Tactics.

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Yeah.

 

[Mr.C]

Mr.C i don't think you should ever REFRAIN from using the klaw.. if you have the oppertunity for the klaw grab go for it. However.. shield pressure with a spaced fair is all well and good to. You need to mix up your game, but telling people to REFRAIN from something might lead to trouble.

I'm saying refrain from using it so when they actually use it in a situation where it would work the opponent will not expect it....meaning he will most likely DI the throw wrong allowing you to get off an uair or he DI's the back throw wrong making the claw actually worth it instead of just racking up %'s. Fair pressuring helps this out because it will make you're opponent shield more.....more shields = more klaws.

Sorry for saying REFRAIN....but what I really mean is using your klaw less will make it less expected...although this is SSBM and everything is situational...if you're in a situation where the klaw is the best option use it =]

 

[Haruno Kotetsu]

The Klaw should be used, its very useful but i'd try to time it properly just like fsmashes so you won't be punished for it.

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Fortresshog to Klaw is secks.

 

[-Wolfy-]

Don't get predictable. If you do it everytime you waveland off a platform at Yoshi's Story, people will catch on. Be sporadic.

 

[Rose]

f-smash dashgrab attempts. I don't rely on it. But sometimes it happens.

Luke is ****ing awesome. "Don't roll into this!"

 

[Haruno Kotetsu]

XD

I hate Falco and Marth so much. They always space my Bowser out with those ******** lasers and tipper attacks. It's hard to get good shots in when you can't time them properly. You guys think it's bad if I gotta use the Fair or Fortress 2-3 times before i can shake them off..?

 

[Insane-Contrast]

If I'm playing people who can't DI, then the flamebreath is a great mindgame. If I'm playing people that DI, then Fortress out of shield, a little wavedashing (S.L.O.W!), Some jumping and overusing his FAIR attack.

 

[KevinM]

How is the flamebreath a mindgame?

Mindgames are ******** <_<

 

[FaceFaceMcFace]

Imagining the flamebreath as a mindgame is pretty hilarious actually.

"WHAT?! HOW AM I ON FIRE?! THIS IS FREAKING CONFUSING, I MUST HAVE BEEN TRICKED!"

 

[Xanthyr]

It's great if the person doesn't know how to get out of it immediately. I've gotten the flames to last all the way to where it's just passed Bowser's nose. How much damage does it do if it lasts that long?

 

[Haruno Kotetsu]

Firebreath..? Wow.
Only use I found for it is against Fox and Falcos recovery.. even then there's way better choices and its not very good

 

[Insane-Contrast]

XD I know it's an almost useless attack against a decent player.
Not so good players actually can't get out of the flame breath quickly. Heck even the Bowser Bomb works on some of them! A lot of people in my area don't know how to DI, chaingrab or L-canceling. They also don't believe it's possible when they first see fortress hogging >_>
Most of them can short hop and waveash... it's something !
I know one Bowser player who's not serious about smash but he has learned all the advanced techs. I think he's used the flamebreath... like 3 times in a year

 

[Haruno Kotetsu]

lol.

What different approaches do you guys use against opponents? Excluding Fair, of course.

 

[KevinM]

Waveland off the platform into Bair is really good if you space worth anything.

 

[Haruno Kotetsu]

Sounds good to me, and yeah, i space pretty good. I just need more options than ftilt/fair/klaw/grab if im lucky

 

[ohpistachios]

I find I use waveland fair much more than bair. Hmm.. I should try bair out and see how that is.

But yeah, I would say the 3 approaches i use the most by FAR are shuffled fair, hop up to platform -> waveland fair, and dash grab. Those approaches just have the most range =o.

 

[Rose]

good approaches? f-smash is very powerful, and moves you forward through repeated uses. Good attack to steadily gain ground. dash-grab is OK I guess. Running at your opponent, jumping, and reverse-Bing behind them is excellent, gets my nephew every time.

also flamebreath has more power and duration if you shout "BLAAAH!" when you use it.