"Safe" falling with grenades

[SirPsychoMantis]

After playing brawl for the first time for many hours yesterday I found a new use for grenades. Its not ground breaking but it seems like it can be useful.

I was falling back to the stage and pulled out a grenade, Ike hit me with his upsmash which hit me and triggered the grenade and I did not die even though I was at 200%. I did this 3 times in a row so I don't think it was a one time thing.

So it seems like the grenade knockback takes priority over any attack knockback because Ike's upsmash definitely should have killed me at 200%. Of course the downside is you get damaged and also still go flying, but you survive.

If anyone wants to test this who actually owns brawl we can see if it works for all attacks.

 

[snake!]

ill check it out

 

[0RLY]

Sounds useful. Maybe next time Ike will learn from his past mistakes and use bair/fsmash to kill you instead of usmash jk.

 

[Jeff Highwind]

This is pretty cool but it makes me laugh because it defies logic in any sense.

"OMG I'M GONNA DIE FROM A ******* SWORD! GERNADE SAVE ME!"

 

[PsychoMidget]

It's actually a perfectly reasonable strategy when you're at incredibly high damage. It allows you to deal more damage before you die, there's a few problems though, it doesn't always work, and you take more damage than them because you get hit by their attack and the grenade.

 

[tsl]

Great insight guys. Definitely something to add to the repertoire of tricks.

 

[Kamaji]

It works, I use it all the time. I just won the EWU tourney the other day using snake and I used that several times as a recovery.

 

[Azzizaz]

It's actually a perfectly reasonable strategy when you're at incredibly high damage. It allows you to deal more damage before you die, there's a few problems though, it doesn't always work, and you take more damage than them because you get hit by their attack and the grenade.

Though like you said, this can save you from a situation where you'd die automatically to a situation to where you can possible cause more damage.

 

[PsychoMidget]

yes but if you're at high enough damage the explosion of the grenade itself should kill you lol

 

[ToyzSoldier]

You can do the same with with Link's/Y. Link's bombs too.

 

[bman in 2288]

Not in Brawl. The Links can't hit their own bombs anymore.

 

[tsl]

I'm about to submit this technique and some others for inclusion in the advanced techniques compilation thread going on the General Brawl forum because it is seriously lacking in the Snake department. I think even though this technique is very situation, it still warrants labeling as an "advanced technique" because what we are dealing with here is essentially a knockback cancel/override. Who knows, maybe some other use for it will be discovered at a later time.

Anywho, if the technique is to be added to an advanced techniques list, it needs a name. I propose Grenade Knockback Override (or Cancel) or something to that effect.

Discuss.

 

[Deadly'_']

THANK YOU!!! The first person on these fourms that ive seen that isnt selfish. Thanks for propsing a good name and not just a name after yourself. Its a good name too, tells you exactly what it does. The only problem is that its a mouthful to say it needs a nickname. Or we could just say GKO or GKC. I dunno someome else come up with something clever.


To anyone who has tested this does snake always drop the grenade when hes hit or does he have to be at a certain precentage?

 

[PsychoMidget]

He always drops it

 

[Deadly'_']

He always drops it

That so sick! If you play snake correctly he wont even come close to dying till like +150%.

Im not saying hes gonna be top tier or anything but he has a good chance to be low on the high or like first on the mid tier.

Hes gonna be so fun to use when i get the game.

 

[Jeff Highwind]

That so sick! If you play snake correctly he wont even come close to dying till like +150%.

Hate to burst your bubble, but that's fairly common. I've seen some mediums and a fair amount of heavies hit this damage area frequently.

 

[Deadly'_']

Hate to burst your bubble, but that's fairly common. I've seen some mediums and a fair amount of heavies hit this damage area frequently.

Really? Well then i mean w/e the dmg % is that you die from like anything but a jab.

Im guessing like +190% then?

 

[LarkOhiya]

I like pulling out the granade and tossing it up. jumping up and grabing it again. now instead of the standard "preped to toss" stance snake will hold it like any other item...that will just so happen blow up in the next 2.5 seconds >.< try and roll or spot dodge just as it explodes

 

[BAND!T]

so its like links bomb in melee? does the grenade have a set knockback?

 

[Jeff Highwind]

They can KO under the right circumstances. It's got a pretty nasty knockback.

 

[LittleKey]

Why not just call it the grenade cancel?

 

[SirPsychoMantis]

Why not just call it the grenade cancel?

Grenade cancel could imply using the shield to drop the grenade.