Teams Grab Release

[LucixCloud]

Hi, I was watching Armada and Android wobble this dood to death and Android wasnt pummeling, Armada was just using Nair super fast. So I go and try to do this my self and when I hit falco with peaches Nair, Marth dropped him? I'd like to know what moves make characters drop grabs and if Percent/Character Choice affects this at all

 

[Pauer]

Hi, I was watching Armada and Android wobble this dood to death and Android wasnt pummeling, Armada was just using Nair super fast.

Could you maybe link the video if you can still find it? Maybe Armada was using peach's dair and you mistook it for fast nairs?
I'm not sure about the exact mechanics of when you get knocked out of the grab but my intuitive understanding is that it is determined the same way as whether or not you can jab-reset an enemy (details on that here). edit: This seems to be wrong!

 

[LucixCloud]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Go9e2HTwzA&t=164s

At 2:33 It was definitely nair and I guess Android did pummel once

 

[Pauer]

You're right! It seems like my intuitive suggestion earlier is then completely wrong! I'll try to look it up sometime later today.
For now, you can note that Armada's Nair was heavily staled (it dealt less than 6% each hit), which reduces knockback considerably!

 

[Bones0]

You're right! It seems like my intuitive suggestion earlier is then completely wrong! I'll try to look it up sometime later today.
For now, you can note that Armada's Nair was heavily staled (it dealt less than 6% each hit), which reduces knockback considerably!

Attacks on grabbed opponents is halved, and if you deal 6% or more, they will be knocked out of the grab. Armada had just finished edgeguarding S2J with 2 consecutive nairs meaning they were in the top 2 stale slots. With its damage decreased from 14% to 12% then again to 11%, nair dealt <6% to the grabbed Falcon which is why he wasn't grab released.

It's also worth mentioning that I'm not entirely convinced the wobble was "true". I think S2J was just at such a high percent and wasn't mashing that the grab lasted longer than you'd expect.

 

[LucixCloud]

Thank you for the replies, I didn't know that about Melee!