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Smashboards Rankings Update - Categories and Points

This year, the tournament cycle for Super Smash Brothers is looking impressive. This is why the Rankings Team constantly looks for ways to improve the system. Our focus for this update included making the allocation of points given between the multiple categories correlate much more accurately. In other words, the points a participant receives depending on their performance across the tournament categories is more accurate than ever! For those familiar with our system, you may have already noticed these changes.

Categories and Points Allocated
  1. Local - Points given will reach a cap at 400. The minimum number of players required to classify a tournament in this category is 8. It also includes a modifier that scales at 5 points per player which hits its maximum at 80 entrants.
  2. Regional - Points given will reach a cap at 800. The minimum number of players required to classify a tournament in this category approximately 40; depends on the region. It also includes a modifier that scales at 8 points per player which hits its maximum at 100 entrants.
  3. National - Constant points given value of 2400. The minimum number of entrants required for this category is approximately 120 depending on various variables. Frequency of these types of tournaments are also considered when applying the category.
  4. International - Constant points given value of 2700. The minimum number of entrants required for this category is approximately 225 depending on various variables such as pot bonuses, top talent, etc.
  5. Global - Constant point given value of 3150. This category requires over 300 entrants. Also depends on various variables such as pot bonuses, top talent, etc.
  6. Premier - Constant points given value of 3450. This category is given at the discretion of the Rankings Staff. Tournaments that would fall under this category would include the Evolution Championship Series and the past APEX events; to name a few as examples.
It is important to note that the Regional Category now includes a modifier as mentioned above. When submitting Top X brackets into the Smashboards Rankings System, make sure you indicate the Total Number of Players that participated at your event in the Total Players entry field.

At the start of the article, it was mentioned that these categories now have a correlation between points given to the various placings participants can achieve across categories. This is reflected starting from the Regional Category. Here is an example assuming max number of entrants for a Regional and only viewing the Top 48. The values that appear in bold highlight which placings are approximately equivalent in value.
Placing | Regional | National | International | Global | Premier
1 | 800 | 2400 | 2700 | 3150 | 3450
2 | 700 | 2160 | 2430 | 2835 | 3105
3 | 600 | 1920 | 2160 | 2520 | 2760
4 | 500 | 1728 | 1998 | 2331 | 2553
5 | 400 | 1536 | 1836 | 2142 | 2346
7 | 288 | 1344 | 1674 | 1953 | 2139
9 | 192 | 1152 | 1512 | 1764 | 1932
13 | 128 | 960 | 1296 | 1512 | 1656
17 | 80 | 768 | 1080 | 1260 | 1380
25 | 40 | 576 | 972 | 1134 | 1242
33 | 16 | 384 | 648 | 756 | 828
This concludes the Rankings Update for March of 2016. Interested in the work that we do at the Rankings Staff, or have any suggestions on how we can improve? Let us know at the Tournament Rankings sub-forum. If you are interested in joining our team, make sure to choose Rankings Team under the Application Forms!

Huge shout-out to Vestboy_Myst Vestboy_Myst and @Gtown_Tom for all the work that they did to bring you this update.
 

Comments

As of this posting some of the leagues haven't been regenerated with the new values, and some take several hours to complete. By 9PM tonight all of the games except Melee will be done recalculating, and Melee should be ready sometime around midnight. Be sure to check the 'last updated' time for each ranking to be sure.

Just this time, the red/green arrows you see will show the changes between old and new values. They do not reflect a significant recent drop in performance of the players as they normally would. (The system still uses the 10 best results in the last 12 months to calculate a player's score)

EDIT
all the leagues have been rebuilt except melee, there is a problem that is causing it to crash 95% of the way through every time we try rebuilding it. it should be fixed and updated soon, sorry for the delay.
 
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It would be cool to see other tournament host sites such as battlefy.com added to the list for bracket submission as well.
 
It would be cool to see other tournament host sites such as battlefy.com added to the list for bracket submission as well.
Supporting other websites for bracket submission is something that is already being worked on. In the meantime you can always manually recreate results in the uploader if they aren't too big
 
Well, at least now I know how points are attributed. The difference between International and Global seems pretty nebulous though.
 
Vestboy_Myst Vestboy_Myst Well I meant more in the categorization criteria, like what makes a tournament International vs Global. I guess from the post I'd surmise it's the amount of pot bonus?
 
Do you guys receive full or partial brackets?
By that, what do you mean specifically? Top X brackets, the whole tournament? If so, it depends on what the user uploads. Most of the time it's full results. Sometimes, it's top X brackets. In the cases that it is a top X bracket, the uploader can indicate the total amount of players in an entry field that appears on the submission form. For major tournaments, the Rankings Team usually documents and uploads it themselves; and those include full results.
 
By that, what do you mean specifically? Top X brackets, the whole tournament? If so, it depends on what the user uploads. Most of the time it's full results. Sometimes, it's top X brackets. In the cases that it is a top X bracket, the uploader can indicate the total amount of players in an entry field that appears on the submission form. For major tournaments, the Rankings Team usually documents and uploads it themselves; and those include full results.
Full tournament versus partial results is what I meant. I have the documentation, code, and implementation results for a win loss ELO type ranking system, and was curious about the kind of data smashboards takes in.

After my graduation this term, I'm considering applying for the rankings team in the event that there's interest in a second system that's based on direct player v player interaction.
 
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