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The PREDICTABLE Roster

ßruK

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Ok. Considering ALL the info gathered in the whole Community, this is by far the most PREDICTABLE Roster (Based on Sakurai's Poll, Popularity in general and Smash Bros Gameplay-likelyness).


MARIO SERIES

Mario
Luigi
Bowser
Peach
Geno

YOSHI SERIES

Yoshi

WARIOWARE SERIES

Wario

DONKEY KONG SERIES

DK
Diddy

LEGEND OF ZELDA SERIES

Link
Zelda/Sheik
Ganondorf
WW Link

POKÉMON SERIES

Pikachu
Pokémon Trainer
Jigglypuff
Mewtwo

RETRO SERIES

Pit
Ice Climbers
G&W
Takamaru
Sukapon

KIRBY SERIES

Kirby
Meta Knight
King DeDeDe

METROID SERIES

Samus/Zero Suit Samus
Ridley

STARFOX SERIES

Fox
Falco
Krystal

MOTHER SERIES

Lucas
Claus (Masked-Man)

FIRE EMBLEM SERIES

Ike
Micaiah

F-ZERO SERIES

Captain Falcon

OTHER

Captain Olimar
Isaac
Animal Crossing MC
Mii

THIRD PARTY

Snake
Sonic
Megaman


My Doubts would be regarding Marth, Bowser Jr. and Midna+Wolf Link... and some obvious still-in-doubt additions: Geno, Skapon, Takamaru, Isaac... well you know.

10 Female Characters... (including alternate costume for Pokémon Trainer)
32 Male Characters...

42 is the Lucky Number... though there are 46 characters if you count Sheik, Zamus and the Pokémon Trainer TAG team.

It won't get any bigger than this... it would be far too many. I'm pretty sure there are FAR too many right now in this list.

Opinions plz.
 

EPX2

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There's no way Marth isn't returning; wouldn't make much sense for Brawl to feature FE characters, but lack the face of FE himself.
 

ßruK

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Umm... you do think Midna deserves the spot of representing the Zelda Series... ok.
I know she's a great character... and a Female too... but I don't agree with you there.
I think WW Link (probably named Young Link in the game) is far more appealing for the representation of the series. Though probably both could get a spot there. I'm just saying WW Link has more priority since he's more popular, and has appeared in more games.
 

mezbomber

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wow!!! That's nearly the exact roster I've predicted. The only difference in my roster is "Megaman OR Bomberman OR neither). Everything else seems to be right on. I also question Takamaru and Sukapon's chances (I hope they're in).
 

vesperview

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Umm... you do think Midna deserves the spot of representing the Zelda Series... ok.
I know she's a great character... and a Female too... but I don't agree with you there.
I think WW Link (probably named Young Link in the game) is far more appealing for the representation of the series. Though probably both could get a spot there. I'm just saying WW Link has more priority since he's more popular, and has appeared in more games.
But in the end he is just another Link.
 

ßruK

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I'm pretty sure Marth will get in... since his moveset wasn't used yet. So... yep... Isaac's gone then. Marth's in.
 

raphtmarqui

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I dont see why people think Sukapon has so great of a chance.
Isaac has a better chance IMO.
 

ßruK

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True... Isaac has far more chances. Well Marth has to be in, so someone must go. I'm sticking to this list though... Sukapon would have chances if Joy Mech Fight was released in Wii's Virtual Console.
 

mezbomber

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There's no way Marth isn't returning; wouldn't make much sense for Brawl to feature FE characters, but lack the face of FE himself.
Except, Ike was the protagonist of the first FE game released in the U.S. He's equally as representative to the series as Marth. Besides, most of the games in the FE series have different protagonists (note: I said most). In the same regard, who is the face of Final Fantasy? Cecil, Terra, Bart, Squall, Zidane, Cloud, Ramza, Titus? No...it was random Fighter, Thief, BlackBelt, BlackMage, WhiteMage, and RedMage because they were in the first game. Arguably, Cloud is probably the most popular...but what about Chocobos, Moogles, or Cid for that matter, who show up in a greater quantity of games?

So... why do you think Marth is THE face of Fire Emblem?
 

Red&Silver

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i pray to god we dont get WW link so pointless i mean like we already got link why would we need another one?why not give the spot to someone else in the series like jeez
 

WeXzuZ

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Geno, since Geno is 3rd party and owned by Square Enix(?) I am unsure if he will make it
Sheik, people made me unsure on her because Sheik wasn't in TP. Might get in though
WW Link, new moveset then
Lucario for another Pokemon? That franchise means a lot to Nintendo
Takamaru, Dont think so.. Maybe AT?
Sukapon, same as Takamaru
Falco, new move set, else he is out, which I think he is
Micaiah, no clue if he/she is important in the series, then maybe yes
Captain Olimar, Innovative! I can imagine him being in the game
Isaac, I dont think he will though
Animal Crosser Human, is in here I think
Mii, alternative to a Primid...
Megaman, I think so too..

Nice roster though.
 

EPX2

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Except, Ike was the protagonist of the first FE game released in the U.S. He's equally as representative to the series as Marth. Besides, most of the games in the FE series have different protagonists (note: I said most). In the same regard, who is the face of Final Fantasy? Cecil, Terra, Bart, Squall, Zidane, Cloud, Ramza, Titus? No...it was random Fighter, Thief, BlackBelt, BlackMage, WhiteMage, and RedMage because they were in the first game. Arguably, Cloud is probably the most popular...but what about Chocobos, Moogles, or Cid for that matter, who show up in a greater quantity of games?

So... why do you think Marth is THE face of Fire Emblem?
Simple enough - because he's the character most likely to be associated with the franchise. There's also plenty of other minor reasons (for example, he was the main character in the short-lived FE anime), but that's the reason I support most.

In response to your other question, that's undeniably Cloud. He's very likely the most popular FF lead, and as such he's the character that will most often be associated with FF, making him the face.
 

schlepboogie

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i pray to god we dont get WW link so pointless i mean like we already got link why would we need another one?why not give the spot to someone else in the series like jeez

oh great... now you made these little *****es cry... i on the other hand completly agree. **** ww link.
 

raphtmarqui

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Except, Ike was the protagonist of the first FE game released in the U.S.
Ike is NOT protagonist of the first FE game released in the U.S.
Eliwood is.
Maybe you shouldn't post if you don't know what your talking about. >_>
 

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Remove Geno imediatly! Hes got no chance, i'll bet you 200 american Dollars
Care to back-up that brash assumption?

I swear. This guy doesn't even know who Geno is. Heck, I'll bet that he didn't know who Geno was until after he came to these boards.

Here's a little piece of info: You not wanting him to have a chance =/= Him, in actuality/reality, not having a chance.
 
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No lucario makes your list... WIN!!!!

i think Bowser Jr. should replace Geno on your list though... He just has more of a chance due to not being third party and being in more games
 

Cooperlicious

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I still pray at night for Bowser Jr (He's all I play as in Strikers), but I don't like his chances either :(
 

Qbuilderz

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i like bowser jr. i never played geno though, but he looks like he is made from wood...is he?
 

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Remove Geno imediatly! Hes got no chance, i'll bet you 200 american Dollars
Hmmm....see those 277 posts? Every single one of them was spent trolling the Geno thread with terrible "arguments" that consisted of flat-out insults and "lodjic". Your opinion has no bearing.

On topic, other than WW Link (Midna would be better, IMO), this list is pretty close to how I expect the Brawl roster will turn out (NOTE: I've never played Twilight Princess and before this board, had no idea who Sukapon and Takamaru were)

*edit*

i like bowser jr. i never played geno though, but he looks like he is made from wood...is he?
Yup. He's a wooden doll who's full of various weapons. He's from Super Mario RPG.
 

Cooperlicious

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Bowser JR isn't exactly prominent, and Geno is notoriously requested by many. What's the final character count supposed to be anyway? I read somewhere it's 40-50, but that was a while ago and haven't heard anything since.
 

Break

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Why do people think a Mii will be a playable character? I think it's a ridiculously stupid idea - who the hell wants to play as a frickin Mii? That's what Wii Sports and whatnot is for. In summary, if someone seriously thinks that a Mii is good I idea then I find that person to be a very lulz-worthy individual. I'd much rather see Ness return than see a stupid Mii as playable.
 

Red&Silver

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Why do people think a Mii will be a playable character? I think it's a ridiculously stupid idea - who the hell wants to play as a frickin Mii? That's what Wii Sports and whatnot is for. In summary, if someone seriously thinks that a Mii is good I idea then I find that person to be a very lulz-worthy individual. I'd much rather see Ness return than see a stupid Mii as playable.
thank you!!someone thinks
 

Cooperlicious

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The Mii may be a lame idea, but I don't think it's out of the question. Mii's are going to become a staple of Nintendo history, and I can understand some people wanting to play as "themselves" but I don't think it's a good idea to throw this in than a character that people are actually clamoring for.
 

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So... why do you think Marth is THE face of Fire Emblem?
Lol, without Marth, you wouldn't have any FE. He's the main character of the game that started the series. He established the lord archetype, which has been copied again and again from game to game. In Japan, he's extremely retro-famous. Who cares what the USA thinks? Srsly, it's all about Japan yo.

Geno is neither retro enough nor does he star in enough games to be playable in Brawl. I just don't get why he has so much freaking support when he's almost nonexistent in today's world of games. >_>

Bowser Jr on the other hand looks really likely, since Diddy Kong is paired up with DK. He's been getting some pretty important roles in recent Mario games.
 
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EPIC FAIL, Geno is more requested than Stupid Bowser Jr.
it doesn't really matter... If everyone wanted Sailor Moon to be playable i still don't think she'd be in the game.

Why would SquareEnix pick geno to be their representative instead of someone like Black Mage or Sora or someone who would bring in money for them?

Geno doesn't look like he's going anywhere, he's only been prominent in one game while Bowser Jr. has been a major villian in two games (three if you count mario & luigi partners in time since his character model was used) and he's probably going to be in more games as a villian.

Saying EPIC and FAIL doesn't really make your post any more 'EPIC' besides it not like i'm requesting Waluigi or anything
 

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it doesn't really matter... If everyone wanted Sailor Moon to be playable i still don't think she'd be in the game.
Everyone knows anime characters can't be in Brawl, that's a bad example.

Why would SquareEnix pick geno to be their representative instead of someone like Black Mage or Sora or someone who would bring in money for them?
Sakurai has stated that he doesn't consider Geno to be third party, thus, Square Enix can have another representative.

Geno doesn't look like he's going anywhere, he's only been prominent in one game while Bowser Jr. has been a major villian in two games (three if you count mario & luigi partners in time since his character model was used) and he's probably going to be in more games as a villian.
Bowser Jr = One game, cause Baby Bowser is NOT Bowser Jr.

Geno = Two Games

Your point? If they wanted to make Geno take center stage again, they can do it, Brawl is the perfect scenario for that.
 

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it doesn't really matter... If everyone wanted Sailor Moon to be playable i still don't think she'd be in the game.

Why would SquareEnix pick geno to be their representative instead of someone like Black Mage or Sora or someone who would bring in money for them?

Geno doesn't look like he's going anywhere, he's only been prominent in one game while Bowser Jr. has been a major villian in two games (three if you count mario & luigi partners in time since his character model was used) and he's probably going to be in more games as a villian.
Okay...

1. Geno is more widely requested than Bowser Jr, AND has been directly referenced to by Sakurai more. It doesn't matter their relevance to the series, but rather fan interest and the interest of Sakurai himself (Oh, hello there Sheik!). The infamous "poll" shows Geno right-smack in between THREE confirmed characters and a solid spot at the top.

2. Once again, it's not about what Square wants, but what Sakurai wants. If he goes to Square and asks for Geno, he leaves with Geno, regardless what Square says. Also, the 2nd and 1/2 ownership theory means that Square ownership might not even be an issue. Plus, there is no such thing as "company reps". Snake got in not as a Konami rep, but because of Kojima's love of the SSB series. Sonic got in because he's extremely relavant to Nintendo's history as being the first worthy rival to the company's main games.

3. Bowser Jr. is a relatively new character who will continue to appear in future games. This is pretty much Geno's last chance to get back into the gaming scene, and would serve as a great throwback to not only the start of Mario's RPG career, but the age of SNES RPGs in general, and that's not even adding the excellent fanservice it would provide.

4. Your Sailor Moon comment is a very smelly red herring. Sailor Moon doesn't even have a remote chance. Geno has a fairly decent one that continues to improve as the available characters to choose from shrinks.
 

Suska

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I think I speak for everyone when I say, nothing Sakurai is going to put in the game is predictable
 
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