Shine to grab?

[Fritter]

I see Mango do it a lot in Genesis 2, he dairs then shines then grabs. Am I looking at this the wrong way? Cause I cant do this technique.

 

[Bones0]

Just think of it as a jump-cancelled grab. It feels the same as a regular JC'd grab, but it follows a shine. Alternatively, you can think of it as simply grabbing before you jump. Every time you jump, there are 5 frames that Falco spends crouched before he actually becomes airborne. It is during those frames that you can input a grab to JC grab.

The buttons you use may vary slightly, but it will end up being some version of: Down-B, Y, Z

If you don't know how to JC grabs yet, just go into training and practice. Run across the stage, and input a jump followed immediately by a grab. You can tell you're doing it right when you don't do your running grab (which is slower, hence the whole reason for using JC'd grabs).

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[ruhtraeel]

just like press down-b and then XZ almost at the same time (X first)

I use X to jump

 

[Wenbobular]

Control stick is generally much faster for JC out of shine, just press Up + Z after down-b

 

[Veetaak]

If you are new to falco or the game in general then I suggest you go to the falco stickied thread among others to learn stuff. I don't know how updated those are though...

 

[Fritter]

Lol I'm only new to the forums, but I know how to do basic falco tech.
Thanks for the help though! :D

 

[Pi]

Control stick is generally much faster for JC out of shine, just press Up + Z after down-b

don't confuse the boy, there's no difference

 

[Wenbobular]

~_~
I guess I could just be really bad at getting from B to jump, but whatever

 

[Bones0]

I use B -> Y and have no issues. Assuming you didn't whiff the shine, you have 4 frames of hitlag to get to Y, which shouldn't be too hard with practice.

 

[bossa nova ♪]

i feel like it's trickier to be simultaneous with the control stick.... cuz it's a control stick



either way, this technique and double shine are two that i think every falco should have in their mix-up game. extremely effective stuff. and shine grab is fairly easy to pull off once you first get the hang of it.

 

[Rush]

Once you are able to JC Grab it's pretty easy to shine-grab. I suggest JC Grab out of the shine the same way you do a regular JC Grab. Control-stick up and Z can be hit faster when Shine-grabbing, but it's not the most consistent as you might up-b and it's not ideal to do control-stick up and Z to do regular JC Grab. Either Y or X is fine. If you're starting out, I suggest choosing Y because it's closer to B and might help with other techniques.

That being said, whatever feels comfortable for you is the method you should use.