Hello and welcome to tha super smash bros brawl, special button brawl ladder/tier list/discussion thread.
Let me start things off with a few things to note
THERE IS NO DEADLINE FOR ENTRY that means you can fight me or someone else anytime there available, and if you cant fight at the same time as someone else then there will be no forfeiting, you can simply arrange another time.
And one more thing This isnt really a "tournament" alright? Its suppose to be a tier list arranger, and the method I'm using to arrange it is a ladder.
Alright i'll get to the point, SPECIAL BUTTON BRAWL is a special mode of ssbb that me and my brother... ~_~ but mostly me invented, its based on the special mode from melee "single button" and its pretty much the same concept only not with the "attack" button but with the "special" button.
how to play special button brawl
There are 5 simple steps
#1 start up brawl
#2 go into the options area
#3 go into the control configuration area
#4 make a new nickname (example) SBB/SPB ect
#5 set every button to "special" except for Y/X
So that includes
A
B
C stick
Z
R
L
you can leave the taunt buttons if you wish
*note* if you want to play in subspace with SPB on, then i suggest giving yourself an attack button, either replace a taunt or make it L You gotta pick up keys... so..
there you go! Now you can no longer shield,spot dodge,roll,air dodge,grab,jab,tilt,and of coarse smash.
So that leads to the question what DO you have?
Well look at it this way, if you wanna "win" in this mode, then you'll have to rely on completely different methods of playing smash.
In a sense what this mode changes about smash the most is that "safe" defensive tactics such as, air dodging, shielding, spot dodging, etc,
Are now not an option, and other faster attacks such as, smash attacks, jabs, tilts, etc, are also now not an option, then that forces you to have to rely on much... bolder tactics.
Q&A time (Q=jerkface
) (A=meh )
Q: but now that you've gotten rid of all the stuff that makes smash fun what is the point?
A: well not ALL of it is gone and getting rid of complications changes the game ALOT, and IMO changing the game around and trying something new is always fun.
Q: uhh with only special moves isnt this like... fo babys?
A: not at all, admittedly its less fast paced and overall not as exciting as normal brawl, but that doesnt mean its any less interesting.
Besides thats not the point, the point is would you rather keep playing brawl the way it is, or would you like to try something new
Q: but now that there are only special moves to rely on, doesnt that make some of the characters not have kill moves at all?
A: NO SIR IT DONT true that most characters dont have great methods of KOing, but ive gone through all the characters and they all have at least one special move that has the power to KO the opponent......*cough* just not pit
And so we bring ourselves to the tier list itself
current SPB tierlist
S RANK
:kirbybrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]not having very many attacks doesnt help kirby all that much, BUT EVERYBODY ELSE HAVING SQUAT COULDNT HELP HIM MORE cuz kirbys big "grab him while his a rock " thing is no longer a problem because most characters dont have special grabs,
but thats just one reason his so good in this mode the main reason he can beat pretty much everybody is because he can COPY ANYBODY and at that point the advantage is very significant because he also has a VERY GOOD KILL MOVE which is his hammer.
so what i would say when playing him is 1 take the opponents power 2 spam that power 3 finish him/her with your strangely fast yet extrimely powerful hammer
and of caurse dont be afraid to play off stage since you have the advantage there againts almost everybody.
[/COLLAPSE]
:marthbrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]now i actually dont play a marth in normal ssbb nor ssbm but i would put him up here because of a few things, for one he has like the most decent "attack style" special of arguably everybody his Fspecial.
another reason i'd put him here is his Uspecial and it being his best kill move in this mode
but mainly his here for his Dspecial the counter and if your fighting someone who has no fast unpredictable specials like ike then you can counter... everything[/COLLAPSE]
:metaknightbrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]meta night... sigh... HYPOR TORNADO!!! no really thats pretty much his big game plan. now of caurse its also the only reason he IMO cant beat kirby
oh and of caurse once the opponent is at killing % you use Uspecial.
[/COLLAPSE]
ikachubrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]hmm.... PIKAAA!!! thats pretty much the best idea here, however pikachu has an exceptably fast attack Uspecial. And on that topic i suggest shooting to the ground and then jumping off of it, this makes for pretty easy damage, and not to mention this technique is a little easier to perform now that specials can be done by pressing A.
and of caurse there is his head butt as well, which is like ten times harder to avoid since well... you cant shield[/COLLAPSE]
A RANK
:zeldabrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]when there on you NTRspecial when there not Fspecial when there beating on you turn into shiek and rack up some damage/avoid, keep in mind shiek is one of the handfull of characters who can roll in this mode and that will come in handy
shiek also has a kill move Uspecial but really its much easier to follow them with dins fire.[/COLLAPSE]
:wariobrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]when people come at you byte.
when people run away bike. when you feel edgy Uspecial. do that for 2 minutes then finish them off[/COLLAPSE]
:bowserbrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]IMO bowsers gameplay changes alot and he dosnt really gain any weaknesses from the change,
one of bowsers bigger advantages is his high priority Uspecial and since there is no smashing then it works against almost everything, also something to note is now that Cstick controls specials you can get bowser to use his Uspecial in the air RIGHT AFTER HE JUMPS to get a "less laggy landing",
And this move has the power to KO at high %'s. but still thats not even his big killing move, the big one is his Dspecial and that can kill at very early %'s and of caurse its very difficult to dodge in this mode. And one more thing to keep in mind, bowsers Fspecial "land cancel" can be used to cancel into a Dspecial.[/COLLAPSE]
:dkbrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]donkey kong has a pretty solid tactic which works against almost everybody,charge the punch, Uspecial till there high in %'s, hit them into the ground and use the punch, now either you charge the punch or you charge it throughout because you mus remember that the punch is also your best defence, due to the fact that you can dodge while doing it.[/COLLAPSE]
B RANK
:dededebrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]i wouldn't say dedede's game is "demolished" but i can say that its ALOT different, specifically because of the whole no grabbing thing, but also there is no more Bair spamming, and no Utilt. So yah... dedede's game is pretty much gone...
Forcing him to rely on his... odd specials.
Who new? That the waddledees would become his fastest comboing attack, and of coarse his kill move would be landing on you with either his Uspecial or Dspecial.
preferably Dspecial *its a little less predictable*[/COLLAPSE]
:sonicbrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]NTR SPAMMING IS GOOD! for sonic at least, i mean its almost undodgeable in this mode and its relatively safe,
The only flaw is the speed, fortunately sonic has a variety of different specials that are nearly undodgeable and safe aswell.
But that doesnt mean he's perfect, specifically because he lacks a kill move, his NTRspecial is about as close as it comes to something that will KO, but even so it needs about 240% to work.
So that means you'll need to get creative and with sonic its not that hard, his offstage game is pretty darn good so i suggest footstooling.[/COLLAPSE]
:jigglypuffbrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]you know i would love to say that jiggly's singing attack actually has use in this mode... however i cant figure out a decent way to use it.
Even so thats not a problem because jiggs got everything she needs to defeat her opponent, Fspecial *SLAP* for damage rackn, and NTRspecial ROLL to finish the job.
And then theres Dspecial, however just like in normal mode this is well... risky.[/COLLAPSE]
:diddybrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]what? I cant pick up my naners?? NOT A PROBLEM for the opponent cant either, thus i suggest planning where you put them and not wasting them, cuz if your on the wrong side of the stage then it takes a while for them to return to your inventory.
Eitherway diddy isn't poorly equipped he's got a projectile, he's got a close combat tactic(jump on yo face), and a fast getaway option Uspecial.
but unfortunately his killing methods are less then adequate, try to "hump jump" while offstage and spike the opponent, or Uspecial spike the opponent. [/COLLAPSE]
tbrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]pokemon trainer! Yay!! Tis the very character i played as, in my very first brawl!
And i must say, doesnt suck in this mode!.. so assuming you start off as squirtle, he's got a few things that are useful
one being he's Uspecial, its pretty much as close to an attack as it gets.
And second being he's "shell pivoting", if you've played as squirtle successfully then you should know what i mean.
Oh and dont forget he can roll while charging watergun.
Ivysaur's plan is kinda simple but not easy, to rack up damage you must,
Drop on the opponent with NTRspecial, this is a risk however due to end lag. To finish the opponent Fspecial them into the air and then Uspecial them.
Not a great tactic but without his smash attacks he has few powerful attacks.
Now Charizard is your ace in the hole, he can glide and that almost makes up for his speed,
And he can blow fire, thats his damage right there,
And when the finish is ready Fspecial them off stage and thats that.
Oh and dont forget the most important thing, because of the lack of smash attacks the risk of swapping out IS MUCH LESS so if your thinking that your going to be punished by it then dont worry... too much.
[/COLLAPSE]
:falconbrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]falcon use to have a few legitimately safe attacks... hehe not any more.
Now all you've got to fight the opponent are your extremely laggy special moves, however if you can get momentum going and... well not miss a rapter boost? Then you can finish the job pretty quickly.
Just... dont boost yourself off the edge... T^T[/COLLAPSE]
C RANK
:linkbrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]bob[/COLLAPSE]
:gwbrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]bob[/COLLAPSE]
:samusbrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]bob[/COLLAPSE]
:lucasbrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]bob[/COLLAPSE]
:lucariobrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]bob[/COLLAPSE]
:luigibrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]bob[/COLLAPSE]
D RANK
:nessbrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]bob[/COLLAPSE]
eachbrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]bob[/COLLAPSE]
:robbrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]bob[/COLLAPSE]
:wolfbrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]bob[/COLLAPSE]
:icsbrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]bob[/COLLAPSE]
:olimarbrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]bob[/COLLAPSE]
E RANK
:mariobrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]bob[/COLLAPSE]
:ikebrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]bob[/COLLAPSE]
:ganonbrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]bob[/COLLAPSE]
:falcobrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]bob[/COLLAPSE]
:snakebrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]bob[/COLLAPSE]
F RANK
:toonlinkbrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]bob[/COLLAPSE]
:foxbrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]bob[/COLLAPSE]
itbrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]bob[/COLLAPSE]
QUICK "RULES" INSTRUCTIONS
NO ITEMS, NO TIME LIMIT, NO STAGES THAT CAN KILL YOU
anything above three stock would probably drag on so yah 3 STOCK
AND ONE MORE THING!! This isnt exactly a rule but i find that if you set the damage ratio to 1.3 then the battle gets little more fair and alot more exciting!
Ok i think i should get into specifics on how this ladder actually works so
It is pretty much like any other ladder in that you fight the next person up from you for that spot, however it will not be your username that will move up it will be the character you played as
And this can happen any time! If you think the tier list is unjust in anyway then send me your FC and tell me who your playing as and i'll play as the next character up on the ladder
If you win then i'll move your character up, if you lose then you stay, i'll probable request rematches too to see it reversed and whatnot, OH YES AND THIS DOESNT JUST APPLY TO ME You can fight anybody in SPB as long as its by the rules and you give me the results.
JUST ONE WARNING THOUGH
If your gonna fight me or someone else for that matter could you practice a little first? I mean i admit i'm no god player but i suggest practicing this mode a little before going crazy here are some ways that arent too bad
You could fight some CPU's? I find it kinda difficult though cuz they can shield and i cant? But if you fight a lvl 1 then its kinda like beating on a punching bag so...
Or you could play through the subspace emessary again, and i found that one pretty neat! It wasn't unbearably hard on intense either, but still like i said above you should assign an attack button... for the keys
Or you could play online? I mean the people you find out there hardly even know HOW to shield so its not like its that uneven.
So yah... any questions i'll answer here, oh and if this idea has already been invented? or there is a thread similar to this one? Or if you can think of a better place for a thread like this?? Then by all means do tell.
Let me start things off with a few things to note
THERE IS NO DEADLINE FOR ENTRY that means you can fight me or someone else anytime there available, and if you cant fight at the same time as someone else then there will be no forfeiting, you can simply arrange another time.
And one more thing This isnt really a "tournament" alright? Its suppose to be a tier list arranger, and the method I'm using to arrange it is a ladder.
Alright i'll get to the point, SPECIAL BUTTON BRAWL is a special mode of ssbb that me and my brother... ~_~ but mostly me invented, its based on the special mode from melee "single button" and its pretty much the same concept only not with the "attack" button but with the "special" button.
how to play special button brawl
There are 5 simple steps
#1 start up brawl
#2 go into the options area
#3 go into the control configuration area
#4 make a new nickname (example) SBB/SPB ect
#5 set every button to "special" except for Y/X
So that includes
A
B
C stick
Z
R
L
you can leave the taunt buttons if you wish
*note* if you want to play in subspace with SPB on, then i suggest giving yourself an attack button, either replace a taunt or make it L You gotta pick up keys... so..
there you go! Now you can no longer shield,spot dodge,roll,air dodge,grab,jab,tilt,and of coarse smash.
So that leads to the question what DO you have?
Well look at it this way, if you wanna "win" in this mode, then you'll have to rely on completely different methods of playing smash.
In a sense what this mode changes about smash the most is that "safe" defensive tactics such as, air dodging, shielding, spot dodging, etc,
Are now not an option, and other faster attacks such as, smash attacks, jabs, tilts, etc, are also now not an option, then that forces you to have to rely on much... bolder tactics.
Q&A time (Q=jerkface
) (A=meh )Q: but now that you've gotten rid of all the stuff that makes smash fun what is the point?
A: well not ALL of it is gone and getting rid of complications changes the game ALOT, and IMO changing the game around and trying something new is always fun.
Q: uhh with only special moves isnt this like... fo babys?
A: not at all, admittedly its less fast paced and overall not as exciting as normal brawl, but that doesnt mean its any less interesting.
Besides thats not the point, the point is would you rather keep playing brawl the way it is, or would you like to try something new
Q: but now that there are only special moves to rely on, doesnt that make some of the characters not have kill moves at all?
A: NO SIR IT DONT true that most characters dont have great methods of KOing, but ive gone through all the characters and they all have at least one special move that has the power to KO the opponent......*cough* just not pit
And so we bring ourselves to the tier list itself
current SPB tierlist
S RANK
:kirbybrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]not having very many attacks doesnt help kirby all that much, BUT EVERYBODY ELSE HAVING SQUAT COULDNT HELP HIM MORE cuz kirbys big "grab him while his a rock " thing is no longer a problem because most characters dont have special grabs,
but thats just one reason his so good in this mode the main reason he can beat pretty much everybody is because he can COPY ANYBODY and at that point the advantage is very significant because he also has a VERY GOOD KILL MOVE which is his hammer.
so what i would say when playing him is 1 take the opponents power 2 spam that power 3 finish him/her with your strangely fast yet extrimely powerful hammer
and of caurse dont be afraid to play off stage since you have the advantage there againts almost everybody.
[/COLLAPSE]
:marthbrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]now i actually dont play a marth in normal ssbb nor ssbm but i would put him up here because of a few things, for one he has like the most decent "attack style" special of arguably everybody his Fspecial.
another reason i'd put him here is his Uspecial and it being his best kill move in this mode
but mainly his here for his Dspecial the counter and if your fighting someone who has no fast unpredictable specials like ike then you can counter... everything[/COLLAPSE]
:metaknightbrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]meta night... sigh... HYPOR TORNADO!!! no really thats pretty much his big game plan. now of caurse its also the only reason he IMO cant beat kirby
oh and of caurse once the opponent is at killing % you use Uspecial.
[/COLLAPSE]
ikachubrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]hmm.... PIKAAA!!! thats pretty much the best idea here, however pikachu has an exceptably fast attack Uspecial. And on that topic i suggest shooting to the ground and then jumping off of it, this makes for pretty easy damage, and not to mention this technique is a little easier to perform now that specials can be done by pressing A.and of caurse there is his head butt as well, which is like ten times harder to avoid since well... you cant shield[/COLLAPSE]
A RANK
:zeldabrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]when there on you NTRspecial when there not Fspecial when there beating on you turn into shiek and rack up some damage/avoid, keep in mind shiek is one of the handfull of characters who can roll in this mode and that will come in handy
shiek also has a kill move Uspecial but really its much easier to follow them with dins fire.[/COLLAPSE]
:wariobrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]when people come at you byte.
when people run away bike. when you feel edgy Uspecial. do that for 2 minutes then finish them off[/COLLAPSE]
:bowserbrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]IMO bowsers gameplay changes alot and he dosnt really gain any weaknesses from the change,
one of bowsers bigger advantages is his high priority Uspecial and since there is no smashing then it works against almost everything, also something to note is now that Cstick controls specials you can get bowser to use his Uspecial in the air RIGHT AFTER HE JUMPS to get a "less laggy landing",
And this move has the power to KO at high %'s. but still thats not even his big killing move, the big one is his Dspecial and that can kill at very early %'s and of caurse its very difficult to dodge in this mode. And one more thing to keep in mind, bowsers Fspecial "land cancel" can be used to cancel into a Dspecial.[/COLLAPSE]
:dkbrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]donkey kong has a pretty solid tactic which works against almost everybody,charge the punch, Uspecial till there high in %'s, hit them into the ground and use the punch, now either you charge the punch or you charge it throughout because you mus remember that the punch is also your best defence, due to the fact that you can dodge while doing it.[/COLLAPSE]
B RANK
:dededebrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]i wouldn't say dedede's game is "demolished" but i can say that its ALOT different, specifically because of the whole no grabbing thing, but also there is no more Bair spamming, and no Utilt. So yah... dedede's game is pretty much gone...
Forcing him to rely on his... odd specials.
Who new? That the waddledees would become his fastest comboing attack, and of coarse his kill move would be landing on you with either his Uspecial or Dspecial.
preferably Dspecial *its a little less predictable*[/COLLAPSE]
:sonicbrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]NTR SPAMMING IS GOOD! for sonic at least, i mean its almost undodgeable in this mode and its relatively safe,
The only flaw is the speed, fortunately sonic has a variety of different specials that are nearly undodgeable and safe aswell.
But that doesnt mean he's perfect, specifically because he lacks a kill move, his NTRspecial is about as close as it comes to something that will KO, but even so it needs about 240% to work.
So that means you'll need to get creative and with sonic its not that hard, his offstage game is pretty darn good so i suggest footstooling.[/COLLAPSE]
:jigglypuffbrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]you know i would love to say that jiggly's singing attack actually has use in this mode... however i cant figure out a decent way to use it.
Even so thats not a problem because jiggs got everything she needs to defeat her opponent, Fspecial *SLAP* for damage rackn, and NTRspecial ROLL to finish the job.
And then theres Dspecial, however just like in normal mode this is well... risky.[/COLLAPSE]
:diddybrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]what? I cant pick up my naners?? NOT A PROBLEM for the opponent cant either, thus i suggest planning where you put them and not wasting them, cuz if your on the wrong side of the stage then it takes a while for them to return to your inventory.
Eitherway diddy isn't poorly equipped he's got a projectile, he's got a close combat tactic(jump on yo face), and a fast getaway option Uspecial.
but unfortunately his killing methods are less then adequate, try to "hump jump" while offstage and spike the opponent, or Uspecial spike the opponent. [/COLLAPSE]
tbrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]pokemon trainer! Yay!! Tis the very character i played as, in my very first brawl!And i must say, doesnt suck in this mode!.. so assuming you start off as squirtle, he's got a few things that are useful
one being he's Uspecial, its pretty much as close to an attack as it gets.
And second being he's "shell pivoting", if you've played as squirtle successfully then you should know what i mean.
Oh and dont forget he can roll while charging watergun.
Ivysaur's plan is kinda simple but not easy, to rack up damage you must,
Drop on the opponent with NTRspecial, this is a risk however due to end lag. To finish the opponent Fspecial them into the air and then Uspecial them.
Not a great tactic but without his smash attacks he has few powerful attacks.
Now Charizard is your ace in the hole, he can glide and that almost makes up for his speed,
And he can blow fire, thats his damage right there,
And when the finish is ready Fspecial them off stage and thats that.
Oh and dont forget the most important thing, because of the lack of smash attacks the risk of swapping out IS MUCH LESS so if your thinking that your going to be punished by it then dont worry... too much.
[/COLLAPSE]
:falconbrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]falcon use to have a few legitimately safe attacks... hehe not any more.
Now all you've got to fight the opponent are your extremely laggy special moves, however if you can get momentum going and... well not miss a rapter boost? Then you can finish the job pretty quickly.
Just... dont boost yourself off the edge... T^T[/COLLAPSE]
C RANK
:linkbrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]bob[/COLLAPSE]
:gwbrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]bob[/COLLAPSE]
:samusbrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]bob[/COLLAPSE]
:lucasbrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]bob[/COLLAPSE]
:lucariobrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]bob[/COLLAPSE]
:luigibrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]bob[/COLLAPSE]
D RANK
:nessbrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]bob[/COLLAPSE]
eachbrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]bob[/COLLAPSE]:robbrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]bob[/COLLAPSE]
:wolfbrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]bob[/COLLAPSE]
:icsbrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]bob[/COLLAPSE]
:olimarbrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]bob[/COLLAPSE]
E RANK
:mariobrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]bob[/COLLAPSE]
:ikebrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]bob[/COLLAPSE]
:ganonbrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]bob[/COLLAPSE]
:falcobrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]bob[/COLLAPSE]
:snakebrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]bob[/COLLAPSE]
F RANK
:toonlinkbrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]bob[/COLLAPSE]
:foxbrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]bob[/COLLAPSE]
itbrawl: [COLLAPSE="my thoughts on how to play"]bob[/COLLAPSE]QUICK "RULES" INSTRUCTIONS
NO ITEMS, NO TIME LIMIT, NO STAGES THAT CAN KILL YOU
anything above three stock would probably drag on so yah 3 STOCK
AND ONE MORE THING!! This isnt exactly a rule but i find that if you set the damage ratio to 1.3 then the battle gets little more fair and alot more exciting!
Ok i think i should get into specifics on how this ladder actually works so
It is pretty much like any other ladder in that you fight the next person up from you for that spot, however it will not be your username that will move up it will be the character you played as
And this can happen any time! If you think the tier list is unjust in anyway then send me your FC and tell me who your playing as and i'll play as the next character up on the ladder
If you win then i'll move your character up, if you lose then you stay, i'll probable request rematches too to see it reversed and whatnot, OH YES AND THIS DOESNT JUST APPLY TO ME You can fight anybody in SPB as long as its by the rules and you give me the results.
JUST ONE WARNING THOUGH
If your gonna fight me or someone else for that matter could you practice a little first? I mean i admit i'm no god player but i suggest practicing this mode a little before going crazy here are some ways that arent too bad
You could fight some CPU's? I find it kinda difficult though cuz they can shield and i cant? But if you fight a lvl 1 then its kinda like beating on a punching bag so...
Or you could play through the subspace emessary again, and i found that one pretty neat! It wasn't unbearably hard on intense either, but still like i said above you should assign an attack button... for the keys
Or you could play online? I mean the people you find out there hardly even know HOW to shield so its not like its that uneven.
So yah... any questions i'll answer here, oh and if this idea has already been invented? or there is a thread similar to this one? Or if you can think of a better place for a thread like this?? Then by all means do tell.