Teh Wii U, it costs so much..

[MarioAnIke]

I'm just one of those people who doesn't have a Wii U, so please tell me all the positives and negatives about it.

 

[Jumpman84]

You can get a limited edition for $300 and it comes with a digital copy of The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker HD as well as a digital version of Hyrule Historia. The Game Pad also features custom Zelda designs on it.

Plus, next year you can play Smash 4 on it.

 

[Morbi]

I'm just one of those people who doesn't have a Wii U, so please tell me all the positives and negatives about it.

I don't know. I called it a glorified Wii. I honestly wish I held off on buying one. I just use it to play Wii games because my Wii broke. It seems to have some performance issues playing Smash. For instance, I would never lag in Mushroomy Kingdom. However, It lags like crazy on my Wii U. There aren't really many games out on it that I am even interested in. Hopefully some good games come out Q4 this year and Q1 next year. I will probably get Mario Bros Wii U 3D or whatever. Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze. Obviously the console sellers will be later next year like Mario Kart and Smash 4. I haven't really had the necessary experience to properly answer the question. I haven't looked into it too much, but people are saying that the specs are barely better than a Ps3/Xbox 360. So it is like owning a current gen console... next gen!

If you are really looking forward to first party games coming out, go ahead and buy a Wii U whenever the next game you want comes out. So if Smash is all you are looking forward to, buy a Wii U then. Don't buy it early like I did. It is just collecting dust.

If you don't like a lot of games that are Nintendo, so if you aren't looking forward to the new Mario or DK, maybe the new Zelda. Don't get a Wii U. Save yourself some money and get a console that plays games. There is not a lot of 3rd party support on the Wii U. I think Call of Duty is about it. Obviously that is hyperbole, close enough though. If you like to play a variety of games, get a Ps4 or an Xbox One... or better yet, a PC!

The Next Gen WILL LEAVE THE WII U IN THE DUST. All caps for emphasis. If you are looking forward to games like Destiny, they won't be on Wii U. 3 years from now, almost nothing will be on the Wii U. The tech is going to evolve and you are going to be stuck with a console that only plays Nintendo games.

However, it is a great supplemental console. Get a Ps4/Xbox for every other game. When you scrape up some extra cash, get a Wii U. They won't be too expensive in a year from now.

Actually... if Smash is the only game you are looking forward to, get a 3DS.

 

[MarioAnIke]

You can get a limited edition for $300 and it comes with a digital copy of The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker HD as well as a digital version of Hyrule Historia. The Game Pad also features custom Zelda designs on it.

Plus, next year you can play Smash 4 on it.

The deluxe set already costs $300 because of the 2ds...

Actually... if Smash is the only game you are looking forward to, get a 3DS.

I have a 3Ds, but the R button doesn't work. I WANT NEW SUPER LUIGI U SO BADLY!!!!!

 

[8-peacock-8]

So many posts.

 

[MarioAnIke]

So many posts.

Thanks...

 

[Amazing Ampharos]

The Wii U is just the next generation of Nintendo platform designed to be bought by people who like playing Nintendo games. For $300 you get a digital copy of WWHD with it (which from what I've seen is a VASTLY improved version of Wind Waker; the Swift Sail alone fixes so many of that game's problems), and it has a smallish library so far but has more coming. I can tell you that New Super Mario Brothers U, New Super Luigi U, Pikmin 3, and the Wonderful 101 are all quality titles (the last of those is the best game of the lot by the way; Wonderful 101 is a very aptly named game). Sonic Lost World and Super Mario 3d World are potentially solid titles coming out later this year, and next year we know Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze, Mario Kart 8, Smash U, and X (Monolith Soft jRPG, probable Xenoblade sequel) are coming out. In terms of multi-platforms, the Wii U also offers you the best versions of Sonic All Stars Racing Transformed and Rayman Legends. I haven't played the latter, but I can tell you that the former is a pretty solid kart racer though more in the vein of Diddy Kong Racing than Mario Kart if you had to classify it.

As per the console wars, you just have to be straight about it. Relatively few quality third party titles come to Nintendo platforms, but Nintendo makes so many good first party titles that their libraries always end up competitive with other platforms anyway. Unlike the other two which have extraordinarily overlapping libraries, Nintendo is mostly exclusives too since most of their stuff is first party. I think this generation will be like last generation for me; I'll get most of what I want out of Nintendo's platform, but I'll be picking up one of the other platforms just to play stuff that's not on Nintendo's platform. Depending on your tastes in games, this may or may not make sense for you.

As per the performance playing Wii games, I've messed around with the Wii U and Brawl, and my experience is that it runs nearly identically but that it loads a little bit faster (not a lot, just a little). Running it through the HDMI, it seems to upscale the game somewhat which causes the pre-rendered videos (especially obvious on the ones for clearing classic and all star) to look kinda bad, but the rest of the game looks pretty good and maybe even a little better than I'm used to (to be fair, I'm used to playing Brawl on an old SDTV so HD at all is unusual for me). I certainly haven't seen performance issues in the Mushroomy Kingdom which isn't even a very resource intensive stage; could you have a scratch on your disc or something? Depending on your settings on your Wii U for output resolution and the quality of your display, it could be TV/monitor induced lag as well.

 

[MarioAnIke]

Sonic R is a broken game and should never be released on Virtual Console. I don't know why I said that..

I'm pretty positive I'm going to get the Wii U with the details you guys have given me. Thanks.

 

[Networker1]

Ok, since others have mentioned the small library, I'll outline some quality titles here:

• New Super M Bros. U
• New Super Luigi U*
• Munster hunter 3: Ultimate*
• Batman Arkham city: Armored Edition
• Pikmin 3
• Wonderful 101
• Sonic all-stars Racing: Transformed**
• The Wind Waker HD***

Plus there are a handful of other smash hits coming out over the next couple of months, as well as the unannounced Zelda and Metroid games some time in the future.

*Have not played
**Have only played demo
***Played the original

Edit: I should also point out that the Wii U is $300 as opposed to the other 2 consoles, which sell for $500.

 

[MarioAnIke]

Ok, since others have mentioned the small library, I'll outline some quality titles here:

• New Super M Bros. U
• New Super Luigi U*
• Munster hunter 3: Ultimate*
• Batman Arkham city: Armored Edition
• Pikmin 3
• Wonderful 101
• Sonic all-stars Racing: Transformed**
• The Wind Waker HD***

Plus there are a handful of other smash hits coming out over the next couple of months, as well as the unannounced Zelda and Metroid games some time in the future.


*Have not played
**Have only played demo
***Played the original

Edit: I should also point out that the Wii U is $300 as opposed to the other 2 consoles, which sell for $500.

Taking all games from your library,
* New Super Mario Bros. U
**New Super Luigi U
***MH3U
*** Batman
**Pikmin 3
***101
**Sonic Racing Game
**Wind Waker HD


*played the demo

**want

***don't care about

 

[Networker1]

Taking all games from your library,
* New Super Mario Bros. U
**New Super Luigi U
***MH3U
*** Batman
**Pikmin 3
***101
**Sonic Racing Game
**Wind Waker HD


*played the demo

**want

***don't care about

Really, no Monster Hunter? MH3:U was said to be one of the best games on Wii U before Pikmin and 101 came out. And don't discount 101 because it looks kiddy, it is actually a difficult action game.

 

[MarioAnIke]

Really, no Monster Hunter? MH3:U was said to be one of the best games on Wii U before Pikmin and 101 came out. And don't discount 101 because it looks kiddy, it is actually a difficult action game.

I know about 101, I checked the rating.

 

[moneyfrenzy]

look up 5 reasons to buy a wii u by attackingtucans

 

[DakotaBonez]

PROS
DONT HAVE TO PAY FOR ONLINE

Nintendoland is too good. Like... really good. Although I can understand it losing some appeal if ya don't have 3 or 4 friends to hang out with. Unfortunately there's no online. Nintendoland has to be the first thing ya experience on the wii u. Really shows what makes the system so innovative.

I originally bought the wii u for ZombiU, but everyone has their own tastes. Its a really hardcore game.
Tekken Tag 2 is cool because ya can play online and ya don't need the tv, ya can play the game just on the gamepad screen, which is a feature all wii u games should have. Also, its tekken.

Mainly I use the console as an awesome web browsing tool. I'm posting this from the gamepad while listening to a youtube vid thats playin on the tv. The internet browser is amazing. The touchscreen makes typing fast. You can have six tabs open and play mp4s. Watchin cartoons online at night on the gamepad screen is awesome.

CONS


At the moment nintendo is workin on gettin its online sh$# together. No telling how it'll match up to the service ya have to pay for on ps4 and xbone. But at the moment nintendo doesn't really have a complete online infrastructure like the ps3 and xbox360, so ya can't invite friends to a game unless developers program some workaround like a code sharing system like in tekken. And then ya gotta tell it to a friend on miiverse, which ya gotta pause the game to get to.
I'm really worried about the online but nintendo's promised big things with the firmware update comin sometime in fall. We'll just have to wait and see how it turns out.

Cant play DVD, cant play MP3s, no cross game chat.

 

[nat pagle]

PROS
DONT HAVE TO PAY FOR ONLINE

You mean the online that doesn't exist for many games that have multiplayer?

 

[Stompman]

I can also recommend ZobmiU, actually, if you want online multiplayer, start with that and Sonic Racing transformed, both are solid games and you can get them cheap online. I actually like the gameplay in SRT more than Mario Kart Wii.

I can also highly recommend Earthbound on the WiiU Virtual Console. I have the original cartridge, but I love the game so much that I also downloaded it for the WiiU. If you like RPGs, and haven't played Earthbound, give it a try.

 

[liets]

i hate when someone wants to know something about something even remotely nintendo and it turns into a console war arguement I:/

 

[Arteen]

Positive: It plays Super Smash Bros in HD.

 

[I_hate_usernames]

If you think the WiiU is expensive have a thought for us Aussies/NZers which haven't had a single price drop on the WiiU since release!

 

[κomıc]

If you think the WiiU is expensive have a thought for us Aussies/NZers which haven't had a single price drop on the WiiU since release!

I thought a store in Australia had Wii U and several Nintendo products on clearance. I saw it for like $200.

 

[I_hate_usernames]

I thought a store in Australia had Wii U and several Nintendo products on clearance. I saw it for like $200.

Clearance isn't Nintendo giving out specials, I know several retail chains putting the WiiU on clearance because of lack of demand, and lack of backing by Nintendo.

I'm a huge Nintendo fan, but they gotta start pulling their fingers out and really start backing this console! Especailly now that the window of oppourunity has been squandered now Sony ans M$ are releasing their consoles.

 

[Morbi]

i hate when someone wants to know something about something even remotely nintendo and it turns into a console war arguement I:/

The honest truth is that I will not recommend an inferior system that won't hold up to the Ps4/Xbox One in 2 or 3 years. They will be on a totally different level. The gap will be even bigger than the Wii to the Ps3/360. Some of the 3rd party games coming out to the Wii U wont be coming out to the Wii U with its next installment. It might even reach the point that Call of Duty decides to pull out and not put it on the Wii U. That would be pathetic. I don't necessarily want to start a console war. I want to save money. I already wasted my money on the Wii U. It will pay off once some of the games I want come out. I bought mine before the price drop though.

If anybody here is reading. Don't buy the Wii U prematurely. Wait until the game you want comes out, and buy it then. I assume most people here are waiting for Smash. So if you aren't really interested in any other games, I would buy the Wii U the week before Smash. Hopefully the price drops again by then. I am pretty sure that once the Ps4 and Xbox One start sucking sales away that Nintendo will have to drop the price. It is inevitable.

Edit: About the lag on Mushroomy Kingdom, I don't know why it happens. It didn't happen on my Wii with the same set-up. It doesn't happen with any other game I own using the same TV. I have all consoles, and play a lot of games. Usually when lag like that happens, it is game specific. Like a portion of the game. I suspect it is because the game loads all of the blocks individually. I should specify. It only happens in the underground variant. Maybe it doesn't universally happen. It has left a bad taste in my mouth though.

 

[nat pagle]

Guess I'll actually weigh in:

1.) Cowboom. Best Buy's company for all the scratched, returned, etc. items they have. 3DS XL sells for $135 at a grade 6 (GREAT condition) and a Wii U is like $200. With free shipping.

2.) Wii U isn't worth it. And I'll tell you why:

a.) It's more similar to the Nintendo 64 and Gamecube in structure, focuses, and marketing than the Wii's ironically enough. The Gamecube and n64 were both inferior in sales compared to the other consoles of their generations and the former despite its hardware specs that beat PS2.​

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Why's this? Well, it's because Nintendo tried to give its console a unique feel while trying to make the most out of part of what the generation had to offer. Nintendo 64 had a much more complex controller and four player multiplayer and the Gamecube had great graphics and a vastly improved controller. At the same time though, they tried to make the consoles unique at the expense of not having a CD/DVD player or by refraining from using DVD discs.​

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How's this relate to the Wii U? And why did the Wii not fit under this plan? Well, the Wii is what Nintendo did right with their creativity. They made something so unique, so individual, and so apart from what MS and Sony offered in the 360 and PS3 while still giving a gaming experience to families that it was able to carve itself into the family market distinctly, not just the kiddie corner. They did NOT go for the great graphics, they did NOT go for a controller like 360 or PS3, they did NOT try to hype anything PS3 or 360 already offered. The Wii was sold on the point of a motion controller unheard of by any other company, exactly why it was named the Revolution. A complete turn around from the Gamecube's similarity to the PS2 and Xbox as a console.​

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Now on to the Wii U. Nintendo really just tried to ride the hype of the Wii's name and failed to use the same strategy of console uniqueness that made the Wii what it was. Firstly, the Wii U feels like a step back to traditional console gaming, analog sticks, trigger buttons, and holding it in two hands similar to a PS4 or Xbox One controller. Games have less motion uniqueness to them, and it feels so much like the rest of the crew instead of like the Wii and its motion-heavy controls.​

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Second, it focuses more on how the Gamecube functioned in relation to other consoles, HD graphics, the controller, and what other companies frankly provide, but better. And it brought back the gimmicks that are the selling points of the console but just don't do it justice as they always restrict it more than make it individual. Lacking touch screen controls, an underdeveloped online multiplayer platform AND library of games than will actually support it, and controller options that just aren't strong enough.​

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b.) Nintendo is feeling the sting of a more online youth. Kids are playing Minecraft and games like that which allow online play more than ever. And adults expect more out of the technology they buy, everything's moving towards allowing connectivity as opposed to limitations. And limited is exactly what the Wii U feels like.​

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Nintendo simply takes the narrative of limited console strength into the realm of the games. On the Gamecube, they got away with no online because it was in its baby stages in consoles. In the Wii, the console was so unique and distinctive, and focusing ON THAT DISTINCTIVE FEATURE, that online was able to slide. But in the Wii U, they don't have the Wii's staple individuality to fall back on and are now trying to fight for console superiority in the realms that PS4 and Xbox One dominate as consoles like controller, graphics, online functions, etc, which translates to online wars.​

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The Wii U just feels like the other consoles so much, but Nintendo brought its curse to one of the worst possible areas of next gen online gaming, online. Arbitrarily restricting online gameplay just doesn't fly anymore. People don't see why online is so detrimental to the game, while they know restricting it solely alienates certain people.​

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And overall, they get fed up because Nintendo reverted back to their old console ways and just say FORGET IT! And buy a 3DS, because Nintendo always does well with the handheld market.​

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3.) That huge controller costs a lot to make.

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[Renji64]

The WiiU is fantastic but if you like third party it can't be your primary console. I already got one but waiting to get a secondary maybe a pc.

 

[I_hate_usernames]

Don't know about the gamecube, but the N64 was a pretty successful platform for it's time!

 

[nat pagle]

Don't know about the gamecube, but the N64 was a pretty successful platform for it's time!

http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/Nintendo_64

Roughly 33 million units in its lifetime. And it had well over 6 million in sales after a year (they only go by fiscal year which ends 3 months before n64's anniversary). The Wii U had about 3.8 million units sold as of June and probably is somewhere around 5 million right now.

So, the Wii U is roughly on the n64's sales schedule so to speak. But the n64 was released a year and a half after the PS1. So the Wii U is in theory on the same rate of sales despite having no next gen competition.

http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/PlayStation_1

Playstation had 88 million during its lifetime and then broke 100 million in 2007. There was no Xbox at the time to take any of the market share and SEGA's Saturn didn't make too much of a dent.

Gamecube had pretty similar numbers and the PS2 was the juggernaut we know it to be. But n64 was by no means a successful platform compared to the PS1.

 

[Networker1]

Guess I'll actually weigh in:

1.) Cowboom. Best Buy's company for all the scratched, returned, etc. items they have. 3DS XL sells for $135 at a grade 6 (GREAT condition) and a Wii U is like $200. With free shipping.

2.) Wii U isn't worth it. And I'll tell you why:

a.) It's more similar to the Nintendo 64 and Gamecube in structure, focuses, and marketing than the Wii's ironically enough. The Gamecube and n64 were both inferior in sales compared to the other consoles of their generations and the former despite its hardware specs that beat PS2.​

​

Why's this? Well, it's because Nintendo tried to give its console a unique feel while trying to make the most out of part of what the generation had to offer. Nintendo 64 had a much more complex controller and four player multiplayer and the Gamecube had great graphics and a vastly improved controller. At the same time though, they tried to make the consoles unique at the expense of not having a CD/DVD player or by refraining from using cartridges.​

​

How's this relate to the Wii U? And why did the Wii not fit under this plan? Well, the Wii is what Nintendo did right with their creativity. They made something so unique, so individual, and so apart from what MS and Sony offered in the 360 and PS3 while still giving a gaming experience to families that it was able to carve itself into the family market distinctly, not just the kiddie corner. They did NOT go for the great graphics, they did NOT go for a controller like 360 or PS3, they did NOT try to hype anything PS3 or 360 already offered. The Wii was sold on the point of a motion controller unheard of by any other company, exactly why it was named the Revolution. A complete turn around from the Gamecube's similarity to the PS2 and Xbox as a console.​

​

Now on to the Wii U. Nintendo really just tried to ride the hype of the Wii's name and failed to use the same strategy of console uniqueness that made the Wii what it was. Firstly, the Wii U feels like a step back to traditional console gaming, analog sticks, trigger buttons, and holding it in two hands similar to a PS4 or Xbox One controller. Games have less motion uniqueness to them, and it feels so much like the rest of the crew instead of like the Wii and its motion-heavy controls.​

​

Second, it focuses more on how the Gamecube functioned in relation to other consoles, HD graphics, the controller, and what other companies frankly provide, but better. And it brought back the gimmicks that are the selling points of the console but just don't do it justice as they always restrict it more than make it individual. Lacking touch screen controls, an underdeveloped online multiplayer platform AND library of games than will actually support it, and controller options that just aren't strong enough.​

​

b.) Nintendo is feeling the sting of a more online youth. Kids are playing Minecraft and games like that which allow online play more than ever. And adults expect more out of the technology they buy, everything's moving towards allowing connectivity as opposed to limitations. And limited is exactly what the Wii U feels like.​

​

Nintendo simply takes the narrative of limited console strength into the realm of the games. On the Gamecube, they got away with no online because it was in its baby stages in consoles. In the Wii, the console was so unique and distinctive, and focusing ON THAT DISTINCTIVE FEATURE, that online was able to slide. But in the Wii U, they don't have the Wii's staple individuality to fall back on and are now trying to fight for console superiority in the realms that PS4 and Xbox One dominate as consoles, which translates to online wars.​

​

The Wii U just feels like the other consoles so much, but Nintendo brought its curse to one of the worst possible areas of next gen online gaming, online. Arbitrarily restricting online gameplay just doesn't fly anymore. People don't see why online is so detrimental to the game, while they know restricting it solely alienates certain people.​

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And overall, they get fed up because Nintendo reverted back to their old console ways and just say FORGET IT! And buy a 3DS, because Nintendo always does well with the handheld market.​

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3.) That huge controller costs a lot to make.

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So... you do know that the PS4 and Xbone will have less games than Wii U has on launch day, right? I don't get why everyone is all "Wii U has no games" when there are almost 100 games out. Though I agree they need to up their game in the online department. And I don't see how Wii U feels like one of the other 2 consoles, playing Nintendo Land, I honestly never thought, "gee, this feels like a game I'd find on an Xbox." And price isn't an argument because Wii U is $200 cheaper than the other 2 consoles.

 

[nat pagle]

So... you do know that the PS4 and Xbone will have less games than Wii U has on launch day, right? I don't get why everyone is all "Wii U has no games" when there are almost 100 games out. Though I agree they need to up their game in the online department. And I don't see how Wii U feels like one of the other 2 consoles, playing Nintendo Land, I honestly never thought, "gee, this feels like a game I'd find on an Xbox." And price isn't an argument because Wii U is $200 cheaper than the other 2 consoles.

A.) The Wii U only has a handful of highly rated and top games. This includes Mario, Pikmin, and other flagship IP's like Donkey Kong, Zelda, etc. PS4 and Xbox One have loads of AAA titles coming out on launch. DC Universe, Knack, LEGO, Minecraft, Assassins Creed, BF4, Driveclub, FIFA, NBA 2k13, etc.

The Wii U is getting more notice right now because the flagships are finally coming.

B.) Look at the Wii U compared to next gen consoles. Now look at the Wii compared to 360 and PS3. The Wii U controller has much more in common with the PS4 and Xbox One. It holds like a regular control, it feels like a regular controller with a touch screen slapped on, and it's no where near as unique as Wii was vs. PS3 and Xbox 360.

That's what I'm getting at, Wii U doesn't do enough to make itself look unique. The Nintendo standard pre-Wii was always have the 1st party games, had similar gameplay via controller as the others, but would have different gimmicks like catridges, smaller discs, mic, etc. that did nothing for it while the other consoles would dominate. Nintendo had to ride the success of their 1st party titles into mediocre sales. PS1 beat N64, PS2 beat Gamecube, and PS4 is going to crush Wii U since it can't distinguish itself enough and the gimmicks don't make up for pathetic online support.


The Wii U is not designed to be a huge success.

 

[Starcutter]

why did I wander here... all my hopes and dreams for the system were crushed...

anyways, just a piece of my mind, the wiiU is a good buy, it's going to be less expensive then both other systems when they come out, and 3rd party support isn't too bad.

also, it seems nintendo is pulling out all the everything in gameplay and mechanics. which is odd, because before this summer, nintendo was usually playing it safe. I think it's worth a shot.

 

[8-peacock-8]

I still need to pay off my Wii U. (It's on layaway)

 

[nat pagle]

why did I wander here... all my hopes and dreams for the system were crushed...

anyways, just a piece of my mind, the wiiU is a good buy, it's going to be less expensive then both other systems when they come out, and 3rd party support isn't too bad.

also, it seems nintendo is pulling out all the everything in gameplay and mechanics. which is odd, because before this summer, nintendo was usually playing it safe. I think it's worth a shot.

Well to be honest, it's completely Nintendo's fault for choosing to fade back into console mediocrity. The Wii U is still fun yes, but it's just not the caliber system that Nintendo should've been able to make.

But as usual, Nintendo dominates the handhelds like no other.

 

[Morbi]

Well to be honest, it's completely Nintendo's fault for choosing to fade back into console mediocrity. The Wii U is still fun yes, but it's just not the caliber system that Nintendo should've been able to make.

But as usual, Nintendo dominates the handhelds like no other.

It is only a matter of time before they transition to handheld only.

 

[nat pagle]

It is only a matter of time before they transition to handheld only.

They'd be better off. Nintendo can't hack it in the console market compared to Sony or MS anymore.

 

[Renji64]

I hope that never happens dispite nintendos short comings the other consoles don't have anything i want beside third party titles. I only got a sony console for persona and DJ max got a xbox for JSRF and GTA.

 

[nat pagle]

I hope that never happens dispite nintendos short comings the other consoles don't have anything i want beside third party titles. I only got a sony console for persona and DJ max got a xbox for JSRF and GTA.

It won't, but it's glaringly obvious the Wii was the exception rather than rule. Every generation since n64 from Nintendo has been lackluster besides the Wii compared to Sony and now MS.

They consistently dominate the handheld market though.

 

[N3ON]

As this really has nothing to do specifically with Smash, and this topic exists elsewhere, I'd ask you relocate the discussion there. Thanks.

http://smashboards.com/threads/wii-wii-u.126818/