Sakurai's Biggest Blunder?: Smash Run Not Online

[RPGatWill]

Hey ya'll.

So Gamexplain, along with a few other sources including the several streamers of the game have found out that there seems to be NO online options for smash run. This means that unless you have a lot of friends nearby (Which I'm sure almost none of us do) you cannot play Smash Run with anyone except CPUs.

So here's my question: Should this be considered the biggest blunder in Smash 3DS's chances of remaining a relevant game? I've always been a supporter of the 3DS over the Wii U version, though I believe both are perfectly valid versions. Sakurai has gone to a lot of trouble to include great features. We have more characters than ever before, the gameplay has shifted away from Brawl's defensive play to a faster style (Though of course it is not melee either), and the online has been vastly iimproved by including the for fun and for glory modes.

However, the 3DS's claim to fame is essentially Smash Run. The Wii U will have the same modes for the most part as the 3DS, and the only 3DS exclusive mode we know of (Maybe because it was pushed so heavily in the Directs and the PotDs) and seemed like the greatest chance for the 3DS to make a separate name for itself.

While several people believe it wouldn't be competitively viable (and they may be right, but we don't know for certain as of yet) it certainly would have made a great online feature for casuals and great side events at tournaments. Several people have mentioned this before.

My question is in two parts.

How badly do you believe this gimps the 3DS version from being a more unique smash experience?

Do you think nintendo and Sakurai will fix their mistake by patching the game so Smash Run can be played online at a later date? (I don't know how possible this is, but it's the only idea I could think of).

 

[joetherocker]

I've always thought of it as more like aspects of Melee's adventure mode combined with SSE than as a multiplayer thing, so I don't think it's a huge loss. I've never been into online as much as other people, though, so I could be wrong. That being said, I don't see how Smash Run not being online stops the 3DS version from being more unique. It's not like the mode itself is just gone.

 

[Roxas215]

Smash Run was the only reason i would even consider the 3ds version. Now it's not online on top of ccpro not working with it? 3DS version is useless to me now.

 

[Rouge]

It is an astonishing blunder since it essentially hurts both Smash Run and the online experience. It was probably the thing I was looking forward to the most so it sucks.

 

[Beatness]

I'm disappointed, but not that disappointed. I mainly use online mode for competitive playing, and Smash Run is more of a "for fun" kind of mode that I'll play with my friends.

 

[Captain Norris]

there is already a thread on Smash Run not supporting Online mode: http://smashboards.com/threads/smash-run-doesnt-support-online-play.367239/unread This thread is not 100% needed. In the link I gave you, there is an explanation that Smash Run could be online, but Nintendo chose not to have it.

To answer your question, it definitely hinders the game.

 

[strawhatninja]

I agree that it is a waste of potential because not many of us have 4 four friends who will get together locally to play it.

 

[RPGatWill]

there is already a thread on Smash Run not supporting Online mode: http://smashboards.com/threads/smash-run-doesnt-support-online-play.367239/unread This thread is not 100% needed. In the link I gave you, there is an explanation that Smash Run could be online, but Nintendo chose not to have it.

To answer your question, it definitely hinders the game.

Ah, apologies. I tried looking to make sure there wasn't a topic already but I must have missed it.

 

[Captain Norris]

Ah, apologies. I tried looking to make sure there wasn't a topic already but I must have missed it.

I originally thought this was purely about Smash Run not having online, but I reread the OP, and it is a very different thing. Sorry for the intrusion.

 

[Knife Myths]

This means that unless you have a lot of friends nearby (Which I'm sure almost none of us do) you cannot play Smash Run with anyone except CPUs.

I don't want to sound like a bully but an accurate summary of this thread is "Game is ruined because I have no friends!" Is that really such a pervading issue in the Smash community?

Go talk to people in real life or something, that's a good start.

 

[Enderwoman]

Its such a waste, especially since they've been pushing Smash run quite alot. For what is supposed to be Smash 3ds's big mode its really disappointing.

 

[ElectricCitrus]

I don't want to sound like a bully but an accurate summary of this thread is "Game is ruined because I have no friends!" Is that really such a pervading issue in the Smash community?

Go talk to people in real life or something, that's a good start.

Not everyone owns 3DSs. I know in some areas its pretty much impossible to get streetpasses because no one owns the damn thing. It's not an issue of talking to people in real life, it's an issue of population density:3DS owned.

But seriously y'all should get some friends.

 

[SmashWolf]

Yeah, we've been whining and moaning about it yesterday in that other thread. Of course I'm always down for whining some more because of how effed up this is, but it'd be best if Nintendo themselves gets to know. A patch COULD be possible to let it happen, and this is easily the biggest downer of the entirety of Smash 4(3DS version anyway.)

 

[Aunt Jemima]

I never even knew that Smash Run was online in the first place, lol. I always assumed it would be local, so I'll just play it with my friends. They're not that great at Smash Bros, but this is Smash Run so it shouldn't matter much.

 

[Enigma14]

I think Smash Run is a waste. 5 minutes to gathering items just to play for a 1 or 2 minute battle? Pass, unless we can change the time limits.

 

[Chrimbo]

Sakurai's biggest blunder is not including Mewtwo YET AGAIN.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

I think the one thing that people must realize is that an online Smash Run likely would've suffered from a lot of lag, all due to the various events that'll be happening during game play.

 

[SmashWolf]

I think Smash Run is a waste. 5 minutes to gathering items just to play for a 1 or 2 minute battle? Pass, unless we can change the time limits.

City Trial could change time limits, so I'm sure this one can too.

Sakurai's biggest blunder is not including Mewtwo YET AGAIN.

I'm sure you can live with 1 less character you enjoy when there's still so many. But I'm not sure if I can miss 1 out of 2 valuable gamemodes. It was gonna be the big thing to seperate this game from Brawl for me. Hell, I'm sure alot of people would buy Smash 3DS almost entirely for Smash Run. My little brother being one of them.

I think the one thing that people must realize is that an online Smash Run likely would've suffered from a lot of lag, all due to the various events that'll be happening during game play.

No player interaction means the game doesn't need to keep up frame by frame like in regular matches, and only needs to keep track of a few numbers. And no, a few numbers do not cause lag even remotely. Smash Run would run much smoother and easier than regular matches. We discussed why in the previous thread. http://smashboards.com/threads/smash-run-doesnt-support-online-play.367239/unread

 

[bloodyshadow]

That is a pretty big shame especially since that was the words going around. But at least you have a few other modes to play around with and can still, at least play with the CPU.

To be honest, I'm hoping there's some reveal for the WIIU version to have some type of mode because everything seems pretty straight forward on the 3DS. Classic, All Star, Smash Run and the minigames. Like it it or not, Brawl had a lot to offer and I don't feel like the 3DS version really give me much to keep grinding with.

(Also, those unlocks were pretty straight forward too, probably because of the lack of different modes.)

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

No player interaction means the game doesn't need to keep up frame by frame like in regular matches, and only needs to keep track of a few numbers. And no, a few numbers do not cause lag even remotely. Smash Run would run much smoother and easier than regular matches. We discussed why in the previous thread. http://smashboards.com/threads/smash-run-doesnt-support-online-play.367239/unread

The problem is, ALL players are present on the exact same stage. City Trial was just like that as well.

 

[Rᴏb]

I really don't think "It would've been laggy guys!!" is a valid excuse in the slightest.

Smash Run was the only mode that actually got me slightly interested in Smash 4, but it being limited to the 3DS version was a huge drawback for me. Now that I know it doesn't even have online makes it completely unappealing to me.

 

[Hellrazor]

I don't care really. The biggest draw to Sm4sh 3DS was the fact that it's portable. I am satisfied with just online VS. Smash Run never interested me much.

 

[SmashWolf]

The problem is, ALL players are present on the exact same stage. City Trial was just like that as well.

It's the same in Local multiplayer. And yes, City Trial was that way as well, yet it all loaded on a SINGLE console in splitscreen to boot. The system can 100% for sure handle it, and all the netcode needs to do is find out what the others have accomplished and the rough estimate of what they're doing. It doesn't even need to render the part of the stage they're on, just like it doesn't need to in local multiplayer.

 

[Bortverde]

Well, like they said above, for most of the time I already thought it would be online-only, even though that's still bad
Actually, tha biggest blunder is the way to unlock characters

 

[SmashWolf]

Well, like they said above, for most of the time I already thought it would be online-only, even though that's still bad
Actually, tha biggest blunder is the way to unlock characters

Umm, what? Why? You just unlock characters once, and that's it. Does it matter? If you ask me they could have the whole roster unlocked from the start.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Its not really a blunder to me. The smash run menu wasn't even under Online

 

[RPGatWill]

I don't want to sound like a bully but an accurate summary of this thread is "Game is ruined because I have no friends!" Is that really such a pervading issue in the Smash community?

Go talk to people in real life or something, that's a good start.

Yeah, you come off as a bit of a bully. I do have friends, but not many. One of my friends is moving to Japan to become a teacher. I no longer can play Smash Run with him. My girlfriend currently lives in another state. If we start living together of course things will change, but until then I cannot play smash run with her. (Which is the only mode she wanted to play online). My other major friend and family live at least 3 hours away from where I currently reside.

I talk to plenty of people, but the community is still not very open to older gamers here. I cannot go around to high schools asking people to play smash with me because I will likely be arrested under suspicion of being a pervert. The closest college is 30 minutes away, and a grown man with a job going over to a college to play a game locally is just weird.

You see the problem isn't that I have no friends, I have no friends in the same area that I live in. I've had to move often throughout my life, and will likely have to move many times more. Building relationships takes time and is not something that can be done in one day.

So yes, Online not being a part of it is a blow and for a very good reason. If you moved to a different part of the States/world from your friends, I'm sure you would still want to be able to play with them. (This doesn't just pertain to Smash Run since you may not care about that, but think about some other game like Mario Party on the 3DS which flopped terribly because it didn't have online. (It also sucked big time but what can you do))

 

[MudkipUniverse]

Sakurai's biggest plunder?: just now realizing the competitive community, makes the game "in between so both audiences can enjoy it"
You know sakurai, wednesday isn't the worst OR best day because it is in the middle

 

[TryHardOliver]

Yeah I really just see Smash run as a replacement for Melees adventure mode and Brawls Subspace Emissary more than a multiplayer thing.

 

[Hitzel]

This is a Super Smash Bros portable game, running at 60 FPS with online play. Smash Run is definitely not the only thing keeping it relevant, especially when talking about college campuses, cities, groups of friends, etc.

That being said, it's a shame that Smash Run is a local-only mode for those who don't have a local community.

 

[Raijinken]

I wouldn't call it his biggest blunder, though I agree, it's a bit of a disappointment.