The Official Weezing RTP

[shadydentist]

Pokemon Name: Weezing
National Pokedex Number: 110
Metagame Tier: OU
Ability: Levitate
Type: Poison
Base Stats:

-Hp: 65
-Attk: 90
-Def: 120
-Sp. Attk: 85
-Sp. Def: 70
-Spd: 60

MOVESETS:

Physical Wall/Supporter:
Bold/Impish Nature
Evs: 252 defense, 252 HP, 6 attack/sp. Attack.
Item: Black Sludge/Leftovers
Haze
Will-O-wisp
Pain Split
Sludge Bomb/Flamethrower/Thunderbolt/Shadow Ball/Explosion

This is the standard weezing. Haze and will-o-wisp do a good job of stopping enemy sweepers. Pain split to heal, and the last attack is basically filler, depending on who you fear most.

Super Counter:
Bold Nature
Evs: 252 HP, 188 def, 70 sp. Attack
Item: Black Sludge/Leftovers
Haze
Pain Split
Flamethrower/Fire Blast
Thunderbolt

This set isn't too different from the last one, but forgoes Will-o-wisp for the ability to counter a rather impressive list of OU threats. Thunderbolt stops gyarados, flamethrower/fire blast is for pesky Brelooms, Heracross, Skarmory, Metagross, Weavile, and Bronzong.

Special Attacker:
Relaxed Nature
Evs: 252 sp. Attack, 140 attack, 116 HP
Item: Black Sludge/Leftovers
Flamethrower/Fire Blast
Shadow Ball
Thunderbolt
Explosion

Pretty much a gimmick set, but it can surprise your opponents. Shadow ball is to predict switch ins like Azelf, Alakazam, Gardevoir, or Gengar who could otherwise ohko Weezing. Explosion when your opponent switches in Blissey. With these Evs, you have a decent shot at ohkoing her, especially if stealth rock/spikes are up. Choice specs are not recommended, because they limit your exploding ability.

COUNTERS
Any fast special sweeper spells trouble for Weezing. Blissey can safely switch into special sets with complete safety, save for the occasional explosion. Heatran eats Will-o-wisps and Flamethrowers with Flash Fire, and wrecks weezing with special attacks.

Summary:
Overall, weezing has remained relatively unchanged. With only one weakness, he makes an awesome physical wall, and can counter many physical threats. Furthermore, he has a great support movepool, lending your team another way to potentially cripple your opponent.

Movepool Physical:
Tackle
Assurance
Selfdestruct
Double Hit
Explosion
Frustration
Return
Payback
Giga Impact
Gyro Ball
Natural Gift

Movepool Special:
Smog
Sludge
Sludge Bomb
Hidden Power
Hyper Beam
Thunderbolt
Thunder
Shadow Ball
Shock Wave
Flamethrower
Fire Blast
Facade
Secret Power
Thief
Dark Pulse
Psywave
Psybeam


Movepool support:
Poison Gas
Smokescreen
Haze
Destiny Bond
Memento
Toxic
Sunny Day
Taunt
Protect
Rain Dance
Double Team
Torment
Rest
Attract
Endure
Will-o-wisp
Flash
Captivate
Sleep Talk
Swagger
Substitute
Screech
Pain Split
Grudge
Spite
Curse

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Good.
I think u should bold Dark Pulse, as it eliminates the only weakness Weezing has...psychics.

 

[Wii4Mii 99]

The standard is:

Weezing @ Black Sludge
Levitate
Bold
252 HP / 252 Def / 6 SpAtk
-Pain Split
-Will-O-Wisp
-Thunderbolt / Thunder
-Flamethrower / Fire Blast

Heatran is the best Weezing counter. It gobbles up Flamethrower and Will-O-Wisp, is resistant to Expolsion, is immune to Sludge Bomb, and has special Fire attacks to KO Weezing.

You need more counters in the counter section.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99

 

[ss118]

Natures are slightly important.

 

[shadydentist]

Oops, natures... i forgot. I'll add dark pulse, and mention heatran. As for counters... there are a lot of pokemon that can switch in and threaten with a special attack, so I'll only list some very common ones.

 

[mood4food77]

Weezing@black sludge
Impish
252 HP/176 DEF/68 SP. ATK/14 ATK
Will-o-Wisp
Pain Split
Flamethrower/Thunderbolt
Explosion


don't know the name of that set, but it works pretty darn good

 

[ss118]

How about a set that ISN'T on the smogon or serebii analysis?
How about a Grudge set?
It can use it to run out the PP on Blissey's Seismic Toss, allowing you to sweep with a CMing Raikou, for example.

 

[Wii4Mii 99]

How about a set that ISN'T on the smogon or serebii analysis?
How about a Grudge set?
It can use it to run out the PP on Blissey's Seismic Toss, allowing you to sweep with a CMing Raikou, for example.

How about a Curse set that can use Gyro Ball, Explosion, Assurance, Payback, and... that's about it. I know. Extremely limited.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99

 

[Shiri]

How about a set that ISN'T on the smogon or serebii analysis?
How about a Grudge set?
It can use it to run out the PP on Blissey's Seismic Toss, allowing you to sweep with a CMing Raikou, for example.

You, sir, are a rare find.

 

[ss118]

Is that a compliment?
;P
Weezing physical movepool is too small to consider: especially with his mediocre sp def to back up the def boosts
Anyway, I'll figure it out in a sec, but the Grudge set would need enough Sp. Def for a standard Blissey to not be able to break his subs, leaving Seismic toss as it's only option. Also blocks the incoming Status effects, and you could run W-o-W/ Toxic, along with Thunderbolt/Flamethrower.
Possibly Pain Split: I don't know, but I'm now determined to figure it out!
Shiri, we should smash sometime, I live in GA, too =O
Edit: would be better to use Taunt- anyone got an HP number so you end up with 100 HP after any number of seismic tosses, including Black Sludge recovery.

 

[shadydentist]

I didnt include curse because Weezings physical movepool is too limited to be able to pull it off. The grudge/sub idea sounds interesting, but weezing doesnt exactly make a great Blissey counter. Once I was down to Weezing vs Blissey, and I stalled out using mostly just haze, because it has 48 pp, and pain splitting when necessary.

 

[ss118]

Toxic, Pain Split, Taunt and Thunderbolt/Flamethrower could be used if you really fear Blissey walling you. I just thought that Grudging away a Blissey's Seismic Tosses would be benefitual to a subbing pokemon, perferably resistant to ice so the can stat up while they can't break you. I am going to use CM Raikou, again, as my example.
So far the set would go like this:
Weezing @ Black Sludge
Levitate: Bold/ Calm
{Described below} EVs
Thunderbolt
Will-o-Wisp/ Toxic/ Pain Split/ Substitute
Taunt/ Substitute
Grudge

Thunderbolt is required to take out Gyarados's. The 2nd slot is choosing a Status move, or for healing / status blocking. Taunt makes sure the opponent doesn't stat up on you- and forces Blisseys to atack instead of paralyze or heal. If u don't care about healing, sub could go here, too. Grudge takes out any move you don't like: Blissey's Seismic Tosses is a good example, or possibly a Garchomp's Outrage.

The EVs are going to be the difficult part, though. With Sub, you want to make sure that, after some subs, you will hit 100 HP SO the Blissey is forced to use Seismic toss to finish you off. You also have to include Black Sludge recovery and stuff. If ur using a sandstreamer/ Hailer, you can just bring it down to 300 so you'll die after 3 of them, and that's when you don't use Substitute.
Sp. Def needs to be enough so your subs(if ur using them) can survive 1(or even 2) Ice Beams from the "Standard" Blissey, which I believe uses 112 Sp. Atk on the smogon analysis. Anyway, make sure they HAVE to use Seismic toss. Leftover should be focused in defense so you can stil wall good.

I'm sorry, I don't have the attention span to figure out how to do the EV spread at the moment :/

 

[Shiri]

Actually...

If you run Thunderbolt on Weezing, I'd run Haze, too. That way, Electivire's Motor Boost switch-in (if it's there) can be nullified almost instantly.

Depending on what you want to try to counter, I run Fire Blast for burns on those Pokémon I could try to wall but just can't KO back with that wall (Weezing, in this case). Trust me, after a few hits you eventually get it, so I think it's worthwhile if you fight a lot of physical attackers.

 

[ss118]

I don't believe Haze stops ability boosts like unburden, Flash Fire, and Motor Boost.
And this se isn't "final" ye, there's work to be done

 

[Shiri]

Haze does not stop Flash Fire.

It does, however, cancel out Unburden, Motor Drive...anything that boosts a stat.

The reason it doesn't cancel Flash Fire is because those abilities boost types of moves (i.e., elements) and not stats themselves.

Trust me, stat boosting abilities are just like stat boosting moves. In the same way you can Haze a Gyarados' Intimidate, you can Haze these abilities.