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Use your long reach. Ike has a long sword and when timed right, you can hit Mac without being in danger yourself. Mac is a close-range fighter so he has no other option than being close to you. Also use that nifty neutral air as it hits pretty far away.
Mac players are adept at punishing pretty much anything from a range too, though. I heard he gives Marth trouble because of his armor. And as far as recovery options go, Macs seem to be good if they don't get hit in the air before reaching the ledge.
Super armor can also be used defensively, that's true. The key is to time it right so that you can take advantage of the endlag of his smashes (particularly up smash and forward smash to a lesser extent). Bait a lot and condition him for this. Macs also use forward tilt and down tilt for spacing but Ike has a slightly longer reach (and priority, I think) so you would win the exchange.
I feel Little Mac can go toe-to-toe with all of those characters, but I'm not so sure against that player. I wish you the best of luck.
Sonic huh?
Although for this MU, most Sonic's will mostly use it as a way to mind game with you rather than as a damage tool. Watch out for the B-throw when you are close to the edge. It can't KO as easily as Ness' can, but its certainly up there in terms of how good it is. Also watch out for Up throw, at higher percents any decent sonic player will take the opportunity to do the up air follow-up and KO you at the ceiling. lol. But really though, this matchup is either a 65-45 or 70-30 Sonic's way.
There's really no reason you should be getting hit by FLUDD or the cape if you recover low. Personally I don't use Jolt Haymaker in any match-up unless my opponent aggressively pursues me off stage and my opponent isn't expecting Jolt Haymaker.
It's not easy. In this match-up Mario wants to stay in the air most of the time using either dAir or bAir. dAir is stupidly safe and sets up for juggles if it lands. bAir has little endlag and he'll usually space it right so you can't shield grab him and he'll probably just double jump away rather than land next to you.
given how Little Mac is generally an air fighter, I would imagine that platforms generally hinder Little Mac, however, the metagame is constantly finding news air option for Mac as the metagame goes on. Things like his buffered (or non-buffered) K.O. air uppercut can prove to be fun. Then there's his dair jab lock, which combos perfectly into his sweet spot up smash. In short, I agree that we need to take into account stage as well as the MU.
If you know what's good for you, you will never pick SV, and will ban it every set you play in.
Alphicans
on how good Little Mac is on Battlefield. Wrote a guide on the stage for LM myself. And I can somewhat see is interest in Lylat. The platforms are really easy to pressure and you can get a lot of follow ups as people attempt to get back on the floor. Buuuut Lylat's ledges are incredibly difficult to snap onto. Little Mac has severely limited recovery options AND Lylat is very strict about how you can recover. This makes Little Mac's recovery paths even more predictable and even easier to gimp.
I don't know what's good for me. Just started using Mac.
To throw my two cents in, I feel Halberd or T&C are LM's best stages.
Slightly off topic, but what rulesets are banning duckhunt? Is he becoming really good too? Like, I know he's a good camper, but I thought we were discovering some glaring flaws with him too! Is he like Diddy good or something?
Duckhunt the stage, not Duckhunt Dog :x
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, I see. Thanks for the clear up. :3
You can also jab the banana, and roll towards or away from it.
lol
Not Lylat?
Them triple posts tho ^
The option of punching the banana's slipped my mind! Rolling towards or away from it can be a pain, as you are allowing him to set up the banana in that spot and gain control.
Castle Siege is pretty bad for us in theory. But it's a stage I've done pretty well on against high-level players. I'll need to find more people to practice on that stage with to come to a better conclusion.
I'd consider the matchup even. Jabs just beats so many of Diddy's options. If you just hold down the jab button Little Mac spams those one-frame punches. These destroy bananas, out range and beat Diddy's dash grab, and it also beats out Monkey Flip if Diddy uses it close range. It's also worth noting you can use side smash's super armor to move through banana peels without slipping.
I'm definitely up for someone showing me why the stage is so bad. My NNID is VenksUSA. What time are you free to play?
I'll definately have to start jabbing against diddy more. What about regular grabs>Air Combo's though? Diddy can get in on Little Mac pretty safely most of the time, and that usually allows for a free grab or punish for him.
Other than using Jabs to beat most of his moves, what else do you do to deal with Diddy's approaches? I'm sure you don't sit there and Jab all day. Are you saying that you should play Little Mac in a defensive playstyle against Diddy, throwing out attacks when able and keeping him out? What if Diddy short hop fairs you at close distance? How do you condition for the fast fall air dodge?
