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Recording Videos with Mupen

Amon Amarth

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So I've been trying to capture video using mupen a couple of times, and I've tried every codec in the video compression list, and when it begins recording, the framerate is extremely low to the point where the game is in slow-mo.

Is there another way, or some other codec I can use to record with normal framerate?
 

Amon Amarth

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The game is supposed to be really slow. It's capturing all 60 frames in that process.
Really? So then how are people recording these online matches? They just play them all in slow-mo? Or am I missing something here...
 

Amon Amarth

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They record them first by recording a playback. When they are ready to record, they replay that playback and then start the AVI recording. I have a guide on it somewhere... let me go find it.

EDIT: Found it. See if this helps any: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=184780
I see, thanks. But uh, I have one issue, when ever I record a MKR, and try to play it back, things are screwed up. Like my character will be different, spacing and over positioning is wrong, so the play back is generally messed up.
 

marthmaster04

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I see, thanks. But uh, I have one issue, when ever I record a MKR, and try to play it back, things are screwed up. Like my character will be different, spacing and over positioning is wrong, so the play back is generally messed up.
Try adjusting your frame rates, and or playback speed? idk Lol or get a different recorder if you mean you're recording in MKR format, iirc MKR sucks balls. Find something that records in AVI. Then use BHLMRO's method.
 

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Amon Amarth

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Try adjusting your frame rates, and or playback speed? idk Lol or get a different recorder if you mean you're recording in MKR format, iirc MKR sucks balls. Find something that records in AVI. Then use BHLMRO's method.
MKR is the playback feature, not the actual video. My problem is that Mupen won't playback what I did correctly, and my character will be attacking nothing or the opponent in the wrong place.
 

marthmaster04

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MKR is the playback feature, not the actual video. My problem is that Mupen won't playback what I did correctly, and my character will be attacking nothing or the opponent in the wrong place.
Lol thats a desynch in the recording, Idk how to fix that really. All you can do is retry recording new matches. Does it do it every time? Cuz if not its just a single case of that. Make sure you don't have anything running while recording like torrents or downloads, or anything that sends packets. it could ALSO be something wrong with mupen. Idk what that could be tho, since i dont use it outside of ppl requesting me to
 

Amon Amarth

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Lol thats a desynch in the recording, Idk how to fix that really. All you can do is retry recording new matches. Does it do it every time? Cuz if not its just a single case of that. Make sure you don't have anything running while recording like torrents or downloads, or anything that sends packets. it could ALSO be something wrong with mupen. Idk what that could be tho, since i dont use it outside of ppl requesting me to
Yeah, it happens everytime. Though I havn't tried recording online matches yet, im just testing them on my own to see, and they seem to DS everytime. I've tried un-RARing mupen several times to see if it was mupen, but i still have the same problem. I guess ill try different video plug ins, as im using Jabo's Direct3D8.

EDIT: Nope...still DS
 

marthmaster04

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Yeah, it happens everytime. Though I havn't tried recording online matches yet, im just testing them on my own to see, and they seem to DS everytime. I've tried un-RARing mupen several times to see if it was mupen, but i still have the same problem. I guess ill try different video plug ins, as im using Jabo's Direct3D8.

EDIT: Nope...still DS
I think you've gotta use rice's plugin for recording, and yea it might be because you're not online.
 

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1- Use intra-game frame capture when playing.

2- Record the captured stuff afterwards, if it doesnt work with mupen, with an external program.

3- Make sure you have all the codecs.

4- You should also keep trying until you have a good quality with a low filesize, then memorise the setup
 

Amon Amarth

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1- Use intra-game frame capture when playing.

2- Record the captured stuff afterwards, if it doesnt work with mupen, with an external program.

3- Make sure you have all the codecs.

4- You should also keep trying until you have a good quality with a low filesize, then memorise the setup
Intra-game? Never herd of it, is it a video plug-in?

And actual video recording isn't the problem, the playback keeps desyncing on me.

I tried rice's plug-in, still desyncs. I guess I have to be online, I'll try to play a friend later to see if that is the problem.
 

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Intra-game? Never herd of it, is it a video plug-in?

And actual video recording isn't the problem, the playback keeps desyncing on me.

I tried rice's plug-in, still desyncs. I guess I have to be online, I'll try to play a friend later to see if that is the problem.


Are you trying to record combos?
When I was recording combos I had to stop recording and then start over, and rename...all that jazz. It doesnt work if you just start from the reset, or something like that.
 

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Are there other things I can use besides XVID? I have the codecs from CCCP's stuff I was wondering if any of those work. I can't find out what to do, every time I make a video it's a white blank screen. This is while I'm trying to convert to AVI while doing the playback on mupen.
 

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Are there other things I can use besides XVID? I have the codecs from CCCP's stuff I was wondering if any of those work. I can't find out what to do, every time I make a video it's a white blank screen. This is while I'm trying to convert to AVI while doing the playback on mupen.
Divx and x264 are good ones. They both give a decent quality and a (kind of) small size that's good for uploading straight to youtube without having to compress through any program.
 

Amon Amarth

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Loading save states desyncs the video.
But its not save states that I'm using. Just the playback. I record the playback, stop, reload mupen and start up smash, then I start the playback of what I just did, and the actual playback is incorrect. I happens every time.
 

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Using Mupen for combos is kinda annoying, i use fraps for recording Combos, because all you have to do is set your basic hotkey...then when you get your finished combo simply delete all the prior saves
 

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finally something to agree on...HyperCam, Fraps, and camstudio are all FREE

if you know what your doing >_>

they have much better options and a far nicer interface
 

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finally something to agree on...HyperCam, Fraps, and camstudio are all FREE

if you know what your doing >_>

they have much better options and a far nicer interface
haha NO

I pity you people that can't figure out how to work with mupen's recorder. All it takes is a little effort to learn it and you can get 60 FPS PERFECT videos on any computer. Mupen has by FAR the most options.
 

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But its not save states that I'm using. Just the playback. I record the playback, stop, reload mupen and start up smash, then I start the playback of what I just did, and the actual playback is incorrect. I happens every time.
Yeah man, I think if the characters are on different spots on the screen when you start your playback, you should get some screw-ups. the characters will execute the same inputs but since they started in different spots and some variables are different(tornados N ****), you will get different output.

So to fix your problem you need to stop recording and rerecord a lot***IF you're doing combos, that is***

If you're having this much trouble with a regular game then I'm sorry.
 

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haha NO

I pity you people that can't figure out how to work with mupen's recorder. All it takes is a little effort to learn it and you can get 60 FPS PERFECT videos on any computer. Mupen has by FAR the most options.
"save your pitty for the weak!" - Shang Sung (lol)

i dont remember ever saying i couldnt...but you would be the first to be happy if i couldnt eh?

Need zah boost?

u r teh lulz¿!
 

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Intra-game? Never herd of it, is it a video plug-in?

And actual video recording isn't the problem, the playback keeps desyncing on me.

I tried rice's plug-in, still desyncs. I guess I have to be online, I'll try to play a friend later to see if that is the problem.
I meant, Mupen has two recording features: one that records directly to a video file, and the another records the games frame by frame but not doesnt create any video file, and you can watch it afterwards (use this one)
 

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finally something to agree on...HyperCam, Fraps, and camstudio are all FREE

if you know what your doing >_>

they have much better options and a far nicer interface
Except Fraps makes mupen lag insanely.

Yeah man, I think if the characters are on different spots on the screen when you start your playback, you should get some screw-ups. the characters will execute the same inputs but since they started in different spots and some variables are different(tornados N ****), you will get different output.

So to fix your problem you need to stop recording and rerecord a lot***IF you're doing combos, that is***

If you're having this much trouble with a regular game then I'm sorry.
The wierd thing is, I always start the playback right when smash loads; at the N64 screen. So there shouldnt be any problems....yet there is.


I meant, Mupen has two recording features: one that records directly to a video file, and the another records the games frame by frame but not doesnt create any video file, and you can watch it afterwards (use this one)
Right, that's what i'm trying to say. I use the feature that records playback, not video file, and when i replay it, it's screwed up and incorrect. And I don't want to just record into a video file directly because it turns the game into slow-mo.


Wow...so I guess no one has any idea? I mean, surely someone must have encountered this problem. Also, when I start recording the play back, I get some wierd error message:

http://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mupenerrorld1.jpg
 

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Except Fraps makes mupen lag insanely.



The wierd thing is, I always start the playback right when smash loads; at the N64 screen. So there shouldnt be any problems....yet there is.




Right, that's what i'm trying to say. I use the feature that records playback, not video file, and when i replay it, it's screwed up and incorrect. And I don't want to just record into a video file directly because it turns the game into slow-mo.


Wow...so I guess no one has any idea? I mean, surely someone must have encountered this problem. Also, when I start recording the play back, I get some wierd error message:

http://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mupenerrorld1.jpg
well I dont use Mupen much...but i still think itd be your computer..and not Mupen..but maybe it is..i dont know honestly
 

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Fraps lags the game terribly but the sound is perfect
Camstuido has too large files but barely if any lags the game and the sound lags as well
Hypercam 2 has that unregistered symbol....(but who cares), and less lag, and the sound works fine

If you do use hypercam which I use, here are my settings apart from sound
Rate in Frames per second: Record 55, Playback 55 (all, but lower so it doesn't lag and the files are of a fine size)
Cursor/Full Frame capture ratio: 1 (normal)
Key frame every 100 frames
Video compression: recommended setting
Frame compression quality: 80 percent
 

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Amon Amarth said:
Right, that's what i'm trying to say. I use the feature that records playback, not video file, and when i replay it, it's screwed up and incorrect. And I don't want to just record into a video file directly because it turns the game into slow-mo.
Thats because it desynched. It can also desynch in playbacks. You probably chose some random stuff like character or stage or an items cheat turned on/off issue.

That depends on the computer you use, and the program Camstudio is light, doesnt take much memory and free. But it makes the video files so big and low quality. Doesnt make any lag.
Record first with the biggest possible quality.
Then compress it to a smaller size and still good enough quality with windows movie maker.
 

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I actually get the same problem. I got pissed with it and just went with hypercam instead.
 

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Mupen is good to use for almost anything, but everybody only uses pj64k on the server... So you have to use hypercam to record videos of fighting and other crap on there, etc.... unless they use mupen on there..... Hypercam is the best, besides recording with mupen... thats what I use, and all of my videos turned out fine... Just have to fool around with it until it fits your settings or whatever you doing... but if you just doing stuff by yourself, then mupen is the best way to go.



MATTS!
 

Amon Amarth

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but if you just doing stuff by yourself, then mupen is the best way to go.
And see, Mupen ALWAYS desyncs my playback recordings. As I've been saying, i record, and the playback is totally wrong.

It's really odd that everyone else seems to be ok in that aspect except me -_-
 

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And see, Mupen ALWAYS desyncs my playback recordings. As I've been saying, i record, and the playback is totally wrong.

It's really odd that everyone else seems to be ok in that aspect except me -_-
I have that problem as well.

And p2p recording doesn't even work at all.
 

NixxxoN

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p2p recording works well, but Mupen seems to take a lot more PC resources when doing playback and recording at the same time.
Maybe ask Isai, he records well with Mupen
 
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