F5Hazardousdoc
Smash Ace
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Any tips? From fighting my good friend Shadowth7, I've noticed a few things in samus's attack pattern, but I've only been able to punish with my main, snake. Those are:
Pros:
Lots of true combos *aka auto-canceled dair or fair into dtilt or uptilt or up b*
Canceling the lag on missiles allows for nice setup moves
Has high mobility, and quick dodges *bomb dodging SUCKS... stinking morph ball*
Spike move is perhaps one of the best in the game
Can recover well, due to bomb jumping and stalling
Extra floaty makes it hard to combo her, and lets her combo better
Cons:
Low killing power
Footstool = dead
Light weight allows for easy kills
Floatyness keeps her vulnerable in the air
Somewhat predictable approaches, and VERY predictable defense
Ok, the lowdown on what my snake has cracked into the armor of samus:
Samus's ground moves are lacking in range, but the fsmash is the main worry, despite its laggyness in throwing out.
Also, biggest thing I've noticed is most of samus's moves are preceded by a shorthop or a bomb getting laid down. You're not gonna be hitting samus with any low moves often.
Also, grapple beam, amazing range, can be combod with missiles and beam and other moves *dash attack sometimes*
How my snake reacts: I approach with nairs. Punches through missles, and has heavy damage. Utilts stop approaches quickly, and make her vulnerable in the air. When camping the edge, I place c4s down to utilze its massive low hitbox, trust me, I've stage spiked many a shiek and lucario this way. I've also noticed that samus's love BF, because the platforms let them up b through em, as well as protects them from people dropping down on them. That's a weakness too.
Now... we need a FALCON counter to samus. Let the brainstorming begin!
As for me, I believe that approaching with nair and falcon kick could help. Just as long as you don't get predictable and start eating dairs or bairs. Your jab breaks missles, and I have yet to see if falcon can duck under grapple with his crouch. Needless to say, You'll be shielding ALOT here. Once samus is off the stage, focus on spiking her, not uairs *doesn't mean you can't* Her vertical recovery isn't astonishing, I've gimped samus with fox's reflector and she couldn't come back
Force samus to play a close range game, and BEWARE OF Dtilt DURING A JAB COMBO. Trust me, I've lost matches because of this. I think falcon can make this work, his speed and power can make samus nervous of getting early killed by the elbow or utilt.
Comments? Additions?
Pros:
Lots of true combos *aka auto-canceled dair or fair into dtilt or uptilt or up b*
Canceling the lag on missiles allows for nice setup moves
Has high mobility, and quick dodges *bomb dodging SUCKS... stinking morph ball*
Spike move is perhaps one of the best in the game
Can recover well, due to bomb jumping and stalling
Extra floaty makes it hard to combo her, and lets her combo better
Cons:
Low killing power
Footstool = dead
Light weight allows for easy kills
Floatyness keeps her vulnerable in the air
Somewhat predictable approaches, and VERY predictable defense
Ok, the lowdown on what my snake has cracked into the armor of samus:
Samus's ground moves are lacking in range, but the fsmash is the main worry, despite its laggyness in throwing out.
Also, biggest thing I've noticed is most of samus's moves are preceded by a shorthop or a bomb getting laid down. You're not gonna be hitting samus with any low moves often.
Also, grapple beam, amazing range, can be combod with missiles and beam and other moves *dash attack sometimes*
How my snake reacts: I approach with nairs. Punches through missles, and has heavy damage. Utilts stop approaches quickly, and make her vulnerable in the air. When camping the edge, I place c4s down to utilze its massive low hitbox, trust me, I've stage spiked many a shiek and lucario this way. I've also noticed that samus's love BF, because the platforms let them up b through em, as well as protects them from people dropping down on them. That's a weakness too.
Now... we need a FALCON counter to samus. Let the brainstorming begin!
As for me, I believe that approaching with nair and falcon kick could help. Just as long as you don't get predictable and start eating dairs or bairs. Your jab breaks missles, and I have yet to see if falcon can duck under grapple with his crouch. Needless to say, You'll be shielding ALOT here. Once samus is off the stage, focus on spiking her, not uairs *doesn't mean you can't* Her vertical recovery isn't astonishing, I've gimped samus with fox's reflector and she couldn't come back
Force samus to play a close range game, and BEWARE OF Dtilt DURING A JAB COMBO. Trust me, I've lost matches because of this. I think falcon can make this work, his speed and power can make samus nervous of getting early killed by the elbow or utilt.
Comments? Additions?
