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SmashCAP 3: Revisions

UltiMario

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Well, as we all know, Zook was a failed CAP in most regards. The sprites are bad (someone help.... please?), and Multitype is impossible to recode to our whims to function as planned.

Now, this thread is for submitting ideas for tweaking Zook to fix his issues.

Zook's current status is:

Type: Normal/Ghost
Ability: Multitype
Stats: 100 / 55 / 60 / 140 / 90 / 70 | BST: 515

[collapse=moves]
Zook's Moves:
Level-up moves:
Lv. -- Astonish
Lv. -- Glare
Lv. -- Metal Sound
Lv.05 Scratch
Lv.09 Confuse Ray
Lv.14 Spite
Lv.18 Poison Tail
Lv.23 Mirror Shot
Lv.27 Ominous Wind
Lv.32 Curse
Lv.38 Aura Sphere
Lv.44 Tri Attack
Lv.50 Shadow Ball
Lv.57 Memento
Lv.65 Mirror Coat
Lv.73 Hyper Voice


TM Moves:
TM01- Focus Punch
TM05- Roar
TM06- Toxic
TM10- Hidden Power
TM11- Sunny Day
TM12- Taunt
TM13- Ice Beam
TM15- Hyper Beam
TM17- Protect
TM18- Rain Dance
TM20- Safeguard
TM21- Frustration
TM23- Iron Tail
TM24- Thunderbolt
TM27- Return
TM29- Psychic
TM30- Shadow Ball
TM32- Double Team
TM34- Shock Wave
TM41- Torment
TM42- Facade
TM43- Secret Power
TM44- Rest
TM45- Attract
TM46- Theif
TM49- Snatch
TM52- Focus Blast
TM53- Energy Ball
TM56- Fling
TM58- Endure
TM61- Will-o-Wisp
TM65- Shadow Claw
TM66- Payback
TM68- Giga Impact
TM70- Flash
TM75- Swords Dance
TM77- Psych Up
TM79- Dark Pulse
TM82- Sleep Talk
TM85- Dream Eater
TM87- Swagger
TM90- Substitute
TM91- Flash Cannon
HM04- Strength

Move Tutor:
Fire Punch
Ice Punch
Thunderpunch
Knock Off
Ominous Wind
Sucker Punch
Zen Headbutt
Trick
Last Resort
Snore
Spite
Swift
Uproar
Iron Head
Signal Beam
Pain Split
Gravity
Headbutt

Egg group:
Indeterminate

Egg moves:
Male only, N/A [/collapse]



Now, this thread is for putting out suggestions for fixing up Zook. So, we'll all throw out ideas, then have a poll on them in the end (unless a decision is unanimously made within the thread).

I'll put out my suggestions first. Zook has a few problems, but type isn't one of them. Quite frankly, Normal/Ghost is decent typing, and even with bad STABs, boasting such a high attacking stat is certainly balancing... especially with Adaptability boosting the STABs even higher. It lets Zook hit hard like he was designed for, while keeping him signature Normal/Ghost typing. I was thinking about having a secondary ability of Levitate, but it certainly isn't necessary.

Now, those horrendous, HORRENDOUS stats. Those need to be fixed for no longer having freedom of type.

Stats: 105 / 55 / 80 / 140 / 90 / 85 | BST: 555

This buffs Zook's Defense and speed to acceptable levels, and keeps his huge SpA stat, while not hitting a stat total that is more of legendaries.

Also, without STAB ever happening, Vacuum Wave is now more acceptable even with the monstrous SpA stat, so I say that can safely be put into the movepool.

If anyone else feels like arguing against or agreeing with my suggestions, go ahead. If anyone wants to present their own idea, go ahead.

The goal is to make Zook viable. We will.
 

Terywj [태리]

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This could've been easily saved for when we do revisions on the first three SmashCAP. But I guess you guys can start brainstorming now, to save time later or something.
 

Circa

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This could've been easily saved for when we do revisions on the first three SmashCAP. But I guess you guys can start brainstorming now, to save time later or something.
Considering that Zook's problem stems from things we simply can't do, I disagree with waiting. It's less that the SmashCAP didn't hold up to expectations as it is the SmashCAP went "unfinished". This merits an early revision, in my book.

I'll maybe think of some changes later. I don't remember what all Zook got, so I need to review that before giving any suggestions.
 

UltiMario

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I really don't wanna pull a Tery and put a timer on this to get responses.

This is a big deal, let's get it done. :/
 

Terywj [태리]

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Keep discussions to a stat spread level for now. That would be the best idea.

Also, retitle the thread as "SmashCAP 3: Revisions".
 

UltiMario

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Of course, and done.

STILL SAYING THE SAME THINGS ABOUT THE SPREAD UP THERE YEP.
 

mood4food77

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zook has a good typing, i don't really think you have to change it's bulk, it's got 3 immunities, 2 to very common attack types, he also only has 1 weakness (dark) which is only used on a few pokes

i think he speed is really the only thing that needed to be changed and i'm going to give him a little more of a boost than you have

but the added defense is more than welcome to him so i'm going with this:

100/55/80/140/90/90 = 555 BST
 
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