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[victra♥]

Alright y'all, i'm a little new to the competitive scene of Pokemon, so please, help. >.< Thanks in advance.

Infernape@Life Orb
Ability: Blaze
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Attack / 252 Speed
Flare Blitz
Close Combat
U-Turn
Thunderpunch

Lead; I saw this Infernape in someone's team a while back and i really liked it. Thunderpunch for Gyrados, U-Turn if the opponents lead is at an advantage, CC and FB obviously as well. Any Item ideas? Some help with natures and EVs as well.

Dusknoir@Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
Nature: Sassy
EVs: 252 HP/ 120 Defence / 120 Special Defence / 18 Attack
Will-O-Wisp
Pain Split
Shadow Sneak
Brick Break

Physical Wall; My physical wall, Will-O-Wisp to cause burn, Pain Split to stay alive, Shadow Sneak to make up for his slow speed and Brick Break for filler. Leftovers to help it stay alive.

Dugtrio@Choice Band
Ability: Arena Trap
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 255 Attack / 255 Speed
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Sucker Punch
Aerial Ace

Physical Sweeper; Arena Trap is sexy, Earthquake STAB. I can get rid of walls and Blisseys as well as others. Aerial Ace for Heracross and Breloom.

Miltank@
Ability:Thick Fat
Nature:
EVs:
Heal Bell
Milk Drink
Seismic Toss
Shadow Ball

Cleric; Basically an alternative to Blissey. Some help with EVs and Nature. >.< Should my item be Leftovers or something?

Starmie@Choice Specs
Ability: Natural Cure
Nature:Timid
EVs: 252 Special Attack / 252 Speed / 6 Special Defence
Thunderbolt
Grassknot
Surf
Ice Beam

Special Sweeper; Standard Starmie...i think. Surf gets STAB which is nice. Bolt-Beam to take care of whatever. Grassknot for them Swamperts out there.

Bronzong@Light Clay
Abilty: Levitation
Nature: Sassy
EVs: 252 HP / 200 Special Defence / 58 Defence
Gyro Ball
Earthquake
Hypnosis
Light Screen

Physical Wall/Supporter; Hypnosis, set up light screen, and thanks to Light clay, the effect will be prolonged longer Earthquake and Gyro Ball for some sexy damage.

Please, rate, critique and help. Thanks guys. : ]

 

[IC3R]

You could give Starmie either a Choice Scarf or Specs. Scarf to boost Speed like a monkey on espresso, or the Specs to boost its SpAttack like monkey on 'roids...Unfortunately, both limit your attacking strategy.

Then comes the Expert Belt, Wisdom Glasses, and Life Orb...Expert Belt increases damage done by Super-Effective moves, and with Star's wide attack variety, the jump will help.
The Glasses will slightly boost Special attacks, the only kind your Starmie uses, similar to the Choice Specs. The difference is the power boost and the ability to attack freely...It's a matter of preferrence...
And the Life Orb boosts all attacks by 30%, but drains health as the cost...


For Bronzong, the only thing I can think of is an Occa Berry--it weakens Super-Effective Fire attacks against its holder. And Fire is Bronzong's only weakness currently...

 

[mood4food77]

well, bronzong's attack is much better than it's special attack, so you could use another move over HP ice, like payback, facade, return, frustration, or rock slide

but HP ice is nice anyways

 

[Aryman]

Alright y'all, i'm a little new to the competitive scene of Pokemon, so please, help. >.< Thanks in advance.

Crobat@Focus Band
Ability: Inner Focus
Nature: Careful
EVs: 252 Speed/ 252 Special Defence/ 6 Attack
Hypnosis
Mean Look
Cross Poison
U-Turn

Lead; I really want to credit Wii4Mii for this. Thanks, I really like it.
So basically, you make the opponent fall asleep, you Mean Look it and then you U-Turn to a Sweeper or something.

First off, U-turn does not pass the effects of mean-look, as far as I know. Once you u-turn the opponent will be able to switch out.
Give it something other than cross poison. Poison has the worst type coverage, so you shouldn't have poison-type moves anyway.
I recommend confuse ray instead of mean look and Brave Bird/Aerial Ace instead of Cross Poison. Though you should know that there's no possible way to get both Hypnosis and Brave Bird at the same time on Crobat without hacking.

Dusknoir@Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
Nature: Sassy
EVs: 252 HP/ 120 Defence / 120 Special Defence / 18 Attack
Will-O-Wisp
Pain Split
Shadow Sneak
Brick Break

Physical Wall; My physical wall, Will-O-Wisp to cause burn, Pain Split to stay alive, Shadow Sneak to make up for his slow speed and Brick Break for filler. Leftovers to help it stay alive.

Good. This Dusknoir would be very hard to take down.

Dugtrio@Choice Band
Ability: Arena Trap
Nature: Adamant
EVs:252 Attack / 216 Special Defence / 42 Special Defence
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Sludge Bomb
Toxic

Physical Sweeper; Arena Trap is sexy, and with Toxic and Earthquake STAB, i can get rid of walls and Blisseys as well as others.

There's a lot of things wrong with this one.
Sludge Bomb is now a special move, so you shouldn't give it to Dugtrio. As I said earlier, it's got terrible type coverage anyway. Give it Shadow Claw or Aerial Ace.
Dugtrio should be played as a sweeper. So get rid of Toxic and give it Sucker Punch. I don't know why you would have toxic on someone who carries a Choice Band anyway...
Also, put all those Defensive EV's (you put sp.defense on there twice btw) into speed.
Finally, consider Stone Edge instead of Rock Slide. You only lose 10% accuracy and gain 25 base power and a high chance for criticals.

Breloom@Toxic Orb
Abilityoison Heal
Nature:Jolly
EVs: 250 Attack / 250 Speed / 10 HP
Spore
Focus Punch
Substitution
Seed Bomb

Another Sweeper? LOL; Sub, Spore, Focus Punch. Fairly Standard. Also, i totally ripped this off from Aryman. Toxic Orb causes poison, and thanks to Poison Heal, will keep him alive for a bit.


zomg you ripped off mah Breloomz!
You'll like this guy. Just make sure you don't switch him into someone's attack. He really can't take a strong hit. Wait till your opponent brings out something slower. I like to bring Breloom out on Blisseys and Spore right away. Even if they switch you'll have a free turn to set up a substitute.

Starmie@
Ability: Natural Cure
Nature:Timid
EVs: 252 Special Attack / 252 Speed / 6 Special Defence
Thunderbolt
Psychic
Surf
Ice Beam

Special Sweeper; Standard Starmie...i think. Psychic and Surf both get STAB which is nice. Bolt-Beam to take care of whatever. I need an idea for what item Starmie should have.

Choice specs would work well, since you have all attacking moves.

Bronzong@
Abilty: Levitation
Nature: Sassy
EVs: 252 HP / 200 Special Defence / 58 Defence
Gyro Ball
Earthquake
Hypnosis
HP [Ice]

Special Wall? I donno; Hypnosis and HP [Ice] against dragons, Earthquake and Gyro Ball for some sexy damage. I also need an idea for an item for Bronzong.

Bronzong is more of a physical wall/supporter. Replace Hidden Power with something like Light Screen. An Occa berry will halve the power of a fire type move once. This being Bronzong's only weakness it works well.

Please, rate, critique and help. Thanks guys. : ]

I really like some of your choices, like the Dusknoir. I don't know what you were thinking when you came up with that Dugtrio though...
If you want a better special wall look to Milotic. Its very durable, something a lot of your team is not.

 

[victra♥]

Thanks i really appreciate your help. I'll revise my team.

I was thinking about having a Milotic on my team, but who should i replace?

Also, Starmie and Milotic are both water type, and with Crobat, wouldn't i be totally owned over by Thunderbolts?

 

[Aryman]

Thanks i really appreciate your help. I'll revise my team.

I was thinking about having a Milotic on my team, but who should i replace?

Also, Starmie and Milotic are both water type, and with Crobat, wouldn't i be totally owned over by Thunderbolts?

Yes, yes it would. Your own Starmie could probably own that team >.<

Forget Milotic then, perhaps if you just give Bronzong Light Screen you'll get a nice resistance to special moves. Then you could try giving him a Light Clay item, which prolongs the duration of moves like LS and Reflect.

 

[victra♥]

I'd like a better lead poke. Should I replace him with a Swellow instead?

 

[shadydentist]

Alright y'all, i'm a little new to the competitive scene of Pokemon, so please, help. >.< Thanks in advance.

Crobat@Focus Band
Ability: Inner Focus
Nature: Careful
EVs: 252 Speed/ 252 Special Defence/ 6 Attack
Hypnosis
Mean Look
Cross Poison
U-Turn

Lead; I really want to credit Wii4Mii for this. Thanks, I really like it.
So basically, you make the opponent fall asleep, you Mean Look it and then you U-Turn to a Sweeper or something.

Yea, what he said about the mean look/u-turn thing.

Dusknoir@Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
Nature: Sassy
EVs: 252 HP/ 120 Defence / 120 Special Defence / 18 Attack
Will-O-Wisp
Pain Split
Shadow Sneak
Brick Break


Physical Wall; My physical wall, Will-O-Wisp to cause burn, Pain Split to stay alive, Shadow Sneak to make up for his slow speed and Brick Break for filler. Leftovers to help it stay alive.

Good.

Dugtrio@Choice Band
Ability: Arena Trap
Nature: Adamant
EVs:252 Attack / 216 Special Defence / 42 Special Defence
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Sludge Bomb
Toxic

Physical Sweeper; Arena Trap is sexy, and with Toxic and Earthquake STAB, i can get rid of walls and Blisseys as well as others.

#1, dugtrio NEEDS to outspeed anything it switches into. Therefore, you need all 252 on speed. Change its nature to jolly, and it is guaranteed to revenge kill at least 1 thing. And especially on a choice band set, you need to have the best type coverage you can possibly get.. Replace sludge bomb with Aerial Ace (for breloom/heracross) and replace toxic with either sucker punch or night slash.

Breloom@Toxic Orb
Abilityoison Heal
Nature:Jolly
EVs: 250 Attack / 250 Speed / 10 HP
Spore
Focus Punch
Substitution
Seed Bomb

Another Sweeper? LOL; Sub, Spore, Focus Punch. Fairly Standard. Also, i totally ripped this off from Aryman. Toxic Orb causes poison, and thanks to Poison Heal, will keep him alive for a bit.

good.

Starmie@
Ability: Natural Cure
Nature:Timid
EVs: 252 Special Attack / 252 Speed / 6 Special Defence
Thunderbolt
Psychic
Surf
Ice Beam

Special Sweeper; Standard Starmie...i think. Psychic and Surf both get STAB which is nice. Bolt-Beam to take care of whatever. I need an idea for what item Starmie should have.

Choice specs would be useful, life orb if you don't want to get locked into 1 move, and expert belt if you don't want to lose life.

Bronzong@
Abilty: Levitation
Nature: Sassy
EVs: 252 HP / 200 Special Defence / 58 Defence
Gyro Ball
Earthquake
Hypnosis
HP [Ice]

Special Wall? I donno; Hypnosis and HP [Ice] against dragons, Earthquake and Gyro Ball for some sexy damage. I also need an idea for an item for Bronzong.

You're really not going to be able to do much against dragons with Bronzong. It seems like your team can already take special hits okay, su maybe replace HP ice with reflect.

Please, rate, critique and help. Thanks guys. : ]

Things to watch out for:

-Half your team is weak to fire. Two resist, but still, be careful.
-2 weak to ghost and no resist.

 

[victra♥]

Guys guys guys, i need a better lead.
Also, who should i have to resist ghost? A normal type like Blissey or something?

 

[IC3R]

Guys guys guys, i need a better lead.
Also, who should i have to resist ghost? A normal type like Blissey or something?

Blissey's just...gay...

All the Blisseys in the world look so much a like it's boring...

Go with something original, to catch folks off-balance...like Lickilicky, Miltank, Exploud, Dodrio, the works...

Or you could use a Dark type...they're resist to Ghost rather than immune...which they are to Psychic...

 

[outofdashdwz]

That Crobat is the standard, and it has been developed on Smogon long ago and is used with the knowledge that U-Turn does not pass Mean Look. -_______-

Basically, Mean Look, Hypnosis, and U-Turn. On the turn that you use U-Turn, they will be stuck there sleeping, thus letting you switch to something that requires a one turn setup. In some cases, one turn is all you need. For example, say you U-Turn to a Charizard. Substitute on their switch and Belly Drum as they break your Substitute (hopefully not with Rock Blast), thus activating Salac and giving you a potential 6-0. U-Turning to Dugtrio is also a potential free kill if they remain asleep through Dugtrio's pounding as Arena Trap continues the trapping. There is something wrong with the Crobat, however. 252 HP / 252 Spd / 6 Atk should be your spread with Jolly. Also, poison is a crappy attacking type. Go with Aerial Ace or Air Slash (If it can learn it. Too lazy to check atm) if you go with Timid instead. Don't insult a creative set that doesn't seem to work without thinking through it thoroughly D:

About the team. Your EVs are a bit skewed. Besides the change in Crobat, go max speed on Dugtrio, cuz Raikous are almost nonexistent in the competitive scene now so you don't have to worry about surviving HP [Ice]. Also I don't get why you lose one speed and attack for 1 more HP on Breloom. O_o Just go 252/252/6. Hmm Dusknoir can't OHKO Tyranitar no matter what with Brick Break without the help of Spikes, and it can OHKO Weavile without any Attack EVs. You need 208 Attack EVs to 2HKO Azelf with Shadow Sneak, so it's not really worth it. Shadow Sneak will be a 2HKO on Alakazam with no investment in attack, so you might as well either put the EVs in a defense or change your moveset (Thunderpunch/Fire Punch) and pump more attack to deal with more threats (Gyarados and Heracross respectively). Speaking of EVs on defenses, to make your EVs more efficient, try using X-Act's defense applet.. Same goes with Bronzong.

 

[victra♥]

i updated my team. Some more criticism please.

 

[MysticKenji]

Infernape wants to be Adamant and have a Muscle Band

 

[shadydentist]

Infernape wants to be Adamant and have a Muscle Band

I disagree. Infernape wants jolly and Life Orb. He needs to go first.


I might still go with jolly over adamant on Dugtrio. Otherwise, naive Infernape outspeeds and ohkos you with grass knot, while you only 2hko him with sucker punch.

Maybe stick grass knot over psychic on Starmie. You could use the type coverage.

 

[victra♥]

Isn't Life Orb risky for Infernape?

And why does Starmie need Grass Knot? Surf and Thunderbolt already cover what Grass does. :/

 

[shadydentist]

Grass knot is mostly for swampert.

 

[victra♥]

oh i see. I forgot about that bugger.

I was thinking of having an Infernape with Grass Knot. Would that be okay?

 

[Metadour-2]

haha! That infernape couldn't be mine, could it?

It's the same thing. And you said you got it from someone's team. Teehee.


Mine works beautifully, despite what other people say.

I have Jolly w/ life orb.

The adamant boost isn't as significant as the speed boost w/jolly, especially when you consider life orb /whatever.

the only speed boosting item is the scarf, so unless you're using that, jolly FTW.

btw, infernape w/grass knot works well. but that would be a mixed sweeper, or you could make it special. in that case, the nature would hafta be hasty, something else i forgot, or timid for a pure special. your choice.

i believe the other pokes have been covered =)

 

[victra♥]

LOL Metadour, yeah i think it might have been from your team. xDDD It was too epix to pass up.
Oh, and Nah, i think i'll just replace Starmie's Psychic with Grass Knot instead.

Also, Miltank is still awaiting some help.

 

[shadydentist]

Starmie can switch into swampert much better than Infernape can, anyways.

 

[victra♥]

LOL Metadour, yeah i think it might have been from your team. xDDD It was too epix to pass up.
Oh, and Nah, i think i'll just replace Starmie's Psychic with Grass Knot instead.

Also, Miltank is still awaiting some help.

Come on Guyzzzz, help a player out.

 

[MysticKenji]

I know almost nothing about Miltank.

Max HP and a defensive spread should work though.

And Leftovers is fine

 

[victra♥]

I have Leftovers for Dusknoir. What if theres item clause or something?

 

[mood4food77]

well, milktank does have 100 base speed, for whatever reason

 

[victra♥]

Should i take that into consideration?