happy Ice Climbers is amazing, and it's the perfect way to protect yourself from a stupid infinite grab lock while approaching~~

Also, a note... just like short hops and full jumps, you can do short footstools and high footstools. Rising nairs won't connect with a high footstool so you have to lightly tap the jump button

 

[hippiedude92]

The only use i find is gimping ppl thats about it LOL or at least thats how i die. Not trying to flame ur thread but doesnt Luigi jump too high giving enough time for ur oppenent to react?

 

[Delvro]

The only use i find is gimping ppl thats about it LOL or at least thats how i die. Not trying to flame ur thread but doesnt Luigi jump too high giving enough time for ur oppenent to react?

no, you can short hop a footstool by pressing the jump button lightly like a normal short hop... no joke... then you can hit them with a rising nair before they can shield it

BTW I'm talking about grounded footstool not aerial footstool... I've been using it as a variation of DNair that can't be shield grabbed

It's been working decently in friendlies against campy people

 

[ALiAsVee]

He'll rise with the opponent, I find the hitstun to last shorter than the ending lag of the move sometimes though, that's Brawl for you.

I suppose at killing percents why not, but floaty luigi seems easy pickins for the worst shield grab offenders, and you don't help yourself by jumping in the air.

Ish viable in the end however, you basically have to roll your thumb from jump to A to make it work FYI to peeps who don't do this.