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SSB 4 -Revival

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0Dozzer0

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Greetings,

I'm sure many Avid melee players such as myself have pondered on the thought of a better melee, could such a thing really be possible?

I bring this up since I would love to see a new SSB game that would bring back all the in depth gaming melee had to offer. Unfortunately Brawl is on a completely different playing field compared to melee, and I find in my opinion it has very little to offer and has proven to be rather boring as a multi-player game. Those who think I just didn't put enough time into the game, incorrect, I did but i just found myself enjoying it less and less every day I played, opposite of my melee experience. Now that's my own opinion and I'm sure a lot of people have different thoughts on the matter, which is fine. I'm not posting to start a debate on which game is better.

Upon reading an interesting article by the creator that basically stated melee was just to hard. I really questioned that statement? Now sure just getting into it, it was really hard, but it got easier with more play as did any game right, if not I personally wouldn't consider that a good game especially for replay value. Also no one would have foreseen when melee first came out, all the in depth play hidden within the programming. But now that it was all figured out they went a completely different way with Brawl.

If the game was to hard couldn't the creator implement more of a learning process in the one player with the new game? I mean look at brawl several players learned a lot from the great Single Player Mode. The problem with melee was it didn't have a Single Player Mode, and was fully Multi-Player oriented which pushed away many potential smashers, since if there friends didn't get into it they really didn't have many options with the game. Brawl also implemented online, which allowed for further exploration, something melee also didn't have.

Imagine how many players would be made aware of, and strive to learn all the games techniques if in the single player mode they detailed there own version of an "Advanced How to Play Tutorial" which forced players to learn some techniques to complete certain "missions" , or if they had online play? The game which went from being just to hard(considered basically a button masher) is now a game which enters the realm of being Extremely Versatile to meet every smasher's needs.

Unfortunately I see the melee community dying off a little more every year which is bound to happen no matter what, but I would love see it revived with a new better version. I am the only one left of my friends who would play melee rather then any other video game in the world, and I find it almost impossible to find melee tournaments within reasonable driving distance. I fear soon enough I might put the glove down for this game and place it on my shelf as a trophy of the single greatest game I ever played as I move out of my gaming days. But I don't want this to happen... well at least not yet. I wanna re-live the melee days, with a new and improved melee! I hope if the creator hasn't retired this is something he considers for a new SSB4. Hope others feel the same as well!
 

OkamiBW

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So the thing is that Nintendo will probably not make a new game. It would have to be fan-made. In addition, a more competitive Smash would not really sell as well as Brawl. Everyone wants their favorite characters with good graphics, music, and storyline modes. They don't want a game that has a long shelf life persay.

I also wouldn't consider Melee dying off too much either. In fact, wasn't Pound 4 in 2009 the biggest tournament in all of smash history with like 340 entrants for Melee?

I feel like if another iteration of Smash isn't really necessary if people simply work on hacking the game to make more neutral and counterpick stages to replace Icicle Mountain and Venom and stages like that.
 

0Dozzer0

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didn't read, Sakuri said that no smash game will ever be like Melee since Melee's to hard, didn't you hear?
I did hence why I wish with some persuading he would see other wise, and If the entire melee community displayed how it could be implemented (while still making him a hefty buck) then it just might become a reality. Now I know its a long shot and I also know my post is mostly based on my opinion but hey its worth a try. Wouldn't you other melee players wish the same?
 

0Dozzer0

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So the thing is that Nintendo will probably not make a new game. It would have to be fan-made. In addition, a more competitive Smash would not really sell as well as Brawl. Everyone wants their favorite characters with good graphics, music, and storyline modes. They don't want a game that has a long shelf life persay.

I also wouldn't consider Melee dying off too much either. In fact, wasn't Pound 4 in 2009 the biggest tournament in all of smash history with like 340 entrants for Melee?

I feel like if another iteration of Smash isn't really necessary if people simply work on hacking the game to make more neutral and counterpick stages to replace Icicle Mountain and Venom and stages like that.
I don't mean a twin melee with extra characters and stages I just mean a new SSB with the same physics as melee. As they were altered for the slower game play of Brawl.

About the dying off, I apologize for not having my facts straight then, and I re-word to say the game is dying off amongst my friends.
 

PoundSlap

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Just forget it. Be happy that melee exists and that it will alway exist. The point is that brawl is kinda hard to play,
just if you compare it to melee it looks so easy. But if you leave the biased opinion at home you will see it has a lot of hard techs and deep tactics like sweetspotted fair with captain falcon or all the strats in homerun contest with quadruple bad drops and stuff.
 

0Dozzer0

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Just forget it. Be happy that melee exists and that it will alway exist. The point is that brawl is kinda hard to play,
just if you compare it to melee it looks so easy. But if you leave the biased opinion at home you will see it has a lot of hard techs and deep tactics like sweetspotted fair with captain falcon or all the strats in homerun contest with quadruple bad drops and stuff.
Oh dont worry I am and will always be, so much that I am having my GF for a present buy me a bran new cube, 4 controllers, and melee just to have it On my shelf in case my current system breaks, to know I will always have it :)
 

Dark Hart

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I am in the same boat, but Its not possible to revive the game with friends, and people close by, so I only a new game would re-spark an interest.
No you're not in the same boat. Not to mention, I'm not even in a boat. If you are that's your thing but my friends who aren't competitive love Melee and Brawl equally (for the most part), so I have no problem playing Melee with them and getting them 'interested' in it. You're entertaining the idea of a new Smash Brothers game that's like Melee, I'm not.

EDIT: I'm sorry you friends aren't interested, but that's what these boards are for: to find people who are.
 

ss118

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That is so simple-minded. Look at the big picture; even if ssb4 wasn't melee, but it was based on the melee engine with more characters, if the balance scheme wasn't terribly ****ed up I would play it.

Why? Because just by being the new game, it gets more players and sponsors. Sure it isn't melee, but get over it. I'd rather take the almost perfect game with a huuuuge fanbase than a perfect game with a decreasing fanbase.

Of course, this isn't the case. We are looking at a pretty terrible game with an overloaded fanbase versus a great game with a very specific fanbase.
 

Theftz22

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That is so simple-minded. Look at the big picture; even if ssb4 wasn't melee, but it was based on the melee engine with more characters, if the balance scheme wasn't terribly ****ed up I would play it.

Why? Because just by being the new game, it gets more players and sponsors. Sure it isn't melee, but get over it. I'd rather take the almost perfect game with a huuuuge fanbase than a perfect game with a decreasing fanbase..
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Implying melee is balanced?
 

Grinin

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Whoa, whoa, whoa. Implying melee is balanced?
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Implying Melee is as unbalanced as Brawl's weak *** excuse for balance they call play mk or get over it?


Who wants a new ssb when we have melee? If that's really what you're looking for, look into Project M when it comes out.
 
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