Some General Smash questions, Getting started.

[Celph Titled]

I apologize in advance if this is the wrong place to post this, and I really do apologize (I browsed the site a bit, and contemplated posting in the welcome section, but literally no responses got added to threads so I figured I'd post here instead) so feel free to move this if it's in the wrong section.


Basically, I'm interested in getting into the Smash scene. I have little Smash experience, and absolutely NO Project M experience. After watching streams of Melee/PM tournaments for the past month or so, I decided what better place to start then come check the SmashBoards that are always mentioned everywhere.

I have a desire to play the game competitively, and try to get good at it. I actually don't even own a Wii-U yet, but I do plan on purchasing one very soon.

Anyway my questions are as followed:

Where would I get started, after getting Project M. Are there any beginner guides(preferably videos) to learn the 'basics' of competitive Smash?

Does Latency have a big factor in online play in this game? Is it server based, peer to peer, or something else?

Any recommended Threads/sites/articles I should know about as a beginner to the series?



Thanks for any information you guys can give. It's really appreciated. If anyone is interested in maybe answering some questions via Skype or something similar, that'd be awesome as well, but I don't expect that at all.


I really have a desire to play this game competitively. Maybe not compete with the best, but I would like to get good at it, and enter the scene. I'm someone who's played at a top level in Shooters (CS1.6, Halo 2, Halo3, attended multiple MLG events for halo 2, and online warrior'd halo 3) as well as League of Legends (2200 ELO+ Since season 1, diamond 1 season 3)

I really feel like this game's community is a lot less toxic, more fun, and would be an all around more enjoyable group of players to hang with. I have the desire and motivation to be good, but just maybe lack some of the time that others have.


Thanks again to everyone

 

[9bit]

I recommend this YouTube playlist for getting started. The videos are based off Melee and Brawl (kinda) but they apply to PM: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLE7FLjIqPbmhWNfClQTNg_rZTMIq-yW8w

 

[Celph Titled]

I recommend this YouTube playlist for getting started. The videos are based off Melee and Brawl (kinda) but they apply to PM: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLE7FLjIqPbmhWNfClQTNg_rZTMIq-yW8w

Thanks for that, definitely will check them out.

How different are the 3, and which has the largest audience? I feel like if I had a way to get into Melee I would, but since there is no online capability (is there, like an xbox connect but for GC?) I would have no way of getting good haha.

 

[Zujx]

Thanks for that, definitely will check them out.

How different are the 3, and which has the largest audience? I feel like if I had a way to get into Melee I would, but since there is no online capability (is there, like an xbox connect but for GC?) I would have no way of getting good haha.

Melee has a lot of skills that you can transfer over to P:M
Brawl + 64 are drastically different than them but, some skills still transfer over

The largest scene is arguably melee, but P:M is much newer I would say is the more rapidly growing crowd & it's becoming just as large

You seem to want to get into the online play of this game more so than the local
which is cool but, some things you should know

Nintendo shut down its Online servers for the Wii recently, they're are fan-made hacked servers you can play on
(from what I've heard) Regardless online on Wii kind of sucks Is fun but, latency is indeed a massive problem.

They're is a better alternative though
and that is Dolphin Netplay
if you play via computer which has a great following the online runs smoothly and the latency problems are nearly non-existent
It's not as much of a just hop in and play online thing such as halo

If you like competition and passionate players you came to the right place
because we are more or less completely insane

 

[Y-L]

Definitely check out Netplay if your cpu can handle it. Check out the link in my siggy for the run down. Lots of people to play and negligible lag.

A good place to start is watching melee tutorials as a lot of the techniques like wavedashing and L canceling transfer.

Try to play as many humans as possible it's the best way to learn.

 

[Celph Titled]

Melee has a lot of skills that you can transfer over to P:M
Brawl + 64 are drastically different than them but, some skills still transfer over

The largest scene is arguably melee, but P:M is much newer I would say is the more rapidly growing crowd & it's becoming just as large

You seem to want to get into the online play of this game more so than the local
which is cool but, some things you should know

Nintendo shut down its Online servers for the Wii recently, they're are fan-made hacked servers you can play on
(from what I've heard) Regardless online on Wii kind of sucks Is fun but, latency is indeed a massive problem.

They're is a better alternative though
and that is Dolphin Netplay
if you play via computer which has a great following the online runs smoothly and the latency problems are nearly non-existent
It's not as much of a just hop in and play online thing such as halo

If you like competition and passionate players you came to the right place
because we are more or less completely insane

Thanks very much man. I actually went about getting everything set up last night, just waiting on my Controller and my Transport cable to get here (Learning the characters in the meantime on an xbox controller lol)

My question for Dolphin Netplay is:

Is there any sort of Match-Making? Without having some sort of match-making service, I fear that when I join someone's lobby (or host one) They'll just quit because they'd be stomping me (well, I imagine most people would at first.)

I am very fluent with IRC and have checked out the IRC channel listed on the P:M setup page, but aside from that is there any other way to get into matches?


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Definitely check out Netplay if your cpu can handle it. Check out the link in my siggy for the run down. Lots of people to play and negligible lag.

A good place to start is watching melee tutorials as a lot of the techniques like wavedashing and L canceling transfer.

Try to play as many humans as possible it's the best way to learn.

I appreciate the advice man, I watched a bunch of videos last night, unfortunately I have to wait for my GC controller to get here from Amazon in the meantime haha. I'll just study up

 

[Celph Titled]

Bumpity bump, still looking for more information