SSE Theory, playable villains?

[Genesai]

On one of the sticker power-up's screenshots (the one with the cell phone from kirby and the amazing mirror), it shows us 3 character heads: Kirby, King Dedede and Metaknight.

Various threads agree that these heads located at the bottom of the sticker indicates that the sticker is for specific use for exclusively those characters only. (As far as I know this is not officially confirmed but it's an accepted theory.)

My point is that in that screen shot of the 3 kirby reps, amoung the reps is King Dedede which is a villain in many kirby games.

Now what does this mean?
Well Sakurai indeed did confirm that sticker power-ups are only used for the subspace emissary. Therefore we can assume that King Dedede is playable in the SSE.

If this is true, what will the circumstances be?
Will Dedede be some how under the control of the Ancient Minister and later awaken from his transe to team up with the heroes? Or possibly will you the audience of smash be able to play the villains side of the story after they complete the heroes side?

Please keep in mind when i say villains, that is not including the bosses such as petey and rayquaza.

This is all purely speculation. Please let me know what you think.

 

[peytar]

it is possible but not likely since huge petey pirahna and Raquaza are bosses, most likely dedede is gonna be a good guy

 

[InvincibleAgent]

Dedede playable in SSE =/= Other villains playable in SSE

But yes, I think you are right.

 

[Erimir]

It could be that you can replay SSE levels with unlocked characters under certain conditions.

It might be that you need Diddy and Fox to meet up with Pit and Mario before you can replay the Pit and Mario level(s) with Diddy, for example.

But I wouldn't be surprised if you were allowed to replay levels with any character you have unlocked by the time you finish the SSE.

 

[Trifas]

All playable characters, villains or not, will be playable at SSE at some point, even Bowser or Wario.

 

[vinternet]

Yeah, I think it's pretty safe to assume that the ACTUAL villain of SSE is ... the SSE. Characters like Bowser, Wario, DeDeDe (and possibly Meta Knight?), Ganondorf will most likely be seen opposing the other heroes before they are drawn into the plot to stop the SSE. Example - Wario isn't working with the SSE when he kidnaps Zelda (altho it would seem Petey Pirhana was). Bowser isn't working with the SSE when he steals DK's bananas. Rayquaza (just a boss, I know) is just a natural obstacle for Fox and Diddy. Therefore I think it's safe to say that Bowser will have equal beef with the SSE as Mario by the end of the story.

 

[vinternet]

Yeah, I think it's pretty safe to assume that the ACTUAL villain of SSE is ... the SSE. Characters like Bowser, Wario, DeDeDe (and possibly Meta Knight?), Ganondorf will most likely be seen opposing the other heroes before they are drawn into the plot to stop the SSE. Example - Wario isn't working with the SSE when he kidnaps Zelda (altho it would seem Petey Pirhana was). Bowser isn't working with the SSE when he steals DK's bananas. Rayquaza (just a boss, I know) is just a natural obstacle for Fox and Diddy. Therefore I think it's safe to say that Bowser will have equal beef with the SSE as Mario by the end of the story.

 

[Genesai]

Yeah, I think it's pretty safe to assume that the ACTUAL villain of SSE is ... the SSE. Characters like Bowser, Wario, DeDeDe (and possibly Meta Knight?), Ganondorf will most likely be seen opposing the other heroes before they are drawn into the plot to stop the SSE. Example - Wario isn't working with the SSE when he kidnaps Zelda (altho it would seem Petey Pirhana was). Bowser isn't working with the SSE when he steals DK's bananas. Rayquaza (just a boss, I know) is just a natural obstacle for Fox and Diddy. Therefore I think it's safe to say that Bowser will have equal beef with the SSE as Mario by the end of the story.

Yeah thats sort of one of the theories I had, bowser and all other PC that are villains are just doing their regular things during the SSE before the Minister attacks? Sounds right...but then again how would wario or bowser hav the technology of those guns that turn people into trophies?

Possibly they are being manipulated by the SSE?

 

[Night Avenger]

Dedede isn't actually evil... He just hates Kirby...

Hmm maybe that's why nor Claus, nor Mewtwo were shown in the leak... They're villains... Why the ____ would you want to power up villains? (And by villains I do not mean bossed, Bowser is a villain, yet he's playable.)

 

[Genesai]

Dedede isn't actually evil... He just hates Kirby...

Hmm maybe that's why nor Claus, nor Mewtwo were shown in the leak... They're villains... Why the ____ would you want to power up villains? (And by villains I do not mean bossed, Bowser is a villain, yet he's playable.)

Ye when i say villains i also dont mean ppl like petey or rayquaza, i meant the playable villains.
And claus and mewtwo if their in ...which i donno about... i'd imagine they wud be villains.

 

[DarkDragoon]

If this is true, what will the circumstances be?

DeDeDe is the "King" of Dream Land. In otherwords, what would he gain by joining on a quest to seemingly destroy the world?

We haven't seen any of the other "Villains"(Bowser, Wario) appear to be under mind control of any sort, they just seem destructive for destructiveness sake.

My theory is, MetaKnight, along with DeDeDe, are after the Ancient Minister, because he took Halberd, and is planning on wiping out the planet...thing...which includes Dreamland, and thats not good.

I think it makes more sense than off-beat mind control.

Also, TRUE Bosses have those health bars, just like the enemies. So, if you had to fight someone like Mario or Kirby like in the first stage, where its a normal "KO the opponent" fight, they cannot be made into trophies.

-DD

 

[Genesai]

DeDeDe is the "King" of Dream Land. In otherwords, what would he gain by joining on a quest to seemingly destroy the world?

We haven't seen any of the other "Villains"(Bowser, Wario) appear to be under mind control of any sort, they just seem destructive for destructiveness sake.

My theory is, MetaKnight, along with DeDeDe, are after the Ancient Minister, because he took Halberd, and is planning on wiping out the planet...thing...which includes Dreamland, and thats not good.

I think it makes more sense than off-beat mind control.

Also, TRUE Bosses have those health bars, just like the enemies. So, if you had to fight someone like Mario or Kirby like in the first stage, where its a normal "KO the opponent" fight, they cannot be made into trophies.

-DD

So your implying that not only the hero's worlds have been disturbed but also the villains?
Makes sense...perfect sense actually. But the problem still remains...how the heck do wario and bowser have that 'special gun'? I'm clueless.

 

[dragonairex]

Well apparently IF Dedede is playable in SSE, you wouldn't be facing Dedede as an enemy would you ?
He should be down in another story line like fighting mewtwo instead.
And so that completes the 240-hour-completion theory~

Yes, right you are.

 

[BlueYoshiPinkShoes]

Although it would seem that Wario is working for the SSE, we can never be sure of it.
Wario was always about his personal gain, and maybe he took Zelda for his own purpose.
Nevertheless, We can be sure that "Villains" will be separate from the bosses.
The Bosses being Petey, Rayquaza, and maybe Ridley. The Villains being Wario, Bowser, DeDeDe, and Ganon (!?)

 

[Genesai]

Although it would seem that Wario is working for the SSE, we can never be sure of it.
Wario was always about his personal gain, and maybe he took Zelda for his own purpose.
Nevertheless, We can be sure that "Villains" will be separate from the bosses.
The Bosses being Petey, Rayquaza, and maybe Ridley. The Villains being Wario, Bowser, DeDeDe, and Ganon (!?)

Well we can't really be sure of anything.

And yeah when i talk about villains i dont mean bosses...maybe i shud edit my first post, people are misunderstanding.

 

[GreatClayMonkey]

people are doubting that every character will be playable in sse

 

[Genesai]

people are doubting that every character will be playable in sse

It's fairly obvious that all characters will have a role in SSE and will be playable in it...
Altho i cud be wrong...there is no proof all chars will be in SSE altho ther is also no proof that they will not be all in SSE.

 

[TheOfficialSonicFanboy]

Well, riddle me this:
If Sakurai said MOST characters can be unlocked through Subspace. That means most, not all. It is entirely possible some characters will not be in SSE because of that.
On topic, Dedede has for the most part been a good guy fighting against Kirby because he was either tricked, confused, or possessed. That's how it rolls. Dedede probably will be a good guy in this one to save his own butt, as always.

 

[Genesai]

Well, riddle me this:
If Sakurai said MOST characters can be unlocked through Subspace. That means most, not all. It is entirely possible some characters will not be in SSE because of that.
On topic, Dedede has for the most part been a good guy fighting against Kirby because he was either tricked, confused, or possessed. That's how it rolls. Dedede probably will be a good guy in this one to save his own butt, as always.

Yeah, sakurai did say that most characters can be unlocked through SSE but which characters are unlocked in the mode will not be exactly the same as how many characters are playable in the mode...or else the starting roster would be 0. (And im pretty sure there is a ton of conflict about the number of players in the starting roster right now...)

On topic, yeah your right about that dedede stuff you said and i wouldn't be surprised if thats how his role is in the SSE.

 

[Blu-ninja]

@genesal

duh.

but what he meant by "most" is that others would have to be unlocked via; arcade,multiman mellee, and classic.



you cant tell me it would be fun if EVERYTHING was unlocked in SSE eh?

 

[oxyborb]

YEAAAAAH THIS THREAD HAS CONFIRMED THAT PETEY PIRANHA SUPPORTERS ARE BACK IN ACTION!

completely joking

 

[Genesai]

@genesal

duh.

but what he meant by "most" is that others would have to be unlocked via; arcade,multiman mellee, and classic.



you cant tell me it would be fun if EVERYTHING was unlocked in SSE eh?

That's not what i meant....

 

[Genesai]

Sorry for double post....connection problems, mods delete my double posts.

 

[Genesai]

YEAAAAAH THIS THREAD HAS CONFIRMED THAT PETEY PIRANHA SUPPORTERS ARE BACK IN ACTION!

completely joking

How the hell do you figure that?

Where in my thread did i say, or even give the impression that I support petey piranna?

 

[SuperLink9]

I think it'll be like a typical Mario RPG, once the villains discover what's happened, they'll all pull together to try and win.

Also, I'm sure other characters will be playable in SSE via stage select. e.g. Jiggs will probably be unlocked via Classic mode, and Sakurai said "most" will be unlocked through SSE. Does this mean Jiggs is not in the main story of SSE? Yet it's icon was shown on the sticker, meaning you could play as it in SSE, probably in Stage select mode.

Mewtwo isn't there because he hadn't been unlocked

 

[Genesai]

I think it'll be like a typical Mario RPG, once the villains discover what's happened, they'll all pull together to try and win.

Also, I'm sure other characters will be playable in SSE via stage select. e.g. Jiggs will probably be unlocked via Classic mode, and Sakurai said "most" will be unlocked through SSE. Does this mean Jiggs is not in the main story of SSE? Yet it's icon was shown on the sticker, meaning you could play as it in SSE, probably in Stage select mode.

Mewtwo isn't there because he hadn't been unlocked

Yeah, nice ideas. I was thinking that it will be like that too, as the villains team up with the good guys eventually.

 

[Genesai]

Sorry for the double post, connection problems...

Mods feel free to delete my double posts.