That Was Easy! - Ness's True Combos

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Ness's True Combos
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Welcome! This thread is the place to find all of Ness's guaranteed combos. Whether you're a new Ness player trying to get used to his combos or you're a seasoned Ness main looking for more optimal punishes, this is the place to be.

To begin with, this thread will have all of the combos I'm aware of and can perform consistently, a rough estimate of the %s they start and end at and the amount of damage they do. As time goes on, I'd like to update the thread with the exact %s they start and end at for every character, which characters they work on and which ones they don't, how DI affects the combos and how rage affects them, too. Eventually, I'd also like to add videos/GIFs of the combo to show players how to perform them (preferably in training mode so we can confirm it's a true combo), so that will either happen when I get a capture card or get submissions from anyone on these boards that has one already.

If you'd like to get another combo added to this list, post the combo and what % it starts and ends at in the comments. If other Ness mains can verify that it works (or you post a video of it), I'll add it to the list.

Please note all of the combos below were tested on Captain Falcon in training mode (no rage and no DI), so in an actual match they may work for a longer or shorter period of time (or not work at all) depending on the situation.

Throws

Combo | Starts | Ends | Damage
Down throw > Neutral air | 0% | 65% | 18%
Down throw > Forward air | 0% | 80% | 14%
Down throw > Forward air > Neutral air | 0% | 35% | 25%
Down throw > Forward air > Forward air | 5% | 50% | 21%
Down throw > Forward air > Forward air > Forward air | 20% | 30% | 28%
Down throw > Forward air > Up air | 20% | 40% | 27%
Down throw > Back air | 25% | 70% | 22%
Down throw > Up air | 20% | 70% | 20%

Ground attacks

Combo | Starts | Ends | Damage
Up tilt > Up tilt | 10% | 30% | 14%
Up tilt > Up air | 30% | 60% | 20%
Up tilt > Neutral air | 25% | 45% | 18%
Down tilt (trip) > Jab | 0% | >500% | 12%
Down tilt (trip) > Forward tilt | 0% | >500% | 14%
Down tilt (trip) > Up tilt | 0% | >500% | 11%
Down tilt (trip) > Down tilt | 0% | >500% | 8%
Down tilt (trip) > Neutral air | 0% | >500% | 15%
Down tilt (trip) > Forward air | 0% | >500% | 11%
Down tilt (trip) > Back air | 0% | >500% | 19%
Down tilt (trip) > Up air | 0% | >500% | 17%
Down tilt (trip) > Down air | 0% | >500% | 14%
Down tilt (trip) > Up smash | 0% | >500% | 13%
Down tilt (trip) > Forward smash | 0% | >500% | 22%
Down tilt (trip) > Down smash | 0% | >500% | 16%
Down tilt (trip) > PK Fire | 0% | >500% | 26%
Down tilt (trip) > PK Thunder | 0% | >500% | 13%
Dash attack > Neutral air | 0% | 30% | 21%
Dash attack > Forward air | 0% | 30% | 17%
Dash attack > Back air | 0% | 20% | 25%
Dash attack > Up air | 0% | 40% | 23%

Aerials

Combo | Starts | Ends | Damage
Up air > Jab | 5% | 25% | 21%
Up air > Forward tilt | 10% | 25% | 22-23%
Up air > Up tilt | 10% | 35% | 20%
Up air > Up tilt > Neutral air | 10% | 15% | 31%
Up air > Down tilt | 5% | 15% | 17%
Up air > Neutral air | 15% | 50% | 24%
Up air > Forward air | 25% | 60% | 20%
Up air > Back air | 15% | 60% | 28%
Up air > Up air | 25% | 65% | 26%
Up air > Up smash | 5% | 40% | 22-26%
Up air > Down smash | 15% | 30% | 25%

Specials

Combo | Starts | Ends | Damage
PK Flash (fully charged) > Up tilt | 0% | 40% | 44%
PK Flash (fully charged) > Neutral air | 0% | 25% | 48%
PK Flash (fully charged) > Forward air | 0% | 25% | 44%
PK Flash (fully charged) > Back air | 0% | 25% | 52%
PK Flash (fully charged) > Up air | 0% | 30% | 50%
PK Flash (fully charged) > Down air | 0% | 20% | 49%
PK Flash (fully charged) > PK Fire | 0% | 15% | 39-59%
PK Flash (fully charged) > PK Thunder | 0% | 35% | 45%
PK Flash (uncharged) > Up tilt | 50% | 115% | 16%
PK Flash (uncharged) > Up air | 95% | 165% | 22%
PK Flash (uncharged) > Up smash | 45% | 130% | 22%

 

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View attachment 85587 Ness's True Combos​

Welcome! This thread is the place to find all of Ness's guaranteed combos. Whether you're a new Ness player trying to get used to his combos or you're a seasoned Ness main looking for more optimal punishes, this is the place to be. To begin with, this thread will have all of the combos I'm aware of and can perform consistently, a rough estimate of the %s they start and end at and the amount of damage they do. As time goes on, I'd like to update the thread with the exact %s they start and end at for every character, which characters they work on and which ones they don't, how DI affects the combos and how rage affects them, too. Eventually, I'd also like to add videos/GIFs of the combo to show players how to perform them (preferably in training mode so we can confirm it's a true combo), so that will either happen when I get a capture card or get submissions from anyone on these boards that has one already. If you'd like to get another combo added to this list, post the combo and what % it starts and ends at in the comments. If other Ness mains can verify that it works (or you post a video of it), I'll add it to the list. Please note all of the combos below were tested on Captain Falcon in training mode (no rage and no DI), so in an actual match they may work for a longer or shorter period of time (or not work at all) depending on the situation. Throws

Combo | Starts | Ends | Damage Down throw > Neutral air | 0% | 65% | 18% Down throw > Forward air | 0% | 80% | 14% Down throw > Forward air > Neutral air | 0% | 35% | 25% Down throw > Forward air > Forward air | 5% | 50% | 21% Down throw > Forward air > Forward air > Forward air | 20% | 30% | 28% Down throw > Forward air > Up air | 20% | 40% | 27% Down throw > Back air | 25% | 70% | 22% Down throw > Up air | 20% | 70% | 20%

Ground attacks

Combo | Starts | Ends | Damage Up tilt > Up tilt | 10% | 30% | 14% Up tilt > Up air | 30% | 60% | 20% Up tilt > Neutral air | 25% | 45% | 18% Down tilt (trip) > Jab | 0% | >500% | 12% Down tilt (trip) > Forward tilt | 0% | >500% | 14% Down tilt (trip) > Up tilt | 0% | >500% | 11% Down tilt (trip) > Down tilt | 0% | >500% | 8% Down tilt (trip) > Neutral air | 0% | >500% | 15% Down tilt (trip) > Forward air | 0% | >500% | 11% Down tilt (trip) > Back air | 0% | >500% | 19% Down tilt (trip) > Up air | 0% | >500% | 17% Down tilt (trip) > Down air | 0% | >500% | 14% Down tilt (trip) > Up smash | 0% | >500% | 13% Down tilt (trip) > Forward smash | 0% | >500% | 22% Down tilt (trip) > Down smash | 0% | >500% | 16% Down tilt (trip) > PK Fire | 0% | >500% | 26% Down tilt (trip) > PK Thunder | 0% | >500% | 13% Dash attack > Neutral air | 0% | 30% | 21% Dash attack > Forward air | 0% | 30% | 17% Dash attack > Back air | 0% | 20% | 25% Dash attack > Up air | 0% | 40% | 23%

Aerials

Combo | Starts | Ends | Damage Up air > Jab | 5% | 25% | 21% Up air > Forward tilt | 10% | 25% | 23% Up air > Up tilt | 10% | 35% | 20% Up air > Up tilt > Neutral air | 10% | 15% | 31% Up air > Down tilt | 5% | 15% | 17% Up air > Neutral air | 15% | 50% | 24% Up air > Forward air | 25% | 60% | 20% Up air > Back air | 15% | 60% | 28% Up air > Up air | 25% | 65% | 26% Up air > Up smash | 5% | 40% | 26% Up air > Down smash | 15% | 30% | 25%

Specials

Combo | Starts | Ends | Damage PK Flash (fully charged) > Up tilt | 0% | 40% | 44% PK Flash (fully charged) > Neutral air | 0% | 25% | 48% PK Flash (fully charged) > Forward air | 0% | 25% | 44% PK Flash (fully charged) > Back air | 0% | 25% | 52% PK Flash (fully charged) > Up air | 0% | 30% | 50% PK Flash (fully charged) > Down air | 0% | 20% | 49% PK Flash (fully charged) > PK Thunder | 0% | 35% | 45% PK Flash (uncharged) > Up tilt | 50% | 115% | 16% PK Flash (uncharged) > Up air | 95% | 165% | 22% PK Flash (uncharged) > Up smash | 45% | 130% | 22%

 

[Kodystri]

Why does everyone test on Falcon? he is very unique to his style. he gets comboed easy so ofc things will work much better on him.

 

[XCounter]

Why does everyone test on Falcon? he is very unique to his style. he gets comboed easy so ofc things will work much better on him.

You just answered your own question lmao. If something works, it'll work on him.

As I said, I'll be updating the thread with the characters certain combos do and do not work on anyway.

 

[Kodystri]

You just answered your own question lmao. If something works, it'll work on him.

As I said, I'll be updating the thread with the characters certain combos do and do not work on anyway.

But Mario for example. Utilt works on Falcon till 40-50% while it works on Ness till 12%. I am just saying Falcon isnt reliable to test combos. try another character like Mario or Sonic, who represents majority of the cast. There are a few outliers like Jigglypuff and Bowser, but those two are good at escaping combos.

 

[Xermo]

Falcon definitely isn't the most reliable character to test on.

 

[ATATA]

Of course, combos will start and end at different percents for all characters, either way, I don't feel like this as to be perfect, right? As long as we know the combo and its basic percent range.

 

[2xTheTap]

One small nitpick: you have the same true combo listed twice. PK Flash (fully charged) > Neutral air

 

[sthentai]

Up air > grab
Starts:0%
Ends:20%
Works on all the cast, but floaties end % is a bit lower. This can also combo into any grab setup true combos such as
Grab > Nair
Grab > fair
Grab > uair

 

[Kathuzada]

In the discord group people have mentioned Dthrow>Fair>Uair>Uair

 

[ATATA]

In the discord group people have mentioned Dthrow>Fair>Uair>Uair

I heard about that too, it only works if they di in, which is never a good idea to do, so it will never work on good players pretty much. Unless they're doing a weird mixup.

 

[Kathuzada]

I heard about that too, it only works if they di in, which is never a good idea to do, so it will never work on good players pretty much. Unless they're doing a weird mixup.

Yeah, but is still True