SmashCAP 2: Theorymon

[Terywj [태리]]

[SmashCAP 2]

Concept: Type Representation
Name: Lilibelle
Type:

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Ability: Shield Dust / Immunity
Base stats: 121 / 55 /127 / 90 / 103 / 64
Sprites:

Movepool:
[collapse=Movepool]STAB
Competative

Level-up
00 Cotton Spore
00 Hypnosis
03 Vine Whip
05 Mean Look
08 Night Shade
11 Confuse Ray
15 Stun Spore
19 Leech Seed
23 Magical Leaf
27 Ominous Wind
31 Shadow Sneak
35 Petal Dance
39 Destiny Bond
44 Worry Seed
49 Memento
55 Shadow Ball

TMs & HMs:
TM06 Toxic
TM09 Bullet Seed
TM10 Hidden Power
TM11 Sunny Day
TM15 Hyper Beam
TM16 Light Screen
TM17 Protect
TM19 Giga Drain
TM20 Safeguard
TM21 Frustration
TM22 Solarbeam
TM24 Thunderbolt
TM27 Return
TM29 Psychic
TM30 Shadow Ball
TM32 Double Team
TM36 Sludge Bomb
TM41 Torment
TM43 Secret Power
TM44 Rest
TM45 Attract
TM48 Skill Swap
TM52 Focus Blast
TM53 Energy Ball
TM61 Will-o-Wisp
TM63 Embargo
TM68 Giga Impact
TM70 Flash
TM78 Captivate
TM79 Dark Pulse
TM82 Sleep Talk
TM83 Natural Gift
TM86 Grass Knot
TM90 Substitute
TM92 Trick Room

Tutor:
Synthesis
Seed Bomb
Spite
Air Cutter
Trick
Knock Off
Ominous Wind
Last Resort
Snore
Swift
Mud Slap
Worry Seed
Headbutt
Pain Split

Egg:
Plant/Indeterminate

Egg Moves:
Leaf Storm (Families: Turtwig/Bulbasaur/Exeggcute/Tangela/Chikorita/Treeko/Budew |Other: Shiftry/Tropius/Wormadam-G/Bellossom)
Grudge (Families: Misdreavus/Shuppet/Ghastly/Koffing/Ralts/Duskull)
Sleep Powder (Families: Bulbasaur/Oddish/Bellsprout/Exeggcute/Hoppip/Tangela/Budew)
Aromatherapy (Families: Paras/Chikorita/Cherubi | Other: Roselia+Roserade/Vileplume)
Imprison (Families: Ralts/Grimer/Misdreavus/Shuppet/Duskull)
Perish Song (Families: Misdreavus/Ghastly)[/collapse]

What can we work with here? I know there's a lot going on but this gives us something to get our hands on in the meantime that I await the orders from Spire to begin SmashCAP 3.

That said, defensive approaches are simply a must when it comes to Lilibelle.

-Terywj

 

[Metal~Mario]

Hmmmm....

Ulti should copypasta his 10 or 12 sets for Lilibelle here.

To save time.

Inactive poke-memory killed my gimmicky set. I'll try to remember it....

 

[UltiMario]

Copypasta:

Mixed Defensive Subseed:

Lilibelle@Leftovers
Calm / Shield Dust
252Def/4SpA/252SpD
Substitute
Leech Seed
Shadow Ball
Grass Knot / Thunderbolt

Specially Defensive/Special Threat Eliminating Subseed:

Lilibelle@Leftovers
Calm / Shield Dust
144HP/112SpA/252SpD
Substitute
Leech Seed
Thunderbolt / Sleep Powder
Shadow Ball

Stall:

Lilibelle@Leftovers
Calm / Immunity
4HP/252Def/252SpD
Leech Seed
Toxic
Protect
Pain Split / Thunderbolt / Grass Knot

Trick Room:

Lilibelle@Leftovers/Focus Sash (Depends on where it is in team/what you’re afraid of)
Sassy (Relaxed) / Shield Dust
252HP/144Def/112SpD (252 HP/4Def/252SpD)
0 Spe IV
Trick Room
Sleep Powder
Knock Off / Destiny Bond / Will-O-Wisp / Leaf Storm
Knock Off / Destiny Bond / Will-O-Wisp / Leaf Storm

Status:

Lilibelle@Leftovers
Calm / Shield Dust
252HP/144Def/36SpD/76Spe
Toxic
Will-O-Wisp / Stun Spore
Sleep Powder
Grass Knot / Shadow Ball / Thunderbolt

TrickScarf:

Lilibelle@Choice Scarf
Timid / Shield Dust
252HP/20SpA/236Spe
Trick
Sleep Powder
Leaf Storm
Shadow Ball

Life Orb:

Lilibelle@Life Orb
Timid / Shield Dust
64HP/252SpA/192Spe (32Def/252SpA/36SDef/188Spe w/ Pain Split)
Grass Knot
Shadow Ball
Thunderbolt
HP Fire / Pain Split

Choice Scarf:

Lilibelle@Choice Scarf
Timid / Shield Dust
20HP/252SpA/236Spe
Leaf Storm
Thunderbolt
Shadow Ball
Trick

Choice Specs:

Lilibelle@Choice Specs
Timid / Shield Dust
68HP/252SpA/188Spe
Leaf Storm
Thunderbolt
Shadow Ball
Focus Blast

Cleric:

Lilibelle@Leftovers
Calm / Shield Dust
4HP/252Def/252SpD
Aromatherapy
Leech Seed / Pain Split
Night Shade
Toxic / Sleep Powder / Will-o-Wisp / Stun Spore

Perish Trapper:

Lilibelle@Leftovers
Calm (Bold) / Shield Dust
252HP/144Def/112SpD (252HP/4Def/52SpD)
Mean Look
Perish Song
Protect
Substitute / Leech Seed / Pain Split

 

[supermarth64]

Posting to say that a simple 252 Def / 252 SpD spread gives less than optimal defenses.

Use either 252 HP / 64 Def / 192 SpD with a +SpD nature to get 446 HP / 306 Def / 319 SpD or a 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD with a +Def nature to get 446 HP / 320 Def / 305 SpD.

 

[Wave⁂]

0 HP is pretty cool with Leech Seed and / or Pain Split, though. But I agree, they are less than optimal.

 

[UltiMario]

0HP is just about needed when running Leech Seed due to High HP stat.

For sets that don't care about that, I remember putting 252HP/144Def/112SpD +SpD to specifically survive some of the biggest threats to Lilibelle (TTar, Rotom, etc) as effectively as possible and be able to strike back and win.

I'm sure supermarth knows the math better than i do and has an overall more optimal spread, but my spreads are overall more specifically built to deal with what Lilibelle is going to be seeing most.

Not sure who's spreads are better for the job from this, though.

 

[Metal~Mario]

List both EV spreads then.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Once we can get our servers we can find out, and work out revisions if we need them.

-Terywj