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The People Have Spoken! Dojo Updates In A Perfect World!

X-x-Dyce-x-X

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Sakurai has been giving us daily weekday updates since May. And not to say that what he is doing is going unappreciated and not worth it, I just feel like that extra step could be taken to make it the one thing to brighten up all of our days. What do you feel would make weekday updates better? Can you come up with a better schedule than just random updates day-to-day? Is there something you would like to see but fear you may never get to see? (and I'm not talking about your favorite character)
This is the place to voice your opinions. Speak loud, speak proud.

Here, I'll start with my suggestions:

Characters : One update a week. All the returning characters first, then all the newcomers. This way we'll finally know who didn't make the cut from Melee.

Movesets : Whole movesets please! No more two-per-update anymore. Link's moveset was the best moveset update, and maybe one of the best updates ever. It was flawlessly made. Finish up Fox, Pit, Wario, and PT and get on with it.

Final Smashes : FSes are good as they are. Keep it up. But try to elaborate more, and some short video explanations would work better than just simple images (not to mention more satisfying).

Items : At least two every time they want to update them, whether they be new one or returning. One item a day is nowhere need satisfying enough.

ATs /Pokemon : One each every time either of them are going to be given an update. There has to be so many of each (at least for the Pokemon) that Sakurai can manage to keep that up.

Stages : EVERYTHING that goes on in a stage should be shown (or in WarioWare's case, at least most of it).

"How to Play" : No more basic "How to Play" updates until Brawl comes out. We all know the basics, and it's an easy game to pick up on so any monkey with a Nintendo can understand it in a ten minute span. We don't need to waste a day on it.

Techniques : Techniques fall into the same category as FSes, just explain everything about them to us. No more guessing games Sakurai. We want it all.

Music : We want to hear the whole song, from the start to the end of the loop. No more quartered versions of the songs we've all grown to love.

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And now, here's my thoughts on what a "Perfect Week in the Dojo" would be.
My "Dream Schedule":

Monday- Something BIG. We've had a whole weekend of no updates so something big and wonderful should grace our wanting eyes. Maybe a character or a FS (with video).

Tuesday- Ah! I love Two-for-Tuesday! This can be the time of the week where we get both of those items or the AT and Pokemon combo.

Wednesday- Middle of the week... kinda slow... a bummer for most people... let's give them something nice. How does a stage update sound? Good? Yea, I thought so too.

Thursday- We can slow down a bit. We've had a big week. Something not too flashy, but not a total snoozer. Maybe some music or a technique?

Friday- Now Friday is the day we almost dread in the Smash community. This is the end of the week and we have the whole weekend with nothing new coming until Monday. We should end on something big. Something to think about over a long and grueling weekend. Something reminiscent of a "This World..." update.

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Think you've got something better? Like my suggestions but you think I missed something. Hey, this thread is about what the people want, not just me. Get to posting! And keep on Smashing!​

-Dyce​
 

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This is one of the most ungreatful posts I have ever come across...
Sakurai is giving us more pre-release information than any other game ever.
Stop complaining.
 

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This does seem kind of selfish. I mean, the creator is going out of his way to show us a little piece of the game, EVERY day.
But then again, what other game has THIS much content that you can show a bit of it everyday? None.

So yeh, I'm against Smoke Balls and Basic Combo's and How To Recover, but we should be thankful Sakurai is giving us something whilst we wait for Brawl.
 

X-x-Dyce-x-X

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You're right. I guess I was being a bit ungrateful and disrespectful. That's not how I feel, I guess I just got a tad bit carried away. This thread is about appreciating what Sakurai is doing, but imagining how much better the updates could be. I appologize to all, and have fixed my mistakes.
 

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Good stuff Dyce =] .
I would also like to see more awesome updates, but I don't mind the boring ones because I appreciate what Sakurai is doing. I just brush it off, and really I just don't care and I go on with my day. I'm sure you feel the same way Dyce.
 

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I hope that there won't be any secret characters revealed before launch. I have a feeling that Meta Knight is a secret character and Snake is one as well, but hopefully it'll stop there.
 

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I'm happy with how things are. The way you put it makes it seem like theres gotta be a new character or stage or something... every week... till release...
 

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Actually I like the unpredictible random (was that redundant?) updates. I just like surprises and twists. Plus I never though of any updates as bad updates... sept for the "how to plays" that we already knew. But meh.
 

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Ungrateful but a good idea. The one thing I have found out on my time on this planet is that yea the big wigs like feedback but not an exact list of what they should be putting out, especially when its something that they are doing out of the kindness of their heart.
 

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This does seem kind of selfish. I mean, the creator is going out of his way to show us a little piece of the game, EVERY day.
But then again, what other game has THIS much content that you can show a bit of it everyday? None.

So yeh, I'm against Smoke Balls and Basic Combo's and How To Recover, but we should be thankful Sakurai is giving us something whilst we wait for Brawl.
I usually agree with your posts, but I think you've missed the mark on this one. There's nothing "generous" about what Sakurai's doing here. He's giving little snippits of information so people can talk, speculate, and eventually get the hype moving for this game. It's a tactic that was used for Marvel: Ultimate Alliance as well. And what the topic creator doesn't realise is that if he gives all the information there'll be alot less to talk about, which would defeat the purpose of the updates.
 

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I would switch Monday and Friday. Space Emissary on Monday and a big Character Update on Friday.
 

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Hungry Gamer is right. If we knew that every Monday would have a character, people would be like: "omg todayz munday sonik updet!" Sakurai's mindgames may have me unhappy at times, but his "apology" in the form of newcomer adds an element of suprise to waiting for an update.
 

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I like how they did the Special Move How to Play because not only did it explain the basics of something, it also gave us some extra moves for Metaknight, so we got something old AND new for it. I think that's a pretty good deal, don't you?
 

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A bit ungratefull... i mean im happy with whatever i get... but if i wanted to be greedy my perfect schedule would be an characters each day first day returning then the next new etc...
 

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Guys guys, don't give Dyce a hard time, i think he means well. But yeah, let's not get to greedy, i'd rather find out everything while playing the game instead of finding out everything from a website. =/
 

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Right, I mean no injustice so Sakurai, Sora, or the Dojo. But I suppose this thread was a bad idea on my part. It sounded good in my mind. It's too bad, too. I would have put a lot of money into this thread, too. Luckily, SWF runs nothing like the stock market or I would have been out on my arse.

Janitor, or any other mod who reads this post in the near future, just do me a favor and close this next time you get the chance? Thanks. I don't know how much more abuse I can take.
 

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Hey, I don't know why people are flaming you Dyce. I mean, all you're doing is just voicing your opinion, which is fine in my case. It's all good to speak your mind about what you'd like, it's not like you're DEMANDING it or something...
 

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No pity please.

But yea, I mean, I did get out of hand a bit at first. But then I realized it and cleaned up and only said what I wanted to see. And even though Sakurai is doing a great job, I can't be the only one who wants to see a little something more from the Dojo. Am I?
 

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Nah, I feel the same way. And most people do at least secretly. I'd like to see a few more characters, but I wont complain if he doesn't. (I will complain if he does a week straight of how to play though...urgh.)
 

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Nope. Now I'm Evil. Crap, now I either can't post, or can't stop posting until I hit 1337 posts...****!

Well, in celebration of my being evil, I will now curse alot.

****
****
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Crap
****

Thank you.
 

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I guess I'll just close this thread...

Everyone hates me now :(.
No...I don't. You kick @$$ Dyce.

Right, I mean no injustice so Sakurai, Sora, or the Dojo. But I suppose this thread was a bad idea on my part. It sounded good in my mind. It's too bad, too. I would have put a lot of money into this thread, too. Luckily, SWF runs nothing like the stock market or I would have been out on my arse.

Janitor, or any other mod who reads this post in the near future, just do me a favor and close this next time you get the chance? Thanks. I don't know how much more abuse I can take.
No! Don't close it...not yet, anyway. I wanna add my ideas, as no one else has...

Hey, I don't know why people are flaming you Dyce. I mean, all you're doing is just voicing your opinion, which is fine in my case. It's all good to speak your mind about what you'd like, it's not like you're DEMANDING it or something...
I agree.

No pity please.

But yea, I mean, I did get out of hand a bit at first. But then I realized it and cleaned up and only said what I wanted to see. And even though Sakurai is doing a great job, I can't be the only one who wants to see a little something more from the Dojo. Am I?
It ain't pity. And no, you're not. I wanna see more too...

Nah, I feel the same way. And most people do at least secretly. I'd like to see a few more characters, but I wont complain if he doesn't. (I will complain if he does a week straight of how to play though...urgh.)
Oh, God...then I might not blame Repryx for murdering Sakurai. 'course, I'd still save him. But then I'd give him a warning and make him update a full week of characters.

Nope. Now I'm Evil. Crap, now I either can't post, or can't stop posting until I hit 1337 posts...****!

Well, in celebration of my being evil, I will now curse alot.

****
****
***
Crap
****

Thank you.
...wow...you're weird...

Well...I also have my own opinions, so I'll post 'em...I mean, that what this place is for, right? So, here we go!

First, my wishes for updates--how they should be, I mean.

Characters
Well...characters...I say, if you're gonna update a character, show us the moveset and FS as well. These all go in the same update. I'm not trying to be greedy (much), but I'm sure I'm not the only one who wants to see everything about a character immediately. One a week. I don't really care what order they come in, but no hidden characters please, unless it's Sonic. Or (for me, anyway) Wolf Link.

Special Moves
Like I said, these belong with the characters. But they should show all four, not only two. Also, taunts belong with these--a pic, maybe, or a short vid. The grab and the throws should go here too.

Final Smashes
These also belong with the characters, and there should be a short video showing the attack in action, answering any questions that may arise. For example: show us, with Link's FS, the entire thing, whether it's possible to avoid it, and whether or not you can attack more than one person with it.

How to Play
All the "Smash 101" crap needs to go away. The techniques should stay though. One a week...

Game Modes
One Game Mode a week, although I would prefer it were a Subspace Emissary update rather than something like "Special Brawl". That kind of thing's okay once in a while though.

Stages
If there are effects, I wanna know all of them, unless it's something like WarioWare. And don't be vague! "For each challenge you clear, there is, of course, a reward." "What's the underground like? You can look forward to finding out later." "Hey! What's at the top? Huh? Hmm...I wonder..." Enough of that crap, Sakurai! Give us the details! One stage a week!

Items
One item update a week. It should consist of an item, a Pokémon, and an Assist Trophy. And just 'cause there are three updates in one doesn't mean we should lose any detail!

Music
One music update a week, along with the stage it goes with. To clarify: a stage update should have the stage, the effects, ALL the details, and the music. And no sliced-off version--the whole loop.

Notices
These...need to die. We only have one, and it's the release date. Just...I dunno...put it on somewhere at the top so that it never goes away. The video that went with it? Pointless, really, except Wario's taunt.

Now...the way the week should be set up (IMO) is like this...

Monday
On Monday, we should get a character, complete with all the modifications I made. All the veterans, and then the newcomers (that we start with).

Tuesday
On Tuesday, I want a stage, preferrably one to go with the character of Monday.

Wednesday
Hmm...the middle of the week...how about a...how about our items today? Sounds good to me...

Thursday
Something not too big today...lemme see...a technique? Yeah, a technique sounds good.

Friday
Well, it's the end of the week. The only thing left is a Subspace Emissary update. A good one, to let us ponder 'til next week...where we get another character.


That's what I want. As for Notices, they should be posted with the rest of the crap in that grey box on the left--the one with the release date and the movies.
 

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You know what the perfect update we'll be:

The Virtual Mother Update

An update solely for the other updates. You go to the Dojo website as usual to check the update. An animation of your mother is there and greets you. You check the update.

Now here's the thing. If you complain about the update. Your animated mother will out of the computer and start whipping your behind telling you that you should be grateful and think about fans of other games who aren't getting daily updates.

IT'S THE PERFECT UPDATE!
 

Ogre_Deity_Link

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You know what the perfect update we'll be:

The Virtual Mother Update

An update solely for the other updates. You go to the Dojo website as usual to check the update. An animation of your mother is there and greets you. You check the update.

Now here's the thing. If you complain about the update. Your animated mother will out of the computer and start whipping your behind telling you that you should be grateful and think about fans of other games who aren't getting daily updates.

IT'S THE PERFECT UPDATE!
Oh get the stick out of your butt and QFT.
 
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