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Strongest Forward Smash Attacks

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I tested all characters forward smash power fully charged and uncharged. I tested them in training mode on final destination (Yoshi's Island) with the Wiifit trainer as the punching bag. Because nobody really likes her and she's in the middle for weight. This was tested from the initial spawn point in training mode. Not the edge or dead center.

The first number is the lowest percentage at which the named character, KOs WiiFit with a fully charged forward smash. The second number is the percent at which the named character, KOs WiiFit with an uncharged smash attack. The third number is the total of both, only used to determine their comprehensive smash power.

  1. King Dedede-----------19-48-67
  2. Bowser-------------------21-48-69
  3. Marth---------------------24-49-73
  4. Ganondorf---------------24-54-78
  5. Ness----------------------26-55-81
  6. Ike-------------------------27-56-83
  7. Villager-------------------33-58-91
  8. Charizard----------------34-62-96
  9. Toon Link----------------34-64-98
  10. Olimar (Big Sue)-------35-67-102
  11. Link------------------------39-65-104
  12. Dr.Mario------------------38-68-106
  13. Wario---------------------39-70-109
  14. Mac--------------------------40-72-112
  15. Donkey Kong-----------40-73-113
  16. Metaknight--------------42-71-113
  17. Shulk (Smash)---------45-70-115
  18. Pikachu------------------43-75-118
  19. Robin---------------------45-73-118
  20. Cpt. Falcon-------------43-76-119
  21. Duck Hunt---------------45-74-119
  22. Bowser Jr.---------------45-74-119
  23. Palutena-----------------45-75-120
  24. Roselina-----------------44-78-122
  25. Mario---------------------46-78-124
  26. Mr. G & W---------------47-80-127
  27. Lucina--------------------50-81-131
  28. Falco---------------------50-81-131
  29. Wiifit Trainer------------50-81-131
  30. Zelda---------------------50-82-132
  31. Samus-------------------53-84-137
  32. R.O.B.--------------------53-84-137
  33. Jigglypuff----------------53-85-138
  34. Diddy Kong-------------54-85-139
  35. Pac-Man-----------------54-87-141
  36. Sonic---------------------55-86-141
  37. Kirby----------------------55-86-141
  38. Pit-------------------------55-87-142
  39. Dark Pit------------------55-87-142
  40. Peach (Pan)------------57-94-151
  41. Sheik---------------------60-91-151
  42. Luigi----------------------59-93-152
  43. Greninja-----------------61-94-155
  44. Zero Suit----------------62-96-158
  45. Yoshi---------------------65-99-164
  46. Fox------------------------68-105-173
  47. Megaman---------------61-117-178
  48. Lucario-------------------73-107-180
There you have it, the list of all non mii fighters. I could have tested various other forms but I only wanted one slot per character not multiple shulks or peaches ect. Also I tested each characters smash at every spot to determine the most powerful point of contact.
 
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If you're going to take things like Smash for Shulk, Pan for Peach, Purple Pikmin for Olimar, Tipper for Marth and assuming "tipper/angled" F-Smash for Samus and Luma assistance for Rosalina, I would say you may as well go the full mile to add in Deep Breathing for WFT (whom more than a few of us do like, btw) and Max Aura Lucario.
 

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This can't be right. Lucario's Fsmash does not do 107 damage.
 

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Awesome info! Link is my main and his is up there... as you noted. I am surprised Lil Mac is not higher.
 

Ffamran

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king dedede doesn't have the weakest smash attack.
I think you're reading it backwards and OP's description is weird and vague to say the least. If I'm reading it right, then Triple D's Side Smash is the strongest killing at 19% fully charged and 48% uncharged on Wii Fit Trainer. Here's the thing, where? Looking at, it seems like at the ledge since Falco's Side Smash when I tested it doesn't kill Pit who along with Dark Pit is in the same weight class as WFT until 113% with his hands or 123% with his elbows without rage which was not mentioned either. Hitbox area should also be accounted for since if I remember right, Ike's spaced Side Smash is weaker than close up. At max rage which is either 70% or 100% - I don't remember -, I'd assume that Falco kills maybe 15% earlier.

I also have no idea what the "total" stands for.
 
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I think you're reading it backwards and OP's description is weird and vague to say the least. If I'm reading it right, then Triple D's Side Smash is the strongest killing at 19% fully charged and 48% uncharged on Wii Fit Trainer. Here's the thing, where? Looking at, it seems like at the ledge since Falco's Side Smash when I tested it doesn't kill Pit who along with Dark Pit is in the same weight class as WFT until 113% with his hands or 123% with his elbows without rage which was not mentioned either. Hitbox area should also be accounted for since if I remember right, Ike's spaced Side Smash is weaker than close up. At max rage which is either 70% or 100% - I don't remember -, I'd assume that Falco kills maybe 15% earlier.

I also have no idea what the "total" stands for.
Uncharged % + Charged % = Total.
 

PeejsterM

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What about Normal Mode Shulk, Buster Mode Shulk, Bronze Sword Robin, Olimar's other Pikmin, Lucario at various percents (50, 100, 300?) and Peach's other weapons?
It won't always be possible to have the most optimal setup when you're front-smashing, especially with Robin, who'll lose his ability to use smashes at all for several seconds at a time. Plus, you should naturally be aiming for completeness with a list like this.
 
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Are you trying to tell me that Jigglypuff's forward smash is stronger than Luigi's? Are you also trying to tell me that Sheik's forward smash is stronger than Lucario's? I'm gonna go out on a limb and say this list is just a LITTLE bit inaccurate. Just a little.
 

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Are we assuming these kill from the center of the stage based off of %, or is this from the edge of the stage? Because I swear Doc's Fsmash is not THAT powerful.
 
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