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RMT - Team Secunda

IC3R

Smash Lord
Joined
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Messages
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Location
Fayetteville, GA
I can already see the looks on your faces:

(O.o) - OMG! Another RMT?!

Well...yeah...I actually like to build teams; it forces me to put my gimungous (sp check plz) brain to work, coming up with strategies no one's thought about before...:nerd:
While my primary team is kicking azz and taking names, I fear that there will be those trainers who are out to get me, and make a team that pretty much counters mine...*cough *shadydentist*cough*...Ahem, sorry 'bout that...

As you may or may not have noticed, I tend to stray a bit away from the standard movesets of a lot of the OU/BL Pokemon, and still be rather effective in my opinion...

So I devised this team for the folks that can't take a loss lightly (not that my Water team can't tear them to shreds, which it does :p)...

==========
Bronzong - DoomRinger @ Leftovers
Bold / Levitate
EVs - 106 HP, 252 Def, 152 SpDf
~Shadow Ball
~HP Fighting
~Calm Mind
~Hypnosis

Put a foe to sleep, Calm Mind like crazy, and Sweep with the unstoppable combo of Ghost + Fighting! Blissey and Snorlax cause problems, however...I give Leftovers instead of the usual Occa Berry, because no one seems to use Fire attacks anymore, save for SpecsMence...Bronzong leads sometimes give me trouble, so I figured I could be just as annoying (in my own special way :grin:).

--------------------
Ninjask - Shinobi @ Focus Sash/Leftovers
Jolly / Speed Boost
EVs - 6 HP, 252 Att, 252 Spd
~X-Scissor
~Swords Dance
~Baton Pass
~Protect/Substitute

I don't know if this is standard or not, but it works to my cause nonetheless. I use it mainly to BP some Speed and Attack to Dusknoir. Protect and Substitute will depend on my mood...

--------------------
Dusknoir - PhasePhist @ Expert Belt/Shell Bell/Leftovers
Careful / Pressure
EVs - 106 Att, 202 Def, 202 SpDf
~Shadow Sneak/Punch
~Brick Break
~Thunder Punch
~Ice Punch

This is my SuperSweeper, as long as it gets Ninjask's BP boosts.; decent Sweeper nonetheless. If you haven't noticed, I devised a repetiore for Dusknoir that allows it to take on any Pokemon type and hit for at least neutral damage...

IPunch + TPunch = Physical BoltBeam, resisted by only Magnezone, Lanturn, etc.
SSneak + BBreak = NOTHING RESISTS!!! BWAHAHAHAHA!!!

The item is what bothers me most: Expert Belt for a little extra damage on super-effective hits; Shell Bell should restore a decent amount of Dusknoir's crappy HP, because it'll be dealing massive amounts of damage to non-PhysiWalls (Skarmory >.<#), and will more than likely have much better HP than him; and Leftovers for steady recovery, though that doesn't count for much...

--------------------
Azelf - Psychutie @ Choice Scarf/Specs/Wisdom Glasses/Life Orb/Expert Belt
Timid / Levitate
EVs - 6 HP, 252 SpAt, 252 Spd
~Psychic/Extrasensory
~Flamethrower
~Thunderbolt
~HP Fighting/Focus Blast

Azelf is supposed to be a great Special Sweeper, and I wanted to try it out. Psychic of course is for power, while Extrasensory has that small chance of Flinch in case the opponent survives; Flamethrower is for annoying little Steel types and any Bug that dares come up against it; Thunderbolt is for Empoleon and Starmie, which can take the first two attacks pretty well; and HP Fighting is for Blissey and Snorlax, possibly the only two Pokemon able to effectively take it down nonetheless. I wanted to go with a ScarfSweeping Azelf because of those other Scarfers such as Garchomp, Heracross, and sometimes Porygon-Z that can easily outspeed and trash Azelf if it didn't have the Scarf; but like any ChoiceSweeper, it requires a bit of scouting for it to be very effective. I have the Specs if I feel that Azelf could use a bit more punch; Expert Belt, Wisdom Glasses, and Life Orb for a freer attack strategy.

--------------------
Salamence - Dreamer @ Expert Belt/Life Orb
Timid / Intimidate
EVs - Att 128, SpAt 128, Spd 252
~Dragon Pulse
~Flamethrower
~Earthquake
~Shadow Claw

I'm using Salamence as a MixSweeper; blasphemy, I know, but I think it can work...I use Dragon Pulse for STAB; Flamethrower for Steels, the only Pokemon that can resist DPulse; Earthquake for Electrics (who will almost always have an Ice attack) and Empoleon (the SpecsMence counter, big surprise for you :evil:); and Shadow Claw for toasty Ghosties and Psychics...Expert Belt and Life Orb give nice boosts to attacks...I've come to like the Belt...

--------------------
Swampert - Muddin @ Leftovers/Rindo Berry
Careful / Torrent
EVs - 100 HP, 158 Def, 252 SpDf
~Earthquake
~Avalanche
~Hammer Arm
~Curse

I didn't have a Water type (which I absolutely must), nor a Pokemon that can absorb Thunderbolts and Waves, so I chose my favorite Water/Ground Pokemon: Swampert. Another CursePert...but wait! It has a Careful Nature and full SpDf EVs?! Well, yeah. I like to bit just a little surprising. I don't know exact calculations, but I feel that when someone uses a SpAttack (but God forbid it's a Grass move) and it does a third or fourth of the damage they expect, they be like: "OMG! Shadow Ball did CRAP!" and get a nice Curse-boosted (if applicable) EQ/Avalanche/HArm to the face :grin: .

==========
So, yeah...Another RMT to take up space in the Rating Room (not really, I have a need to be a winner). As usual, any and all help is greatly appreciated.

Credit goes to Aryman for making me realize my team has major flaws...

Shadydentist isn't out to get me, but I know his team totally counters my primary...


I apologize if you've gone blind mulitple times reading my posts, but blue is my favorite color...

Thanks, folks! Now let's make some MAGIC! :estatic::estatic::estatic::estatic::estatic:
 

ss118

Smash Master
Joined
Jan 30, 2006
Messages
3,127
Location
Savannah, Georgia
I can already see the looks on your faces:

(O.o) - OMG! Another RMT?!

Well...yeah...I actually like to build teams; it forces me to put my gimungous (sp check plz) brain to work, coming up with strategies no one's thought about before...:nerd:
While my primary team is kicking azz and taking names, I fear that there will be those trainers who are out to get me, and make a team that pretty much counters mine...*cough *shadydentist*cough*...Ahem, sorry 'bout that...

As you may or may not have noticed, I tend to stray a bit away from the standard movesets of a lot of the OU/BL Pokemon, and still be rather effective in my opinion...

So I devised this team for the folks that can't take a loss lightly (not that my Water team can't tear them to shreds, which it does :p)...

==========
Bronzong - DoomRinger @ Leftovers
Bold / Levitate
EVs - 106 HP, 252 Def, 152 SpDf
~Shadow Ball
~HP Fighting
~Calm Mind
~Hypnosis

Put a foe to sleep, Calm Mind like crazy, and Sweep with the unstoppable combo of Ghost + Fighting! Blissey and Snorlax cause problems, however...I give Leftovers instead of the usual Occa Berry, because no one seems to use Fire attacks anymore, save for SpecsMence...Bronzong leads sometimes give me trouble, so I figured I could be just as annoying (in my own special way :grin:).
To get the most out of Bronzong, you ALWAYS max Hp. Otherwise, good.

--------------------
Ninjask - Shinobi @ Focus Sash/Leftovers
Jolly / Speed Boost
EVs - 6 HP, 252 Att, 252 Spd
~X-Scissor
~Swords Dance
~Baton Pass
~Protect/Substitute

I don't know if this is standard or not, but it works to my cause nonetheless. I use it mainly to BP some Speed and Attack to Dusknoir. Protect and Substitute will depend on my mood...
Fine, watch out for [p]hazers.

--------------------
Dusknoir - PhasePhist @ Expert Belt/Shell Bell/Leftovers
Careful / Pressure
EVs - 106 Att, 202 Def, 202 SpDf
~Shadow Sneak/Punch
~Brick Break
~Thunder Punch
~Ice Punch

This is my SuperSweeper, as long as it gets Ninjask's BP boosts.; decent Sweeper nonetheless. If you haven't noticed, I devised a repetiore for Dusknoir that allows it to take on any Pokemon type and hit for at least neutral damage...

IPunch + TPunch = Physical BoltBeam, resisted by only Magnezone, Lanturn, etc.
SSneak + BBreak = NOTHING RESISTS!!! BWAHAHAHAHA!!!

The item is what bothers me most: Expert Belt for a little extra damage on super-effective hits; Shell Bell should restore a decent amount of Dusknoir's crappy HP, because it'll be dealing massive amounts of damage to non-PhysiWalls (Skarmory >.<#), and will more than likely have much better HP than him; and Leftovers for steady recovery, though that doesn't count for much...
Why not Life Orb? And why use shadow sneak if ur getting Speed boosts from ninjask

--------------------
Azelf - Psychutie @ Choice Scarf/Specs/Wisdom Glasses/Life Orb/Expert Belt
Timid / Levitate
EVs - 6 HP, 252 SpAt, 252 Spd
~Psychic/Extrasensory
~Flamethrower
~Thunderbolt
~HP Fighting/Focus Blast

Azelf is supposed to be a great Special Sweeper, and I wanted to try it out. Psychic of course is for power, while Extrasensory has that small chance of Flinch in case the opponent survives; Flamethrower is for annoying little Steel types and any Bug that dares come up against it; Thunderbolt is for Empoleon and Starmie, which can take the first two attacks pretty well; and HP Fighting is for Blissey and Snorlax, possibly the only two Pokemon able to effectively take it down nonetheless. I wanted to go with a ScarfSweeping Azelf because of those other Scarfers such as Garchomp, Heracross, and sometimes Porygon-Z that can easily outspeed and trash Azelf if it didn't have the Scarf; but like any ChoiceSweeper, it requires a bit of scouting for it to be very effective. I have the Specs if I feel that Azelf could use a bit more punch; Expert Belt, Wisdom Glasses, and Life Orb for a freer attack strategy.
Choice Scarf, Psychic and HP Ice, imo

--------------------
Salamence - Dreamer @ Expert Belt/Life Orb
Timid / Intimidate
EVs - Att 128, SpAt 128, Spd 252
~Dragon Pulse
~Flamethrower
~Earthquake
~Shadow Claw

I'm using Salamence as a MixSweeper; blasphemy, I know, but I think it can work...I use Dragon Pulse for STAB; Flamethrower for Steels, the only Pokemon that can resist DPulse; Earthquake for Electrics (who will almost always have an Ice attack) and Empoleon (the SpecsMence counter, big surprise for you :evil:); and Shadow Claw for toasty Ghosties and Psychics...Expert Belt and Life Orb give nice boosts to attacks...I've come to like the Belt...
Expert Belt, imo

--------------------
Swampert - Muddin @ Leftovers/Rindo Berry
Careful / Torrent
EVs - 100 HP, 158 Def, 252 SpDf
~Earthquake
~Avalanche
~Hammer Arm
~Curse

I didn't have a Water type (which I absolutely must), nor a Pokemon that can absorb Thunderbolts and Waves, so I chose my favorite Water/Ground Pokemon: Swampert. Another CursePert...but wait! It has a Careful Nature and full SpDf EVs?! Well, yeah. I like to bit just a little surprising. I don't know exact calculations, but I feel that when someone uses a SpAttack (but God forbid it's a Grass move) and it does a third or fourth of the damage they expect, they be like: "OMG! Shadow Ball did CRAP!" and get a nice Curse-boosted (if applicable) EQ/Avalanche/HArm to the face :grin: .
Fine

==========
So, yeah...Another RMT to take up space in the Rating Room (not really, I have a need to be a winner). As usual, any and all help is greatly appreciated.

Credit goes to Aryman for making me realize my team has major flaws...

Shadydentist isn't out to get me, but I know his team totally counters my primary...


I apologize if you've gone blind mulitple times reading my posts, but blue is my favorite color...

Thanks, folks! Now let's make some MAGIC! :estatic::estatic::estatic::estatic::estatic:
meh, honestly, I've seen you do better :/
 

MysticKenji

Smash Master
Joined
Jul 15, 2007
Messages
4,341
Location
Orlando, FL / Pittsburgh, PA

Bronzong - DoomRinger @ Leftovers
Bold / Levitate
EVs - 106 HP, 252 Def, 152 SpDf
~Shadow Ball
~HP Fighting
~Calm Mind
~Hypnosis

Put a foe to sleep, Calm Mind like crazy, and Sweep with the unstoppable combo of Ghost + Fighting! Blissey and Snorlax cause problems, however...I give Leftovers instead of the usual Occa Berry, because no one seems to use Fire attacks anymore, save for SpecsMence...Bronzong leads sometimes give me trouble, so I figured I could be just as annoying (in my own special way :grin:).
Max out his HP
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Ninjask - Shinobi @ Focus Sash/Leftovers
Jolly / Speed Boost
EVs - 6 HP, 252 Att, 252 Spd
~X-Scissor
~Swords Dance
~Baton Pass
~Protect/Substitute

I don't know if this is standard or not, but it works to my cause nonetheless. I use it mainly to BP some Speed and Attack to Dusknoir. Protect and Substitute will depend on my mood...
Fine

--------------------
Dusknoir - PhasePhist @ Expert Belt/Shell Bell/Leftovers
Careful / Pressure
EVs - 106 Att, 202 Def, 202 SpDf
~Shadow Sneak/Punch
~Brick Break
~Thunder Punch
~Ice Punch

This is my SuperSweeper, as long as it gets Ninjask's BP boosts.; decent Sweeper nonetheless. If you haven't noticed, I devised a repetiore for Dusknoir that allows it to take on any Pokemon type and hit for at least neutral damage...

IPunch + TPunch = Physical BoltBeam, resisted by only Magnezone, Lanturn, etc.
SSneak + BBreak = NOTHING RESISTS!!! BWAHAHAHAHA!!!

The item is what bothers me most: Expert Belt for a little extra damage on super-effective hits; Shell Bell should restore a decent amount of Dusknoir's crappy HP, because it'll be dealing massive amounts of damage to non-PhysiWalls (Skarmory >.<#), and will more than likely have much better HP than him; and Leftovers for steady recovery, though that doesn't count for much...
I say go with the Shell Bell.
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Azelf - Psychutie @ Choice Scarf/Specs/Wisdom Glasses/Life Orb/Expert Belt
Timid / Levitate
EVs - 6 HP, 252 SpAt, 252 Spd
~Psychic/Extrasensory
~Flamethrower
~Thunderbolt
~HP Fighting/Focus Blast

Azelf is supposed to be a great Special Sweeper, and I wanted to try it out. Psychic of course is for power, while Extrasensory has that small chance of Flinch in case the opponent survives; Flamethrower is for annoying little Steel types and any Bug that dares come up against it; Thunderbolt is for Empoleon and Starmie, which can take the first two attacks pretty well; and HP Fighting is for Blissey and Snorlax, possibly the only two Pokemon able to effectively take it down nonetheless. I wanted to go with a ScarfSweeping Azelf because of those other Scarfers such as Garchomp, Heracross, and sometimes Porygon-Z that can easily outspeed and trash Azelf if it didn't have the Scarf; but like any ChoiceSweeper, it requires a bit of scouting for it to be very effective. I have the Specs if I feel that Azelf could use a bit more punch; Expert Belt, Wisdom Glasses, and Life Orb for a freer attack strategy.
Choice Scarf, Psychic and HP Fighting IMO

--------------------
Salamence - Dreamer @ Expert Belt/Life Orb
Timid / Intimidate
EVs - Att 128, SpAt 128, Spd 252
~Dragon Pulse
~Flamethrower
~Earthquake
~Shadow Claw

I'm using Salamence as a MixSweeper; blasphemy, I know, but I think it can work...I use Dragon Pulse for STAB; Flamethrower for Steels, the only Pokemon that can resist DPulse; Earthquake for Electrics (who will almost always have an Ice attack) and Empoleon (the SpecsMence counter, big surprise for you :evil:); and Shadow Claw for toasty Ghosties and Psychics...Expert Belt and Life Orb give nice boosts to attacks...I've come to like the Belt...
Fine
--------------------
Swampert - Muddin @ Leftovers/Rindo Berry
Careful / Torrent
EVs - 100 HP, 158 Def, 252 SpDf
~Earthquake
~Avalanche
~Hammer Arm
~Curse

I didn't have a Water type (which I absolutely must), nor a Pokemon that can absorb Thunderbolts and Waves, so I chose my favorite Water/Ground Pokemon: Swampert. Another CursePert...but wait! It has a Careful Nature and full SpDf EVs?! Well, yeah. I like to bit just a little surprising. I don't know exact calculations, but I feel that when someone uses a SpAttack (but God forbid it's a Grass move) and it does a third or fourth of the damage they expect, they be like: "OMG! Shadow Ball did CRAP!" and get a nice Curse-boosted (if applicable) EQ/Avalanche/HArm to the face :grin: .
Fine
Avoid playing with people who use item clauses.
 

IC3R

Smash Lord
Joined
Aug 27, 2007
Messages
1,623
Location
Fayetteville, GA
meh, honestly, I've seen you do better :/
Well, thanks for being honest, seriously.
I saw your comment on Dusknoir about Shadow Sneak, and I had considered it beforehand. What if Ninjask falls to something stupidly random (Stealth Rock :urg:)? Dusknoir would need a way to still hit hard and fast, so Shadow Sneak is my first option...And I didn't consider Life Orb...hmm...

I see where you're going with Azelf:
Psychic + Elemental Attacks = :skull:

And yeah, it's not my best team by any means; I really think my Water Team could tear it to shreds...:psycho:


Avoid playing with people who use item clauses.
Oddly enough, I used to play with the Item Clause...then no one would fight me. Overabuse of Leftovers...:lol:
 

Wii4Mii 99

Smash Lord
Joined
Apr 27, 2007
Messages
1,859
I can already see the looks on your faces:

(O.o) - OMG! Another RMT?!

Well...yeah...I actually like to build teams; it forces me to put my gimungous (sp check plz) brain to work, coming up with strategies no one's thought about before...:nerd:
While my primary team is kicking azz and taking names, I fear that there will be those trainers who are out to get me, and make a team that pretty much counters mine...*cough *shadydentist*cough*...Ahem, sorry 'bout that...

As you may or may not have noticed, I tend to stray a bit away from the standard movesets of a lot of the OU/BL Pokemon, and still be rather effective in my opinion...

So I devised this team for the folks that can't take a loss lightly (not that my Water team can't tear them to shreds, which it does :p)...

==========
Bronzong - DoomRinger @ Leftovers
Bold / Levitate
EVs - 106 HP, 252 Def, 152 SpDf
~Shadow Ball
~HP Fighting
~Calm Mind
~Hypnosis

Put a foe to sleep, Calm Mind like crazy, and Sweep with the unstoppable combo of Ghost + Fighting! Blissey and Snorlax cause problems, however...I give Leftovers instead of the usual Occa Berry, because no one seems to use Fire attacks anymore, save for SpecsMence...Bronzong leads sometimes give me trouble, so I figured I could be just as annoying (in my own special way :grin:).

Interesting Bronzong... max it's HP first

--------------------
Ninjask - Shinobi @ Focus Sash/Leftovers
Jolly / Speed Boost
EVs - 6 HP, 252 Att, 252 Spd
~X-Scissor
~Swords Dance
~Baton Pass
~Protect/Substitute

I don't know if this is standard or not, but it works to my cause nonetheless. I use it mainly to BP some Speed and Attack to Dusknoir. Protect and Substitute will depend on my mood...

If you're pasing something to anything, I'd pass it to actual sweepers. Dusknoir is a wallish thing...

--------------------
Dusknoir - PhasePhist @ Expert Belt/Shell Bell/Leftovers
Careful / Pressure
EVs - 106 Att, 202 Def, 202 SpDf
~Shadow Sneak/Punch
~Brick Break
~Thunder Punch
~Ice Punch

This is my SuperSweeper, as long as it gets Ninjask's BP boosts.; decent Sweeper nonetheless. If you haven't noticed, I devised a repetiore for Dusknoir that allows it to take on any Pokemon type and hit for at least neutral damage...

IPunch + TPunch = Physical BoltBeam, resisted by only Magnezone, Lanturn, etc.
SSneak + BBreak = NOTHING RESISTS!!! BWAHAHAHAHA!!!

The item is what bothers me most: Expert Belt for a little extra damage on super-effective hits; Shell Bell should restore a decent amount of Dusknoir's crappy HP, because it'll be dealing massive amounts of damage to non-PhysiWalls (Skarmory >.<#), and will more than likely have much better HP than him; and Leftovers for steady recovery, though that doesn't count for much...

...But I can see where you're going with this.

1) BoltBeam and Ghosting (I know...)
2) It already has good Defenses, so it won't die quickly if it happens to get hit.

Hmm... I never thought about this... Good thinking. :bigthumbu


--------------------
Azelf - Psychutie @ Choice Scarf/Specs/Wisdom Glasses/Life Orb/Expert Belt
Timid / Levitate
EVs - 6 HP, 252 SpAt, 252 Spd
~Psychic/Extrasensory
~Flamethrower
~Thunderbolt
~HP Fighting/Focus Blast

Azelf is supposed to be a great Special Sweeper, and I wanted to try it out. Psychic of course is for power, while Extrasensory has that small chance of Flinch in case the opponent survives; Flamethrower is for annoying little Steel types and any Bug that dares come up against it; Thunderbolt is for Empoleon and Starmie, which can take the first two attacks pretty well; and HP Fighting is for Blissey and Snorlax, possibly the only two Pokemon able to effectively take it down nonetheless. I wanted to go with a ScarfSweeping Azelf because of those other Scarfers such as Garchomp, Heracross, and sometimes Porygon-Z that can easily outspeed and trash Azelf if it didn't have the Scarf; but like any ChoiceSweeper, it requires a bit of scouting for it to be very effective. I have the Specs if I feel that Azelf could use a bit more punch; Expert Belt, Wisdom Glasses, and Life Orb for a freer attack strategy.

Use Psychic. I don't know between HP Fighting and FB.

--------------------
Salamence - Dreamer @ Expert Belt/Life Orb
Timid / Intimidate
EVs - Att 128, SpAt 128, Spd 252
~Dragon Pulse
~Flamethrower
~Earthquake
~Shadow Claw

I'm using Salamence as a MixSweeper; blasphemy, I know, but I think it can work...I use Dragon Pulse for STAB; Flamethrower for Steels, the only Pokemon that can resist DPulse; Earthquake for Electrics (who will almost always have an Ice attack) and Empoleon (the SpecsMence counter, big surprise for you :evil:); and Shadow Claw for toasty Ghosties and Psychics...Expert Belt and Life Orb give nice boosts to attacks...I've come to like the Belt...

Looks good.

--------------------
Swampert - Muddin @ Leftovers/Rindo Berry
Careful / Torrent
EVs - 100 HP, 158 Def, 252 SpDf
~Earthquake
~Avalanche
~Hammer Arm
~Curse

I didn't have a Water type (which I absolutely must), nor a Pokemon that can absorb Thunderbolts and Waves, so I chose my favorite Water/Ground Pokemon: Swampert. Another CursePert...but wait! It has a Careful Nature and full SpDf EVs?! Well, yeah. I like to bit just a little surprising. I don't know exact calculations, but I feel that when someone uses a SpAttack (but God forbid it's a Grass move) and it does a third or fourth of the damage they expect, they be like: "OMG! Shadow Ball did CRAP!" and get a nice Curse-boosted (if applicable) EQ/Avalanche/HArm to the face :grin: .

Good.

==========
So, yeah...Another RMT to take up space in the Rating Room (not really, I have a need to be a winner). As usual, any and all help is greatly appreciated.

Credit goes to Aryman for making me realize my team has major flaws...

Shadydentist isn't out to get me, but I know his team totally counters my primary...


I apologize if you've gone blind mulitple times reading my posts, but blue is my favorite color...

Thanks, folks! Now let's make some MAGIC! :estatic::estatic::estatic::estatic::estatic:
@ IC3R

I post in red. Fire is red. Fire beats ice.

MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! :flame::evil:

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99
 

Aryman

Smash Master
Joined
Feb 24, 2007
Messages
3,142
Location
Arlington, VA
3DS FC
1934-0665-4529
I can already see the looks on your faces:

(O.o) - OMG! Another RMT?!

Well...yeah...I actually like to build teams; it forces me to put my gimungous (sp check plz) brain to work, coming up with strategies no one's thought about before...:nerd:
While my primary team is kicking azz and taking names, I fear that there will be those trainers who are out to get me, and make a team that pretty much counters mine...*cough *shadydentist*cough*...Ahem, sorry 'bout that...

As you may or may not have noticed, I tend to stray a bit away from the standard movesets of a lot of the OU/BL Pokemon, and still be rather effective in my opinion...

So I devised this team for the folks that can't take a loss lightly (not that my Water team can't tear them to shreds, which it does :p)...

==========
Bronzong - DoomRinger @ Leftovers
Bold / Levitate
EVs - 106 HP, 252 Def, 152 SpDf
~Shadow Ball
~HP Fighting
~Calm Mind
~Hypnosis

Put a foe to sleep, Calm Mind like crazy, and Sweep with the unstoppable combo of Ghost + Fighting! Blissey and Snorlax cause problems, however...I give Leftovers instead of the usual Occa Berry, because no one seems to use Fire attacks anymore, save for SpecsMence...Bronzong leads sometimes give me trouble, so I figured I could be just as annoying (in my own special way :grin:).

It's cool. Hypnosis leads are always annoying. Just watch for substitute/taunt starters, they'll mess you up.

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Ninjask - Shinobi @ Focus Sash/Leftovers
Jolly / Speed Boost
EVs - 6 HP, 252 Att, 252 Spd
~X-Scissor
~Swords Dance
~Baton Pass
~Protect/Substitute

I don't know if this is standard or not, but it works to my cause nonetheless. I use it mainly to BP some Speed and Attack to Dusknoir. Protect and Substitute will depend on my mood...

Alright, I guess. It's a standard Ninjask. You don't have a Rapid Spinner so any stealth rock users pretty much ruin him. Consider using him as a lead.
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Dusknoir - PhasePhist @ Expert Belt/Shell Bell/Leftovers
Careful / Pressure
EVs - 106 Att, 202 Def, 202 SpDf
~Shadow Sneak/Punch
~Brick Break
~Thunder Punch
~Ice Punch

This is my SuperSweeper, as long as it gets Ninjask's BP boosts.; decent Sweeper nonetheless. If you haven't noticed, I devised a repetiore for Dusknoir that allows it to take on any Pokemon type and hit for at least neutral damage...

IPunch + TPunch = Physical BoltBeam, resisted by only Magnezone, Lanturn, etc.
SSneak + BBreak = NOTHING RESISTS!!! BWAHAHAHAHA!!!

The item is what bothers me most: Expert Belt for a little extra damage on super-effective hits; Shell Bell should restore a decent amount of Dusknoir's crappy HP, because it'll be dealing massive amounts of damage to non-PhysiWalls (Skarmory >.<#), and will more than likely have much better HP than him; and Leftovers for steady recovery, though that doesn't count for much...

Interesting, using him as a sweeper... however if Ninjask dies and can't pass you can be walled pretty easily. Status inducers (specially a burn, toxic) would pretty much ruin your day too. Oh and use Shadow Sneak
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Azelf - Psychutie @ Choice Scarf/Specs/Wisdom Glasses/Life Orb/Expert Belt
Timid / Levitate
EVs - 6 HP, 252 SpAt, 252 Spd
~Psychic/Extrasensory
~Flamethrower
~Thunderbolt
~HP Fighting/Focus Blast

Azelf is supposed to be a great Special Sweeper, and I wanted to try it out. Psychic of course is for power, while Extrasensory has that small chance of Flinch in case the opponent survives; Flamethrower is for annoying little Steel types and any Bug that dares come up against it; Thunderbolt is for Empoleon and Starmie, which can take the first two attacks pretty well; and HP Fighting is for Blissey and Snorlax, possibly the only two Pokemon able to effectively take it down nonetheless. I wanted to go with a ScarfSweeping Azelf because of those other Scarfers such as Garchomp, Heracross, and sometimes Porygon-Z that can easily outspeed and trash Azelf if it didn't have the Scarf; but like any ChoiceSweeper, it requires a bit of scouting for it to be very effective. I have the Specs if I feel that Azelf could use a bit more punch; Expert Belt, Wisdom Glasses, and Life Orb for a freer attack strategy.

Did you know Azelf's Attack is just as good as its special attack? Its physical movepool is not that great though, so people tend to use him as a special sweeper. You could throw something physical in there to surprise Blisseys, as an unboosted HP Fighting won't do too much to it and Focus Blast is just plain unreliable.
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Salamence - Dreamer @ Expert Belt/Life Orb
Timid / Intimidate
EVs - Att 128, SpAt 128, Spd 252
~Dragon Pulse
~Flamethrower
~Earthquake
~Shadow Claw

I'm using Salamence as a MixSweeper; blasphemy, I know, but I think it can work...I use Dragon Pulse for STAB; Flamethrower for Steels, the only Pokemon that can resist DPulse; Earthquake for Electrics (who will almost always have an Ice attack) and Empoleon (the SpecsMence counter, big surprise for you :evil:); and Shadow Claw for toasty Ghosties and Psychics...Expert Belt and Life Orb give nice boosts to attacks...I've come to like the Belt...

Ok I guess. Maybe you can try Draco Meteor instead of Dragon Pulse as a punishing move, then follow up with physical attacks.
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Swampert - Muddin @ Leftovers/Rindo Berry
Careful / Torrent
EVs - 100 HP, 158 Def, 252 SpDf
~Earthquake
~Avalanche
~Hammer Arm
~Curse

I didn't have a Water type (which I absolutely must), nor a Pokemon that can absorb Thunderbolts and Waves, so I chose my favorite Water/Ground Pokemon: Swampert. Another CursePert...but wait! It has a Careful Nature and full SpDf EVs?! Well, yeah. I like to bit just a little surprising. I don't know exact calculations, but I feel that when someone uses a SpAttack (but God forbid it's a Grass move) and it does a third or fourth of the damage they expect, they be like: "OMG! Shadow Ball did CRAP!" and get a nice Curse-boosted (if applicable) EQ/Avalanche/HArm to the face :grin: .

I like! Though leftovers might not be enough to ensure a safe set-up... and you will be going last after Curse, so you'll be taking more hits after that. Consider chesto-resting.
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So, yeah...Another RMT to take up space in the Rating Room (not really, I have a need to be a winner). As usual, any and all help is greatly appreciated.

Credit goes to Aryman for making me realize my team has major flaws...

Shadydentist isn't out to get me, but I know his team totally counters my primary...


I apologize if you've gone blind mulitple times reading my posts, but blue is my favorite color...

Thanks, folks! Now let's make some MAGIC! :estatic::estatic::estatic::estatic::estatic:

>.< no prob. You should really think about a rapid spin/roar just in case.
 

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I post in red. Fire is red. Fire beats ice.

MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! :flame::evil:

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99
OMG, I swear these threads get so long so quickly...:lol:

@ W4M : Thanks for the compliment on my JaskNoir combo! And...

Ice, when heated, is water; Water pwns the **** out of Fire.

MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! :rotfl:


>.< no prob. You should really think about a rapid spin/roar just in case.
@ Aryman : :bigthumbu I've considered using Forretress or Donphan as Spinners; but my teams, in theory, usually work regardless of Spikes and Rocks, but that's because I don't like Ninjask all that much...

@Everyone : In your opinion, would my Bronzong or Ninjask be a better lead?
 

Wii4Mii 99

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OMG, I swear these threads get so long so quickly...:lol:

@ W4M : Thanks for the compliment on my JaskNoir combo! And...

Ice, when heated, is water; Water pwns the **** out of Fire.

MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! :rotfl:


Toshay...

@ Aryman : :bigthumbu I've considered using Forretress or Donphan as Spinners; but my teams, in theory, usually work regardless of Spikes and Rocks, but that's because I don't like Ninjask all that much...

@Everyone : In your opinion, would my Bronzong or Ninjask be a better lead?
I'd say Ninjask. Bronzong would be a good lead if it set up Stealth Rocks, Hypnosis'd things, and set up Sunny Day, Rain Dance, or Trick Room.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99
 
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