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remember that "create the best team possible" thing? I've been working on it for months, and I think I finally got it. I will post actual stats, not EV spreads. Assume all sets are PP maxed.

Latios @ Soul Dew
Dragon Pulse
Grass Knot
Draco Meteor
Momento

HP: 302
Att: 194
Def: 196
Spe Att: 394, 591 w/ soul dew
Spe Def: 256, 384 w/ soul dew
Spd: 319

Kyogre @ Leftovers
Surf
Thunder
Calm Mind
Rest

HP: 404
Att: 212
Def: 217
Spe Att: 438
Spe Def: 316
Spd: 216

Mewtwo @ Focus Sash
Taunt
Calm Mind
Psychic
Ice Beam

HP: 354
Att: 230
Def: 216
Spe Att: 407
Spe Def: 216
Spd: 394

Rayquaza @ Focus Sash
Dragon Dance
Dragon Claw
Earthquake
Overheat

HP: 352
Att: 438
Def: 216
Spe Att: 302
Spe Def: 216
Spd: 289

Palkia @ Lustrous Orb
Spacial Rend
Surf
Thunder
Earth Power

HP: 322
Att: 248
Def: 236
Spe Att: 438
Spe Def: 276
Spd: 299

Manaphy @ Focus Sash
Surf
Grass Knot
Heart Swap
Rest

HP: 404
Att: 212
Def: 236
Spe Att: 237
Spe Def: 236
Spd: 328
 

Wii4Mii 99

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Watch out for Item Clause.

Nothing on this team looks intimidating except Latios. Of course, it doesn't have to look intimidating to pwn.

Until wii meet again,
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ss118

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Thanks to the mention W4M made with Tyranitar being viable in the n00ber tier, I've jumped into ubers for the time being as well. so lets see what you have:

remember that "create the best team possible" thing? I've been working on it for months, and I think I finally got it. I will post actual stats, not EV spreadslame. Assume all sets are PP maxed.

Latios @ Soul Dew
Dragon Pulse
Grass Knot
Draco Meteor
Momento

HP: 302
Att: 194
Def: 196
Spe Att: 394, 591 w/ soul dew
Spe Def: 256, 384 w/ soul dew
Spd: 319
I honestly used this moveset, and it works really well. I believe this is a Modest nature, which I don't reccomend because of the large amount of things that outspeed it. Darkrai ***** your ****, as an example, as it puts you to sleep and Dark Pulses you to death. Mewtwo also ruins your day, alsong with the occasional focus sashed Ninjask with Swords dance and X-Scissor.

Kyogre @ Leftovers
Surf
Thunder
Calm Mind
Rest

HP: 404
Att: 212
Def: 217
Spe Att: 438
Spe Def: 316
Spd: 216
Honestly, with most of your teams, you have too many sweepers: heres a good example. I would make this a Choice Scarfer, to take advantage of Water Sport and revenge killing. It'll help more than when your opponent started with a Focus sashed deoxys-S with SR, and then gets his own sweeper set up.

Mewtwo @ Focus Sash
Taunt
Calm Mind
Psychic
Ice Beam

HP: 354
Att: 230
Def: 216
Spe Att: 407
Spe Def: 216
Spd: 394
Psychic is horrible for type coverage in the uber tier. Use Shadow Ball/ Aura Sphere instead oevr Psychic and Ice Beam. And please use Leftovers over Focus Sash: this makes the recoverless mewtwo MUCH better, especially with the extended taunt from ADV and the attack drops you'll have thanks to memento on Latios

Rayquaza @ Focus Sash
Dragon Dance
Dragon Claw
Earthquake
Overheat

HP: 352
Att: 438
Def: 216
Spe Att: 302
Spe Def: 216
Spd: 289
This is fine, possibly Extremespeed over Overheat for Deoxys-A, and Life Orb over Focus Sash

Palkia @ Lustrous Orb
Spacial Rend
Surf
Thunder
Earth Power

HP: 322
Att: 248
Def: 236
Spe Att: 438
Spe Def: 276
Spd: 299
Possibly Choice Specs over Lustrous Orb, and maybe Draco Meteor>Spacial Rend

Manaphy @ Focus Sash
Surf
Grass Knot
Heart Swap
Rest

HP: 404
Att: 212
Def: 236
Spe Att: 237
Spe Def: 236
Spd: 328
Even in the uber tier, Manaphy is useless, in my opinion. You already have enough special attackers(4?!?!), so you might wanna rid of this for a Dialga, perferrably a rest-Talking one with Dragon Claw and Bulk Up
I REALLY hope this helped, and EV spreads are easier on the eyes than Stat numbers
 
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I made this team to fight both OU and ubers. I agree with you about darkrai beating me, but he's not out yet in the US, and the japanese ones aren't all that good.

latios, I initially had shadowball, but draco meteor does him in much more reliably.

yeah, focus sash does hurt this team pretty bad. I should work on that.

extremespeed over overheat is a good call, I'll try it. However, focus sash on his ensures that he gets a DD off even if I predict badly. I tried life orb rayquaza for a while with outrage, and while the sheer power upgrade is nice, the lack of versatility definitely is not.

Manaphy, I mainly use to steal crap like 4 calm minds if I really screw up or at least disarm rayquaza of all his DDes. I figured it'd be the same as psych up blissey but better since it removes the threat as well. As you probably know, anything uber that gets a stat boost is basically a double uber, so getting rid of them is really nice.

If I use too many attackers, what else would you suggest I use? I agree actually, but special attackers are really the way to go in DP. There's so very few effective special walls. The best one, blissey, can't really do anything back effectively.

Thank you for your input, please add more.
 

Wii4Mii 99

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Sure, getting STAB on Mewtwo's Psychic seems so cool, but how many Uber Pokemon are actually weak to it? Correct mii if I'm wrong, but last I checked, there were none. I'd give it Aura Sphere to help deal with Blissey and Darkrai. Shadow Ball could also work.

Manaphy is not useless in Ubers.

1) Kyogre boosts its Surf, along with Manaphy's Tail Glow.

2) Kyogre's rain, thanks to Manaphy's ability, acts as a Full Restore.

3) 100 defenses isn't that bad.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99
 

ss118

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At the moment, I cant do bold cause I'm typing this through my cell, but ill put my suggestions in *astericks*.

I made this team to fight both OU and ubers. I agree with you about darkrai beating me, but he's not out yet in the US, and the japanese ones aren't all that good.*So this team is made to beat any wi-fi team? If you say so, but there are people out there who actually use AR's, like me :p*

latios, I initially had shadowball, but draco meteor does him in much more reliably.*Agreed, and it helps with Memento, since you have less of a reson to stay in afterwards*

yeah, focus sash does hurt this team pretty bad. I should work on that.*Once again agreed, but that doesn't mean you can't use it*

extremespeed over overheat is a good call, I'll try it. However, focus sash on his ensures that he gets a DD off even if I predict badly. I tried life orb rayquaza for a while with outrage, and while the sheer power upgrade is nice, the lack of versatility definitely is not.*like this. And I suggest you "possibly" change it to Extremespeed: with the focus sash, your guaranteed the DD, so the speed priority move isn't going to help except for revenge killing, which as I mentioned earlier should be left to Kyogre. I say keep overheat, otherwise Forretress, like the one I have on my Uber team, comes in and sets up a SR, and possibly explodes. I'm surprised you didn't make it choice specs, though ;P*

Manaphy, I mainly use to steal crap like 4 calm minds if I really screw up or at least disarm rayquaza of all his DDes. I figured it'd be the same as psych up blissey but better since it removes the threat as well. As you probably know, anything uber that gets a stat boost is basically a double uber, so getting rid of them is really nice.*I usually like to say "assume the worse", but you shouldn't have to worry about your opponent getting THAT many CM's or DD's off if you work your team right. In fact, most ubers only need one boost to take advantage of the match, anyway. That's why I suggest Psych Up Blissey over this, but in ubers you don't need that much defense. Give her a calm nature with 252 EVs in special defense, and give her a minimum of 100 Defense. Afterwards, give her 150 speed and the rest in special attack. But that's what I do. It helps wall every kind of special threat you'll ever see. In the form of attacks, give it Thunder/ Ice Beam along with softboiled and psych up*

If I use too many attackers, what else would you suggest I use? I agree actually, but special attackers are really the way to go in DP. There's so very few effective special walls. The best one, blissey, can't really do anything back effectively.*read above thing for info on Blissey. Forretress makes for a good physical wall, and is not a terrible idea to give it a focus sash, either: it guarantees to get off the needed explosion or SR. I find lugia to be most annoying on any of my teams, as my mentality keeps with the "4 physical, 2 Special" goal of my teams, even in ubers.

Thank you for your input, please add more.*No problem =)*
Wii4Mii, I never said it WAS useless, I said ALMOST useless. But maybe I see hat because I can switch my Trannytar into its rest quite easily and ruin its "strategy", which is the same every time
 
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