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The Official Gyarados RTP

Wii4Mii 99

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Name: Gyarados
National Pokedex Number: 130
Metagame Tier: OU (Overused)
Ability: Intimidate
Type: Water/Flying
Base Stats:

-HP: 95
-Attk: 125
-Def: 79
-Sp. Attk: 60
-Sp. Def: 100
-Spd: 81

MOVESETS

Moveset Name: DDGyara
Nature: Adamant
Item: Leftovers / Life Orb
EVs: 76 HP / 252 Attk / 180 Spd

Move 1: Dragon Dance
Move 2: Waterfall / Aqua Tail
Move 3: Earthquake
Move 4: Ice Fang / Stone Edge / Return

DDGyara is a huge physical threat to any team. Once Gyarados DDs 2-3 times, it's in sweeping position. Only Surskit resists Water/Ground/Ice. After one DD, you hit 364 Speed, outspeeding Starmie, Raikou, and Azelf at 361. You can use Stone Edge over Ice Fang, as then, only defensive Grass types like Tangrowth, Leafeon and Celebi have a chance at walling you. Stone Edge can also KO those other Gyarados and Salamence, but then you lose the ability to KO Garchomp. Return gets special mention, as Waterfall / Aqua Tail and Return hit all Pokemon for at least neutral damage except for three: Empoleon, Shedinja and Dialga.

Aqua Tail VS. Waterfall

Aqua Tail has 90 base power and 90 accuracy. Waterfall has 80 base power, but 100 accuracy. Waterfall may also make the target flinch. It's up to you, whether you want more power or more hitting.

Moveset Name: BulkyGyara
Nature: Adamant
Item: Leftovers
EVs: 212 HP / 16 Attk / 180 Def / 100 Spd

Move 1: Dragon Dance
Move 2: Taunt
Move 3: Earthquake
Move 4: Waterfall / Ice Fang

Ground/Ice is good coverage, but if your team can otherwise handle Salamence and Garchomp, you can use Waterfall over Ice Fang.

This Gyarados is designed to switch into physical threats like Heracross and Garchomp. Since they can do little damage to you (thanks to Intimidate), they will switch. Then, you try to predict what will come out, and use Taunt or an attacking move accordingly. If you think something like Starmie, a faster Pokemon that threatens a KO, is coming, use Earthquake. If you think something like Dusknoir, a defensive, status-giving Pokemon, is coming, use Taunt. Use Dragon Dance at times between that, when you get the chance.

The EVs give Gyarados 384 HP, allowing for maximum Leftovers recovery. After a DD, Gyarados hits 334 Speed, outspeeding Jolly Garchomp. The EVs in Defense allow Gyarados to survive more physical attacks from the physical attackers it's supposed to switch in to.

Moveset Name: CBGyara
Nature: Adamant
Item: Choice Band
EVs: 76 HP / 252 Attk / 180 Spd

Move 1: Waterfall / Aqua Tail
Move 2: Earthquake
Move 3: Ice Fang
Move 4: Stone Edge

This time, Surskit gets KOed by Stone Edge. Anyways, this is Choice Banded Gyarados. The move variety means no Pokemon is resistant to all 4 moves.

Moveset Name: GyaraSpecs (Note: Gimmick Set)
Nature: Modest
Item: Choice Specs
EVs: 76 HP / 252 Sp. Attk / 180 Spd

Move 1: Surf / Hydro Pump
Move 2: Flamethrower / Fire Blast
Move 3: Thunderbolt / Thunder
Move 4: Ice Beam / Blizzard

A Gimmick Gyarados set. Gyarados' Special Attack stat hits an incredible 360, which allows sweeping. You can choose the weaker but more accurate, or stronger but less accurate, attack from each type.

COUNTERS

Basically, any Pokemon that has Thunderbolt and outspeeds Gyarados or can survive one of it's attacks is a good counter.

Starmie is a decent counter to all the sets. It can outspeed and Thunderbolt before Gyarados starts sweeping with Dragon Dance. Starmie resists Waterfall and Ice Fang, has good defenses, and has access to Recover. Bold, defensively EVed Porygon2 and Gardevoir can switch in, Intimidate it back, and threaten a KO with Thunderbolt. Bold Cresselia with Charge Beam can also work, and Uxie and Mespirit to lesser extents, although Uxie and Mespirit do get Thunderbolt over Charge Beam.

Defensive Tangrowth and Leafeon can survive some Ice Fangs and do some damage in return with Power Whip/Leaf Blade. HP Electric Slowbro can take Gyarados' hits and use HP Electric for the KO.

Gyarados counters Gyarados with Stone Edge. Salamence has Stone Edge and can switch into anything that's not Stone Edge or Ice Fang.

CONTENT SECTION

Gyarados is a powerful physical threat that can take some hits and dish them out as well. Anything not using an Electric, Rock, or boosted attack will have trouble taking down Gyarados.

A common tactic Gyarados users use is to have Gyarados and Electivire on the same team. Gyarados attracts Electric attacks, so if you predict one on Gyarados, you can switch to Electivire, who's Motor Drive will activate and allow sweeping. Jolteon with Volt Absorb also works.

Movepool Physical

Thrash
Bite
Ice Fang
Aqua Tail

Frustration
Earthquake
Return

Facade
Secret Power
Payback
Giga Impact
Stone Edge
Avalanche
Natural Gift
Strength
Rock Smash
Waterfall
Tackle
Flail

Movepool Special

Dragon Rage
Twister
Hydro Pump
Hyper Beam
Water Pulse
Hidden Power
Ice Beam
Blizzard
Thunderbolt
Thunder
Flamethrower
Fire Blast
Brine
Dragon Pulse
Dark Pulse
Surf

Movepool Support

Leer
Rain Dance
Dragon Dance
Roar
Toxic
Hail
Taunt
Rest
Endure
Thunder Wave
Sleep Talk
Substitute
 

Metadour-2

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guess who did a good job?
YOU DID!
ha!
Chill just gave me the word, i'm off to do the Garchomp RTP.
I would have gave you the notes from last time lol, but you're already done!
Bravo I say.

Look foward to chompy.
 

mood4food77

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metadour...just wondering, it's been annoying me

in your second team...why is there a meganium, i mean, the rest of the pokes in that team are really good but meganium...WHY OUT OF ALL POKES DO YOU USE MEGANIUM

it's just a simple question


and are we supposed to rate gyarados

i'd give him an 8/10
 

Chill

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You should only be posting here if you have a correction or contribution to add to the RTP.

In the DDGya set you list stone edge over ice fange but don't list why until the counter section. You should mention it in the set comments also.

Thunderwave should be in bold I think. The ability to halve your opponents speed and decrease their chance of striking is pretty important.
 

Metadour-2

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because OU junkies are really annoying me.
And it's increadibly annoying how all the pokemon i like are ou.

but at the same time, it's really annoying how people don't like pokemon because they're good.
So what if it's ou? sheesh.

And meganium makes me happy.
Now, we're supposed to be discussing garchomp, are we not?
I believe my vice president deserves praise for all the work he's done.

PRAISE HIM! NOW!
 

Wii4Mii 99

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because OU junkies are really annoying me.
And it's increadibly annoying how all the pokemon i like are ou.

but at the same time, it's really annoying how people don't like pokemon because they're good.
So what if it's ou? sheesh.

And meganium makes me happy.
Now, we're supposed to be discussing garchomp, are we not?
I believe my vice president deserves praise for all the work he's done.

PRAISE HIM! NOW!
I don't know if you and Chill went over things, but this is a Gyarados RTP. Wii're not supposed to talk about Garchomp. Or Meganium, for that matter.

mood4food and Metadour, you should discuss Meganium's use over PMs. And Garchomp discussion should go on the Garchomp RTP.

OK, Chill. I'll add that stuff.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99
 
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ooh. how bout the gimmicky gyaraspecs
gyarados
modest
lifeorb/choicespecs
evs
252 spattck/rest is your choice
thunder
fireblast
hydropump
blizzard

the only thing that stinks about it is its 60 base spatck

by the way wii4mii, you missspelled base(bast)
 

Wii4Mii 99

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ooh. how bout the gimmicky gyaraspecs
gyarados
modest
lifeorb/choicespecs
evs
252 spattck/rest is your choice
thunder
fireblast
hydropump
blizzard

the only thing that stinks about it is its 60 base spatck

by the way wii4mii, you missspelled base(bast)
I added the Gyaraspecs as a gimmick set and will fix my spelling error.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99
 

Metadour-2

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See, tyraniboah?
Useful.
It was surpising and had base 90 SA.
Not bad.
Chain Chomp?
Base 80 plus STAB.
Not bad.

Gyarados?
Even with specs dude, that is odd.
And the accuracy of those moves are pitiful, so unless it's with a No guard Machamp, it seems rather...novelty.
But if it does hit for 360, I suppose it's worth a shot.
All for the people.
BTW has anyone ever used that set (successfully?)
I'd like to know.
 

mood4food77

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can he get the lesser versions of those moves

like could he run:

modest
252/252/6 (sp.atk/spd/whatev)
specs
flamethrower
surf
ice beam
thunderbolt

cause then i could see it work
 

Shiri

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Thunderwave should be in bold I think. The ability to halve your opponents speed and decrease their chance of striking is pretty important.
:yoshi: Paralysis reduces speed by 75%, not 50%.
 

ss118

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You should make a mention how Return and Waterfall makes the games best attacking combination, which is resisted by only 2 pokemon: Empoleon and Shedinja.
 

Wii4Mii 99

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You should make a mention how Return and Waterfall makes the games best attacking combination, which is resisted by only 2 pokemon: Empoleon and Shedinja.
And Dialga.

I'll add it anyways, and I'll change the Gyarados pics to actual pics instead of sprites.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99
 

ss118

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You should have a Flail set.
Like

Gyarados @ Salac/Liechi Berry
Intimidate: Adamant/Jolly
4 HP, 252 Atk, 252 Spd
Dragon Dance
Flail
Waterfall
Substitute/Endure

Just a thought
 
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