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Smash Bros speculations are a joke!

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Hippopotasauce

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It's less what people expect and more what people want.
Not like there's much else to talk about in the way of new content.
 

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You know what else is a joke?

EVERYTHING!!!
 

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Although it's clear the OP is probably trying to troll (he made a new account and his first post is basically telling us how useless half of Smashboards is?), I can't help but feel inclined to agree with him, on some level at least. Out-of-the-blue characters like Wii Fit Trainer prove that even with our most thorough speculation, we'll always miss the most obvious franchises, characters and ideas.

Not only that, but I've said it in another thread and I'll say it again here - although he doesn't always get things perfect, I think in many ways Sakurai knows what we really want in a Smash Bros. game far better than we do, which often means our predictions and hopes are slightly skewed. Pokemon Trainer is an example of a character that was staring us smack in the face the whole time (the guy is the protagonist of the original games and has shown up in all 5 generations of Pokemon so far) but few of us went out of our way to predict. R.O.B., likewise, is a character that many wouldn't have initially asked for (he had his supporters, don't get me wrong) but is so crucial to Nintendo's history that it'd be stupid for him to not be there. Same goes for a number of other characters - Mr. Game and Watch was completely unpredictable, Villager had his supporters but wasn't way up there in popularity (despite the Animal Crossing franchise being one of Nintendo's biggest); Zero Suit was effective in illustrating the other half of Samus's personality that's been there since the NES (Justin Bailey anyone? :p) and Falcon was probably not the most well-known character before Smash 64 but now that he's been in the series for 3 games, I don't think we'd have it any other way.

I'm not saying Sakurai gets everything right (tripping wut) but he does seem to be pretty much one step ahead of us in choosing unique, mostly-important characters as well as making sure the roster is coherent and fits together nicely. Too often people make suggestions of characters without thinking about just what kind of impact that character has on the roster, who that character is competing with (limited roster spots and all that) and how it will all fit together. In that sense, yes, I'd say Smash Bros. speculation is a bit redundant because we're always going to be making stabs in the dark, but at the end of the day, it's all a bit of good fun.
 

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Although it's clear the OP is probably trying to troll (he made a new account and his first post is basically telling us how useless half of Smashboards is?), I can't help but feel inclined to agree with him, on some level at least. Out-of-the-blue characters like Wii Fit Trainer prove that even with our most thorough speculation, we'll always miss the most obvious franchises, characters and ideas.

Not only that, but I've said it in another thread and I'll say it again here - although he doesn't always get things perfect, I think in many ways Sakurai knows what we really want in a Smash Bros. game far better than we do, which often means our predictions and hopes are slightly skewed. Pokemon Trainer is an example of a character that was staring us smack in the face the whole time (the guy is the protagonist of the original games and has shown up in all 5 generations of Pokemon so far) but few of us went out of our way to predict. R.O.B., likewise, is a character that many wouldn't have initially asked for (he had his supporters, don't get me wrong) but is so crucial to Nintendo's history that it'd be stupid for him to not be there. Same goes for a number of other characters - Mr. Game and Watch was completely unpredictable, Villager had his supporters but wasn't way up there in popularity (despite the Animal Crossing franchise being one of Nintendo's biggest); Zero Suit was effective in illustrating the other half of Samus's personality that's been there since the NES (Justin Bailey anyone? :p) and Falcon was probably not the most well-known character before Smash 64 but now that he's been in the series for 3 games, I don't think we'd have it any other way.

I'm not saying Sakurai gets everything right (tripping wut) but he does seem to be pretty much one step ahead of us in choosing unique, mostly-important characters as well as making sure the roster is coherent and fits together nicely. Too often people make suggestions of characters without thinking about just what kind of impact that character has on the roster, who that character is competing with (limited roster spots and all that) and how it will all fit together. In that sense, yes, I'd say Smash Bros. speculation is a bit redundant because we're always going to be making stabs in the dark, but at the end of the day, it's all a bit of good fun.
Wii Fit Trainer makes sense though so its not out of the blue
 

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Wii Fit Trainer makes sense though so its not out of the blue
Exactly, that's what I mean! It's not really 'out of the blue' because in retrospect, it was such a logical choice (representing one of Nintendo's best financial decisions in years) and was pretty much staring us right in the face, yet none of us managed to see it coming. That's precisely what I was getting at - sometimes we as fans get so caught up in our personal wants and speculation that we just don't see the truly obvious and/or logical choices.
 

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First post of most character threads said:
This is the character I want in
- I think they are the most popular character for some reason
- Rated high on a poll which wasn't a poll at all
- Their game was "popular" which means this characters is a shoe-in
- I have no regard for whether or not this character has anything to offer in the way of FUN, UNIQUE, INTERESTING gameplay
- I have no idea what I am talking about in any way what-so-ever
 

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My opinion is objectively right, your opinion is wrong.
Stop disagreeing with me.
 

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All of you dumb people should stop talking.

I'm the only smart one, so I'm the only one allowed to talk.
 

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Masahiro Sakurai's grandfather likes gardening -> creator of Kid Icarus -> Eggplant Wizard confirmed
 

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Quit speculating it's stupid just ask me who's going to be in
I'll confirm all the newcomers for you it's easy watch
I like Jimmy T. Confirmed.
What do you mean I have no evidence? You're so rude
I'm gonna ignore u if u don't quit
*ignore*

*Cycle starts again with different user*
 

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Hey, at least people have a snippet of realism this time around. Some people were just hell bent on having a roster of 50 characters pre-Brawl, which is unlikely we'll even get this time around. I'm actually rather impressed with the community this time.
 

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Hey, at least people have a snippet of realism this time around. Some people were just hell bent on having a roster of 50 characters pre-Brawl, which is unlikely we'll even get this time around. I'm actually rather impressed with the community this time.
In the clouds.
 

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Hey, at least people have a snippet of realism this time around. Some people were just hell bent on having a roster of 50 characters pre-Brawl, which is unlikely we'll even get this time around. I'm actually rather impressed with the community this time.
I imagine people made the 50 character assumption because Melee had near-about double the character Smash 64 had, and people assumed the next game would follow suit. Anybody who has any semblance of knowledge concerning game development knows that this is faulty logic, but hey, nothing can stop the Smash community from looking for patterns where there aren't any. :troll:
 

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Proof of this!
*During the Brawl days*
Some dude: RAY MK IS VERY LIKELY TO GET IN!
*Ray is an assist trophy*

YESH! YESH!
The Reason why i dont visit ''Roster Prediction/Discussion & Cut Threads''

Also Sakurai went back on his word about Villager so we cant be blamed...it was a low blow...

Atleast we got Megaman right.

If you think about it the 3 chars revealed were perfect in 3 big main points.

Villager - Someone who got scrapped and was deemed impossible was re thought

Megaman - who we expected the main push in hype what we wanted

WFT - Out the blue unexpected sakurai even said ''i bet you werent expecting that!'' but appropriate still.
 

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do you know what's a joke? GamesRadar.

SERIOUSLY? cutting MARTH? because of RECENCY? Idiots.
 

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do you know what's a joke? GamesRadar.

SERIOUSLY? cutting MARTH? because of RECENCY? Idiots.
The relevancy freaks... *hits "dislike" button*

Honestly, I stopped watching the video when they said Marth would be cut.
 

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Smash Bros speculations are a joke!
It's not like anyone here is claiming that that these speculations are actually going to accomplish anything. The whole point of this speculation and what not is to make the wait for the game more bearable. We know petitions and more official campaigns are the way to go to request a character - that's not what this is about.
 
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