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Anniversaries mean nothing besides kinda Peach.

I wouldn't count on it. Wait until the new Metroid is announced at E3.
Well, I did hope for a villain-filled E3 where we get Ganondorf, Ridley and Mewtwo. :p

Where did all of these Samurai come from?!
Who cares? Scissor Blades FTW. :p

 

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You know, we've been on topic a little better than usual today. Hopefully no new annoying "leaks" come our way... unless I totally jinxed it.
 

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Well, I did hope for a villain-filled E3 where we get Ganondorf, Ridley and Mewtwo. :p
You and me both (although throw K. Rool in there).

My thinking is that, if Ridley is going to be playable, they're going to announce him right after the new Metroid as a two-hit-combo.

Metroid gets to wipe off the **** Team Ninja took on it's face, we get Ridley for Smash, we dance, we kiss, we schmooze, we go home happy.

/jameswoods
 

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I do not think F-Zero will receive another representative. The series is iconic but it's only true iconic and memorable character is Captain Falcon. Samurai Goroh is the only other character who is somewhat iconic but due to the genre of the series he doesn't have any screen time

Many people like to cite Star Fox as a series that has many extra characters, but Falco and Wolf developed a great personality with only a few lines of dialogue. Both of them are iconic and memorable

This time around I feel that most franchises are already well represented and we won't be seeing many newcomers in that regard. Possibly Donkey Kong and Metroid have higher chances but F-Zero really doesn't need anyone but the Captain
 

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Probably to prove that competitive Smash isn't always a Fox mirror match on Final Destination (no items on). Falco does this quite well in my opinion, as he is not Fox.
He's Fox with feathers, close enough! :troll:

@ Hotfeet444 Hotfeet444 Sorry about jumping out like that, mainly I'm trying to figure out a team around Greninja, Hydreigon/Haxorus and Lucario. Haxorus and Hydreigon depend on which would better support Greninja and Lucario so I'm curious which one of them would help them the most. Similarly, I want a tank, but I'm not too sure which choice I should go with between Ferrothorn, Chesnaught or Skarmory as they each can spread hazards which is helpful for Greninja but also bring their own different strengths, so I'm wondering which one would be more beneficial to that idea.
 

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Metroid gets to wipe off the **** Team Ninja took on it's face, we get Ridley for Smash, we dance, we kiss, we schmooze, we go home happy.

/jameswoods
If Team Ninja removed every Metroid reference and replaced Samus with Ryu Hayabusa, it would not have sucked as much. Playing that game felt heavenly to me.
Ninja Gaiden: Other M.

He's Fox with feathers, close enough! :troll:

@ Hotfeet444 Hotfeet444 Sorry about jumping out like that, mainly I'm trying to figure out a team around Greninja, Hydreigon/Haxorus and Lucario. Haxorus and Hydreigon depend on which would better support Greninja and Lucario so I'm curious which one of them would help them the most. Similarly, I want a tank, but I'm not too sure which choice I should go with between Ferrothorn, Chesnaught or Skarmory as they each can spread hazards which is helpful for Greninja but also bring their own different strengths, so I'm wondering which one would be more beneficial to that idea.
I use G-Ninja and Haxorus. I recommend Ferrothorn. Synergy, ya know?
 

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You and me both (although throw K. Rool in there).

My thinking is that, if Ridley is going to be playable, they're going to announce him right after the new Metroid as a two-hit-combo.

Metroid gets to wipe off the **** Team Ninja took on it's face, we get Ridley for Smash, we dance, we kiss, we schmooze, we go home happy.

/jameswoods
All aboard the Hype Train! :p
 

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If Team Ninja removed every Metroid reference and replaced Samus with Ryu Hayabusa, it would not have sucked as much. Playing that game felt heavenly to me.
Ninja Gaiden: Other M.
This, so much this, although I haven't played enough of the actual gameplay to love or hate it.
 

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@ Hotfeet444 Hotfeet444 Sorry about jumping out like that, mainly I'm trying to figure out a team around Greninja, Hydreigon/Haxorus and Lucario. Haxorus and Hydreigon depend on which would better support Greninja and Lucario so I'm curious which one of them would help them the most. Similarly, I want a tank, but I'm not too sure which choice I should go with between Ferrothorn, Chesnaught or Skarmory as they each can spread hazards which is helpful for Greninja but also bring their own different strengths, so I'm wondering which one would be more beneficial to that idea.
Hydreigon is way too much a gamble now thanks to its quad weakness to Fairy, which is almost everywhere online lately. For a tank...I suggest going the alternate choice of Gourgeist, who is actually a really good tank who can Will-O-Wisp, Leech seed and more, it's really freaking good. If not, there's always Mawile, which can clean house if used right.
 

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If there's anyone to blame for Metroid: Other M's fiasco is the director Yoshio Sakamoto. Team Ninja only followed his direction.

I should mention Sakamoto was also involved in the creation of the franchise and produced Super Metroid.

Many people blame Team Ninja for what Other M turned into, but actually that was the direction Sakamoto wanted to go with the series.
 

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I do not think F-Zero will receive another representative. The series is iconic but it's only true iconic and memorable character is Captain Falcon.
Doesn't matter. Also Samurai Goroh is C Tier in requests.

Samurai Goroh is the only other character who is somewhat iconic but due to the genre of the series he doesn't have any screen time
Neither did Captain Falcon in anything, but F-Zero GX.

Many people like to cite Star Fox as a series that has many extra characters, but Falco and Wolf developed a great personality with only a few lines of dialogue. Both of them are iconic and memorable
You can argue a lot of characters in Smash aren't very iconic. And I argue Samurai Goroh is moderately iconic.

This time around I feel that most franchises are already well represented and we won't be seeing many newcomers in that regard. Possibly Donkey Kong and Metroid have higher chances but F-Zero really doesn't need anyone but the Captain
Opinion. I feel F-Zero needs more than Captain Falcon and needs his main rival/antagonist. Way more than Donkey Kong needs a third character after Donkey and Diddy.

Not wanting is not the same thing as not needing. Most people only declare requested characters to be from franchise that need another character. Like Kid Icarus.
 

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Hydreigon is way too much a gamble now thanks to its quad weakness to Fairy, which is almost everywhere online lately. For a tank...I suggest going the alternate choice of Gourgeist, who is actually a really good tank who can Will-O-Wisp, Leech seed and more, it's really freaking good. If not, there's always Mawile, which can clean house if used right.
Gonna put in my two cents
-Gourgeist is a tank? Every time I run into it I mow it down with a Danced Fang-Haxorus... even the super sized one!
-Mawile is good.
-Everyone plays G-Ninja now. Seriously, EVERYONE AND HIS BROTHER.
 

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Gonna put in my two cents
-Gourgeist is a tank? Every time I run into it I mow it down with a Danced Fang-Haxorus... even the super sized one!
-Mawile is good.
-Everyone plays G-Ninja now. Seriously, EVERYONE AND HIS BROTHER.
You must no be facing alot of good Gourgeist users, because I would've crippled that Haxorus on the first turn with Will O Wisp and leech seed it the next. Not to mention throw in a leftovers. And the thing's got a 122 defense stat, which is really good. Also, if you want a special Tank, hidden ability Goodra is king. :p
 

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You must no be facing alot of good Gourgeist users, because I would've crippled that Haxorus on the first turn with Will O Wisp and leech seed it the next. Not to mention throw in a leftovers. And the thing's got a 122 defense stat, which is really good. Also, if you want a special Tank, hidden ability Goodra is king. :p
I can understand Gourgeist being a good tank. Most try and use Leech Seed First turn (Bad Idea.) and then I get one dance down and murder them. Then again, there's a reason I run Lum berry on occaision for my Haxorus, Caesar. Goodra is a good special defender that is Dragon, good if you want something that can hit as well as be bulky.
 

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Hydreigon is way too much a gamble now thanks to its quad weakness to Fairy, which is almost everywhere online lately. For a tank...I suggest going the alternate choice of Gourgeist, who is actually a really good tank who can Will-O-Wisp, Leech seed and more, it's really freaking good. If not, there's always Mawile, which can clean house if used right.
-Yeah, which is why I was considering Ferrothorn or Skarmory since they resist them. In that case, should I go with Haxorus or try one of the other dragons?
-Gourgeist can be a tank? I always hear about Trevenant being used as one before but never him. I'll look into him and Mawile because I'm also looking into other Megas.

Everyone plays G-Ninja now. Seriously, EVERYONE AND HIS BROTHER.
Yep, the frog ninja shall conquer you all!
 

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I don't care what people think about Goroh's chances, im always gonna root for him! he would fit very nicely with the rest of the group
 

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Doesn't matter. Also Samurai Goroh is C Tier in requests.


Neither did Captain Falcon in anything, but F-Zero GX.


You can argue a lot of characters in Smash aren't very iconic. And I argue Samurai Goroh is moderately iconic.


Opinion. I feel F-Zero needs more than Captain Falcon and needs his main rival/antagonist. Way more than Donkey Kong needs a third character after Donkey and Diddy.

Not wanting is not the same thing as not needing. Most people only declare requested characters to be from franchise that need another character. Like Kid Icarus.
If you would be so kind, it's really difficult to reply to sentences rather than form a cohesive response, so please don't break up a post that way.

In regards to screen time, the main protagonist is kind of immune don't you think? You can't really equate Falcons screen time to Gorohs since Falcon is the face of F-Zero. He has infinite screen time.

You would be hard pressed to find characters that aren't iconic in Brawl as the entire roster is pretty spot on with the All-Stars. Maybe you could argue Ike and Lucario but both of those characters are from way more popular series than F-Zero. They both also feature prominent roles in their respective games, something Goroh never has

The difference between Donkey Kong and F-Zero is relevance, popularity, longevity and more importantly the fact that those characters are either always playable as themselves
 
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