Speed Stance

[Yoichi Hiruma]

...Is it me, or is Speed the least useful form?
Jump can help recover, Shield is great for tanking and quick live saves, Buster racks up damage, and Smash finishes them off, early or otherwise.
Speed just...boosts speed, which is rarely an advantage, at least that's what I've found.

Anyone found any good use for Speed Form?

 

[MarioFireRed]

You go as fast as Sonic and have this beautiful thing that is Shulk's Nair, which has absolutely no ending lag whatsoever if you land before the attack ends. Also it's nice for quick grabs here and there.

 

[Yoichi Hiruma]

You go as fast as Sonic and have this beautiful thing that is Shulk's Nair, which has absolutely no ending lag whatsoever if you land before the attack ends. Also it's nice for quick grabs here and there.

I concede on the quick grabs, but that's all I've ever used it for. I find the uses few and far between.

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

I use Speed just to mess with my opponent. At very low percents (0-10%) with it you can do dthrow > run > nair/fair > jab or jab 1 > regrab

 

[Jade_Rock55]

OK these.pivot Grabs tilts and smashes, chases in combos, shorter jumps and nairs, dashing up smashes, boost grabs(I think I don't know how to boost grab well)

 

[Berserker.]

N-air spamming is also a thing with this art

 

[Hylian]

I think speed is his most useful art. You can combo at any % with this art setting yourself up with good stage position. You can play aggressive or defensive, you can react to your opponent much better..speed is amazing.

 

[Masonomace]

...Is it me, or is Speed the least useful form?
Jump can help recover, Shield is great for tanking and quick live saves, Buster racks up damage, and Smash finishes them off, early or otherwise.
Speed just...boosts speed, which is rarely an advantage, at least that's what I've found.

Anyone found any good use for Speed Form?

It's you. You're not feeling it!
: Why don't you want to play an Art that makes you almost as, exactly, or even faster than ? "That's the Monado's power!"

But really, the pivot grabs, the shield+stopping, dashing+shield option, even playing mind-games to either be aggressive, passive-aggressive for punishes, or strict defensive, you can make your opponent make the first move & with that speed, you can punish any stage-wide mistake they do. Pretty much what Hylian said.

 

[Yoichi Hiruma]

Like, it's not useless, but easily my least used form.
I'm gonna do a Speed Only Run and see if I can start...how you say...really feeling it.

 

[ChronoPenguin]

You go as fast as Sonic and have this beautiful thing that is Shulk's Nair, which has absolutely no ending lag whatsoever if you land before the attack ends. Also it's nice for quick grabs here and there.

Speed is slower then sonic apparently except for extreme speed.
It's Fox level if I understand aeros chart.


The advantage is getting in position to punish and easier follow ups.

 

[Yoichi Hiruma]

The N-Air spamming isn't working for me.
But it's good for combos and on-stage chases.

 

[Hellrazor]

My most used arts:

1. Buster & Smash
2. Speed
3. Jump
4. Shield

Speed's great for rapid hits and locking down/shutting out your opponent. I use it when Buster is down and the enemy's % is too low for a Smash finish, or if the enemy vastly out-speeds Shulk (Fox, Sonic, ZSS, Sheik, etc.). Jump really only helps for getting back to the stage, but I rarely wind up in situations where Shield proves useful. Enemies typically have the knockback to knock me off stage regardless of my defense at high %s, so I usually accept my fate and use either Buster or Speed to pump on as much damage as possible before my inevitable KO (this doesn't apply to last stocks; if I'm down to 1 stock, Shield is obviously my favored option).

Speed + nair->tilt/jab is the way to go a lot of the time. Utilt juggled with speed active are almost as useful with Speed active as with Buster I've found. Never spam nair, though. That's not its purpose. Think of it as a combo opener, like in Killer Instinct (if you've ever played it). Follow it with ground attacks. I've done strings like nair->jab combo->Fsmash (if the enemy doesn't tech-roll)->fair flawlessly several times.

 

[Yoichi Hiruma]

....Does Speed increase Attack Speed as well?
If so, I haven't used it right at all.

 

[Hellrazor]

....Does Speed increase Attack Speed as well?
If so, I haven't used it right at all.

It whittles down end lag, I'm pretty sure. Maybe it's placebo and I'm seeing things, but I'll be damned if attacks don't come out and end quicker.

 

[Jade_Rock55]

I don't think they do...It feels like its just mobility.

 

[Hellrazor]

I don't think they do...It feels like its just mobility.

Looking more closely, yeah, it seems that's the case. I must have just been really feeling the speed and thought I was attacking faster.