The Ouija Board

[voittaa711]

Come here and tell stories about your ouija board experiences or why you think they are real or not.

If you don't know what it is heres a picture.
http://www.hauntedamericatours.com/ouija/images/ouija board.jpg

Basically, theres that board with a pointer piece. You have at least 2 people with your fingertips on it, ask it a question and it moves to "tells you the truth." I'm sure a lot of you are familiar with it.

Ouija boards are thought to be a portal to another realm that cannot be controlled or to hell. A lot of paranormal researches just say NOT to mess with them and that only bad can come from it.

Personally, I think its a load of bull. I mean, if it really was a portal to hell, why would they mass produce them and sell them at Toys R Us?

Your thoughts.

 

[Vinnie275]

Why should you have senses limited to those they teach you on Sesame Street.

Admit that all three year olds with a TV understand "the five senses".
sight
touch
sound
taste
smell





Let's be whimsical for a second.
Do you have a sense of time? After 10 min has passed, you know that at least 5 and not more than 15 have elapsed?
Sometimes after hours I can get it almost on the minute.

Consider the scientists that mapped a dog's brain patterns. Before it's owner left work, but just when the owner thought about going home, the dog's brain activity sped up.
The research from such experiments suggests senses that are like "telepathy" exist.

Do you get a strong feeling when someone is watching you?

Boundless examples of humans and animals alike exhibiting awareness of the surrounding world and almost supernatural comprehension are easily explained- unfocused senses.

Seers, magicians, forbidden lost alchemy, all tools of human psyche lost through non-use.

My sister told me she figures we have at least twenty senses that we use unknowingly.
I often am aware of reactions in my body that happen that I would not be aware of with just the "five senses".



MY POINT----
Ouija board is just a tool for another lost sense. If it doesn't work for you, hone your natural senses that make use of spatial-proxy physics etc.

 

[Blu-ninja]

well...

my mom told me story of how great how life was going until one day..

DUM DUM DUM

she used a quija borad,
messed up her whole life.

please dont mess with it..
why take the risk for the sake of fun...?

EDIT:

@zapdos.
that works also!

=B

 

[voittaa711]

MY POINT----
Ouija board is just a tool for another lost sense. If it doesn't work for you, hone your natural senses that make use of spatial-proxy physics etc.

I liked what you said about sense of time, sense of awareness, and sense of someone watching you. I never really thought of those in that way. Those can't quite fit under the sense of smell, hearing, taste category though. They aren't the same.

The Ouija board though....Can it be proven that it is used for a lost sense?

or can you consider the possibility that your fingers could be involuntarily moving to your subconscience thoughts of an answer?

 

[Jammer]

Why should you have senses limited to those they teach you on Sesame Street.

Admit that all three year olds with a TV understand "the five senses".
sight
touch
sound
taste
smell

Let's be whimsical for a second.
Do you have a sense of time? After 10 min has passed, you know that at least 5 and not more than 15 have elapsed?
Sometimes after hours I can get it almost on the minute.

There are many more "senses" that we humans have, besides the five usual ones. For example, the sense of knowing how your limbs are positioned without moving them around.

I set my alarm for 7:00 am. I often wake up at 6:58 or 6:59, and I just watch the clock until the alarm goes off.

Paranormal? No. Just a good internal clock.

As for ouija boards, they're a bunch of hoopla. You move it; it doesn't move you. Granted, sometimes you come up with interesting answers, but that's just part subconscious interference, and part group mentality or whatever it's called.

Just like if you have a group of people guess the number of marbles in a container, the average of their answers will always be very close to the actual number. A similar thing happens when you're playing with an ouija board with a couple of people.

 

[voittaa711]

You can never know if the people you're doing it with are being for real either. I did it one time with a friend and she asked "Is there a heaven?" and I pushed it slowly to "yes" and she totally bought it until of course I told her I did it.

 

[KingJiggyWiggy]

^wtf you can buy that **** at Toys'R'Us? Its fake.^

 

[Xanthyr]

Do you get a strong feeling when someone is watching you?

I have no idea if this holds validity, however, I remember hearing this interesting thing.

Every part of your brain pulses, it sounds out a wave from every inch of your brain every increment of time that you have a synapse. All parts, except one small area. This apparently does not send out a wave of any sort. However, it does the opposite, it's supposed to just absorb brain waves.

This, I believe is where you get the feeling of someone watching you. Your admirer is focused in on you, looking most likely at your head. They're intent in thought, on you. So, they're directing all of their focus on you, thus kicking up the amount of waves sent, all especially directed at you. This is where your wave-sponge thing picks up on the frequency and translates it to the feeling of someone watching you.

I recall certain stealth arts saying that if you're stalking someone, you want to make yourself believe that you're in a completely different place, do not focus on your target, just think you're elsewhere, and your victim will never think you're there. Makes sense to me, especially with the aforementioned brain-thing.

I'd be walking through a house that's supposed to be empty, and I'll get a funny feeling, and I'll stop, and all of a sudden reach around the corner to grab my brother, who was standing in wait in order to scare me. I had no idea that he was there, nor could I hear him, or anything. In fact, I was listening to music as I entered the house, so riddle me that?

 

[KingJiggyWiggy]

^ In the name of KingJiggyWiggy, you get two cupcakes.^

But the blueberry ones are mine.

 

[Jammer]

Arghh! Xanthyr, man, what you said is complete and utter falsity.

There is a part of your brain that makes you feel as if you are not alone. This activates whenever your brain believes someone in near you or whatever.

Have you ever been in your room with the door closed, all alone, and heard creaks in your house? If they're just right, they can seriously fool your brain into thinking that someone is tip-toeing around, even though you know no one is.

Perhaps you're heard the wind open and shut a door. Since it's a the first time, you don't know the wind did it. You feel like someone is with you, even though no one is.

Sometimes you're in bed, facing the wall, thinking very hard about people you know or whatever. Don't you feel the urge to turn around and look over your room because you feel someone is standing there?

It works the other way, too. Someone can be sleeping quietly on the couch, and you go into the room, turn on the TV, and don't even notice them until the TV disturbs their sleep.

Did you know that the part of the brain that makes you feel like you're not alone can be activated by chemicals? Pills that activate this part of the brain, which are sort of in development, are called "God pills". They make you feel as if someone is with you always, like a God.

 

[Vinnie275]

It's popular belief that shamans can control the signals in their brain that release chemicals into their bloodstream.

I want a blood muffin (_ *_)

 

[Xanthyr]

Arghh! Xanthyr, man, what you said is complete and utter falsity.

I've not really had those feelings before, to be honest. The thing I'm talking about is like you're walking in a mall, or sitting in a classroom full of people, and then you have an urge to look in a very specific point in space behind you. You look without hesitation and then you meet eye contact with someone who was staring at you.

I understand the human brain making you feel like you're not alone, but I have experienced too much consistency with catching people that I had no idea was there, in a magnetic like attraction to where they were.

It's always possible that I have experienced a total fluke of coincidences throughout my life.


As for the pill thing, that would feel weird.

 

[voittaa711]

These sudden urges to look in a direction or you feel like someone is looking at you is just human instinct. My first instinct is 75% correct normally (although I always pick the opposite...)

If the Ouija board were to "tap" into a sense, it would have to have something to do with relaxing yourself with concentration because you have to sit there so **** long lol. I think it has nothing to do with spirits or an all knowing "oracle."

If you believe otherwise I'd like to know your opinion.

 

[Jammer]

The thing I'm talking about is like you're walking in a mall, or sitting in a classroom full of people, and then you have an urge to look in a very specific point in space behind you. You look without hesitation and then you meet eye contact with someone who was staring at you.

I understand the human brain making you feel like you're not alone, but I have experienced too much consistency with catching people that I had no idea was there, in a magnetic like attraction to where they were.

It's always possible that I have experienced a total fluke of coincidences throughout my life.

Ah, okay. You'd be surprised how much information you gleam from your surrounding that never even reaches your consciousness, and then when you act on that information, you surprise yourself, and decide that some kind of supernatural thing is going on.

Take a look at this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfffcjEcYJc

In it, you will see Derren Brown go behind a guy, and punch the air. The guy knows that Derren has punched the air, even though he can't see or hear him. There are other, very subtle clues in our surroundings that our minds pick up on to know things like what someone behind you is doing, but you'd only be able to really know them if you're in a sort of trance, like that guy.

You feel that someone is staring at you in a mall? Perhaps you looked at them without seeing them, if you know what I mean, and saw that they were looking at you. Then your subconscious mind sees in your peripheral vision that their head has travelled along with you. After a bit, it realizes that the person is staring at you, and you feel the urge to look at them.

Stuff like that happens all the time if you know what to look for.

 

[Zink]

In it, you will see Derren Brown go behind a guy, and punch the air. The guy knows that Derren has punched the air, even though he can't see or hear him. There are other, very subtle clues in our surroundings that our minds pick up on to know things like what someone behind you is doing, but you'd only be able to really know them if you're in a sort of trance, like that guy.

That was really more of a suggestion thing. It was a type of hypnosis, not any kind of special sense.

 

[Pluvia's other account]

It's all a load of rubbish people. I can't believe people fall for all that crap.

 

[Xsyven]

Milton Bradley is the doorway to hell.

I love it.

 

[McCloud]

Milton Bradley is the doorway to hell.

I love it.

Or smart investments. Goooo Monopoly!

 

[Jammer]

That was really more of a suggestion thing. It was a type of hypnosis, not any kind of special sense.

I wasn't talking about the fact that the guy felt the punch. I was talking about the fact that the guy knew exactly when Derren punched the air, when he couldn't see or hear him. He used clues from his surroundings (like light patterns, the gaze and expression of people around him, etc.) that told him what the guy behind him was doing.

 

[voittaa711]

Milton Bradley is the doorway to hell.

I love it.

Ya really whats next? Barbie dolls with gleaming red eyes? Cmon.

 

[Vinnie275]

Ya really whats next? Barbie dolls with gleaming red eyes? Cmon.

That would be cool

 

[Jammer]

Oh crap. You reminded me of my Furby.

I swear my Furby was possessed. I distinctly remember putting it on table when I was sleeping on the floor with some friends. The next morning, it was staring into my face. I freaked out so bad.

Furbies scare me.

 

[Vinnie275]

....p. You reminded me of my Furby.

I sw...

HUH?! What part of what???


You Jammer = Weird

 

[Jammer]

Possessed Barbies. They reminded me of my possessed Furby.

You know what a Furby is, right? See the Wikipedia article.

 

[Vinnie275]

I UNDERSTAND


red eyes = possessed

Like in the movies

 

[Xanthyr]

Oh crap. You reminded me of my Furby.

I swear my Furby was possessed. I distinctly remember putting it on table when I was sleeping on the floor with some friends. The next morning, it was staring into my face. I freaked out so bad.

Furbies scare me.

My mom bought a furby from a garage sale and brought it back to the house. I didn't like it at all, I don't like animatronics, they creep me out. Anyways, I don't know if Furbies have recognition capabilities, but he would always call one of my friends, "Mommy", without fail. He'd walk into the room from far away, he'd call for him. Never has he called anyone else mommy, and it's eyelids were messed up, so it looked either stoned or psychopathic every time you look at him/her/it.


Also:

Don't you just ever have intuition to look somewhere? I don't know how to convey my thought. Say there are 10 closets in a hallway, only one of them contain a person in wait, expecting your presense. You walk through the hallway, and without a sense being triggered, you are brought back to a specific door. That door and the wall around it feel weird to you, as if active or tingling, you open the door, and there the person is.

I just described what I've always felt when someone was tailing me or hiding from me. Whether you share it or not, it's something that I at least know I have.


Also: Tarot cards. Anyone have experience with them?

I have had limited experiences with two of my friends who had bought decks from a mystic shop from Solvang, California. Anyways, they bought them and we did readings later in the day, to get used to reading the cards and interpereting them. It was pretty hilarious how it worked out because we just started making fun of eachother as the readings came out, but after a while we started to get more serious to the process.

We read 18 of our friends (It was a huge beach trip with a lot of friends) twice, once with each deck, some people were read multiple times. I found it a little unnerving of the consistency pertaining to each person. No individual had received two contradicting readings, in fact, they were all almost exactly the same. The kicker is that everyone's readings were profusely different from eachother, no one got the same thing, or even close.

The real dealbreaker was that it was consistent with the people's personalities as well. One friend was a real clown of a person. Very immature, thought highly of himself, was ridiculously ******** with social conduct. His readings were along the lines of him needing to be more humble or suffer losing friends and things like that, it also said that he was a stubborn fool, which is very true. (It was over two years ago, so I forgot most of it =/)

We were read more than once, and it didn't falter for anyone. I just thought it was very queer with how it was happening. I know that you would probably say, "But if you have an outcome in mind, you will change the readings to fit that meaning, no matter what you do." and I agree with that, but we were being as objective as possible, even trying to think of a completely different result, it still came up linear to the others.


So, yeah, oija boards I will never touch, even if it's a frivolous superstition. I don't like tarot cards much either =/

 

[Tom]

*points topic away from Furbys...*

Every now and then, my girlfriend will remind me that a few years before we met, when she was in her pre-teen emo stage, she and her friends were playing with a Ouija board. She says that when they asked who she would love, it spelled out T - S - M, which are my initials.

I always tell her she's full of it. I just can't follow the things Zapdos275 and you guys are saying. I believe in the fact that your brain can be tricked to believe someone is where they are not, but other than that... nope. =/

 

[Livvers]

Arghh! Xanthyr, man, what you said is complete and utter falsity.

There is a part of your brain that makes you feel as if you are not alone. This activates whenever your brain believes someone in near you or whatever.

Have you ever been in your room with the door closed, all alone, and heard creaks in your house? If they're just right, they can seriously fool your brain into thinking that someone is tip-toeing around, even though you know no one is.

Perhaps you're heard the wind open and shut a door. Since it's a the first time, you don't know the wind did it. You feel like someone is with you, even though no one is.

Sometimes you're in bed, facing the wall, thinking very hard about people you know or whatever. Don't you feel the urge to turn around and look over your room because you feel someone is standing there?

It works the other way, too. Someone can be sleeping quietly on the couch, and you go into the room, turn on the TV, and don't even notice them until the TV disturbs their sleep.

Did you know that the part of the brain that makes you feel like you're not alone can be activated by chemicals? Pills that activate this part of the brain, which are sort of in development, are called "God pills". They make you feel as if someone is with you always, like a God.

I agree with what you've been saying. Also, someone is much more likely to remember the times they thought someone was there(or someone was looking at you)and they actually were than the times you glance and there's no one. It's because if there's no one there, you brush it off and forget it. It was already only a passing feeling. If someone is there, then your mind will find it more significant that you actually guessed correctly, thus making it more memorable.

 

[Jammer]

Ah, thanks for pointing that out, Livvers. I totally forgot that side of it.

Just so you guys know, pretty much everything I've learned in this regard came from watching YouTube videos of Derren Brown. If you're interested in how the brain works, and how you can get people to accept blank pieces of paper as money, you should check him out.

 

[voittaa711]

I just watched that video with the blank pieces of paper for money.

You have to be completely stupid and careless to accept something liek that. Even though he was straying their thoughts away from it, I think any normal person would be able to notice the white paper. I thnk that may be staged.

 

[Jammer]

You have to be completely stupid and careless to accept something liek that. Even though he was straying their thoughts away from it, I think any normal person would be able to notice the white paper. I thnk that may be staged.

That's just because you don't know what Derren Brown is capable of.

Here's the crux of the trick: Did you listen to the story he was telling as he was giving them the paper? He was talking about his friend whom he trusted who said to "take it--it's fine". In the story, he was referring to the subway station, but this made the people subconsciously think "take it--it's fine", referring to the blank pieces of paper.

Voila, and he gets a $1,600 ring (or thereabouts) for the cost of a few slips of paper.

I love how the only guy to not be fooled was the street vendor, because he's probably more used to hooligans.

 

[voittaa711]

I still don't completely understand how that guy at the jewerly store didn't even count the money and trusted a complete stranger.

 

[Vinnie275]

Every now and then, my girlfriend will remind me that a few years before we met, when she was in her pre-teen emo stage, she and her friends were playing with a Ouija board. She says that when they asked who she would love, it spelled out T - S - M, which are my initials.

It strikes me that she would remember an instance like that years before she met you.
I forget so much crap like that, I wouldn't remember an outcome from a boardgame for years.

 

[blooagga]

Do not touch these things. they are evil.

 

[thaxceptional1]

dear mr. ouija, i want to know my future, will i die of murda? of bloody murrrdah?

 

[Crimson King]

Do not touch these things. they are evil.

They are no more evil than Monopoly or Sorry.

I can sit with one all night long calling Satan, Beelzebub, Cthulhu and nothing will happen. Why? Because it's just a game for fun.

 

[Tom]

It strikes me that she would remember an instance like that years before she met you.
I forget so much crap like that, I wouldn't remember an outcome from a boardgame for years.

I felt the same way, which is why I told her she was full of it.

@CK: Tread softly >>' Some people legitimately believe in this, and even though Christianity is far more popular, your comment still parallels calling the Bible the same as The Cat and the Hat. I doubt you'll offend anyone in this community, but isn't it better to be careful in practice? =/

 

[Crimson King]

No. I stand by my beliefs. It is ridiculous to call a toy something evil and dangerous. If you bible teaches you that, then you can learn more from Dr. Seuss.

Honestly, you'd give a board game that much power that it's revered?

 

[Tom]

No. I stand by my beliefs. It is ridiculous to call a toy something evil and dangerous. If you bible teaches you that, then you can learn more from Dr. Seuss.

Honestly, you'd give a board game that much power that it's revered?

Well, I don't have a bible, but I'm pretty sure we should be tolerant of others' beliefs. You're right in that we shouldn't give a board game power or revere it, but if people seriously believe in it, I'm not going to offend them if they aren't bothering me.

Now, I'm not too sure how many people believe in the Ouija Board as religious material, but if they do, I might as well not consider it a toy. They probably stand by their beliefs just as strongly as you do =x

 

[voittaa711]

At least the bible isn't sold at Toys R Us.....