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Rate mah Uberful team

Fuelbi

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So I made this for the Ubers tourney and now that it's over (or at least for me), I thought I could get it rated.


Groudon @ Leftovers
Trait: Drought
EVs: 252 HP / 156 Atk / 32 Def / 8 Spd / 60 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Dragon Claw
- Earthquake
- Stealth Rock
- Thunder Wave
Basically Groudon comes in and sets up SR. Then I use T-wave for paralyzing and what not. Depending on what's out, I could either use Dragon Claw to take out those pesky dragon types or I could use EQ for anything else.


Dialga @ Expert Belt
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 224 HP / 32 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Thunder
- Fire Blast
- Draco Meteor
- Earth Power
Dialga can come in on water types like Kyogre and Thunder it to death, or I could come in and use FB on pokemon such as Shaymin. Draco Meteor serves to take out dragon types that can switch in like Palkia, Giratina or another Dialga. EP.... well I have that in for filler reason, seeing as I never really use it.


Jumpluff (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Chlorophyll
EVs: 188 Def / 252 Spd / 68 SDef
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Leech Seed
- Sleep Powder
- Substitute
- Encore
With Jumpluff monstrous speed, I can basically do either one of 2 things. I could put it to sleep first and start stalling with leech seed/substitute until the pokemon dies, or I could put it to sleep first and if I notice the person won't switch to another pokemon, I can just switch in my Mewtwo and start using Calm Mind till the cows come home. I can also do the same thing with Encore, ONLY IF if the pokemon is locked into a stat raising move, where I can switch into my Mewtwo and start doing the same thing.


Deoxys-A @ Focus Sash
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Grass Knot
- Ice Beam
- Shadow Ball
- Thunder
Deoxys-A can come in an sweep a team. I can use Thunder to take out any water types. I use Ice Beam mostly for Shaymins or Groudons. Shadow Ball serves mostly to take care of Giratina. One would say that switching in to Giratina is pretty stupid, but with Focus Sash, I can ensure I won't get OHKO and at least try to 2HKO it. Thing is, sometimes that doesn't work and the person happened to make their Giratina bulky enough that it won't be 2HKO it with SB. Grass Knot can also be for taking out anything that's weak to grass... yeah


Wobbuffet (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Shadow Tag
EVs: 28 HP / 228 Def / 252 SDef
Lonely Nature (+Atk, -Def)
- Encore
- Counter
- Mirror Coat
- Safeguard
Wobb.... well we all know what Wobb does right? But if you don't then I can keep anybody in with shadow tag and encore it. Then depending on whether the attack it's locked into is physical or special I can MC/Counter it to death. If it locks into a non damaging move, then well.... it's time to start stalling or switch out.


Mewtwo @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Aura Sphere
- Calm Mind
- Substitute
- Ice Beam
Mewtwo can switch into a pokemon that's been encored/sleep powdered and start using CM to start raising it's stats. If a Darkrai is out, my higher speed can basically guarantee that I'll get aura sphere to hit first, ensuring a KO. Ice Beam, if I'm all out of options (and by that I mean if Mewtwo is the only one left in the party), I can TRY to KO Giratina with IB, though that's not very likely

So first thing you can tell: my team has a glaring weakness to Ghost-Types. Sure, I have Deo A to take care of them, but come on. I've tested it out with a Focus Sash and the Shadow Ball DOES NOT OHKO Giratina among other ghost types the first turn I use a lot of the time. Normally I wouldn't have that much of a problem with Giratina, but most of the ones I've faced off use Shadow Sneak, so they're always faster.

Other than that, my team doesn't have that many problems... or I think it doesn't. So anyways, suggestions plox on improving this team?
 

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It would help a lot if you told us what everything was meant to do for the team. You know, so we might be able to tell you what to drop and what to add to help you deal with things.
 

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It would help a lot if you told us what everything was meant to do for the team. You know, so we might be able to tell you what to drop and what to add to help you deal with things.
ok, ok, I'll put what everything is supposed to do then.

EDIT: There, done
 

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Give Dialga Dragon Pulse instead of Earth Power. Consider a Chople or Shuca Berry, or even a Scarf or Specs.

Why does Deoxys-A have a Focus Sash? Furthermore, why Deoxys-A?
 

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If you read the description, focus sash is to not be OHKO'd by Giratina so I can try to take it out with SB

And DeoA because... well it's a good pokemon ain't it?
 

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Focus Sash is OHKOd by Groudon, Deoxys-S, Dialga, Forretress, and more.
 

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Ok, it is when there are hazzards up, but most of the time people just ignore that when I play.

And then what should I replace DeoA with?
 
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Try Palkia instead of Deoxys-A.

Palkia @ Choice Scarf
Timid
252 SpA / 252 Spe / 4 HP

Spacial Rend
Surf
Fire Blast
Thunder
 

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I was going to suggest Palkia, but it doesn't have the same type coverage. Still a great Pokémon, though.

Other possibilities: Kyogre, Latios, Darkrai
 

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Actually, you need something to keep yourself from getting completely swept by SD or DD Rayquaza. A faster Dialga set would save you against SD variants (and I might actually recommend that you do that tbh, because it can also help you against Giratina-O), but you still won't be safe against DD sets. A ScarfRachi set would remedy the Quaza issue quite nicely.

I guess Palkia does the job as well, but I thought I'd give you another option. Thank Riddle for it though. I just told him you were Quaza weak and he said ScarfRachi.

Yay for waiting until after the Crew battles to pull out my help.
 

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Actually, you need something to keep yourself from getting completely swept by SD or DD Rayquaza. A faster Dialga set would save you against SD variants (and I might actually recommend that you do that tbh, because it can also help you against Giratina-O), but you still won't be safe against DD sets. A ScarfRachi set would remedy the Quaza issue quite nicely.

I guess Palkia does the job as well, but I thought I'd give you another option. Thank Riddle for it though. I just told him you were Quaza weak and he said ScarfRachi.
Palkia's Surf is killed by Drought, which is worth noting. Rachi's Fire Punch is boosted.

Yay for waiting until after the Crew battles to pull out my help.
WHAT A JERK MIRITE
 

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Palkia's Surf is killed by Drought, which is worth noting. Rachi's Fire Punch is boosted.
Yeah, but leading with Groudon can end up meaning rain in the late-game, which is why I didn't bother mentioning the weakened Surf. Plus, at least from what I've found over my time playing Ubers, Surf actually isn't used that much on (Scarf) Palkia. You'll be using Spacial Rend more than anything else, because it's not weather-dependent and it also hits more things in Ubers for at least neutral damage. It's just simply the better choice most of the time.

And I don't recall the set that Riddle mentioned having Fire Punch on it, but I'm not gonna lie...it seems like it would be a decent choice for this team, considering Dialga is the ONLY thing that can KO Forry before it gets up at least 2 layers of (T)Spikes. Needs moar Fire dammit.
 

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So I'm confused, what am I supposed to do about my Deo problem?
Get rid of him and put in either ScarfRachi or ScarfKia. The ScarfRachi set is Iron Head/Ice Punch/U-Turn/Fire Punch. The ScarfKia set is Surf/Spacial Rend/Thunder/Fire Blast (Outrage can also go over Fire Blast, but I wouldn't recommend it).

Pick your poison and run with it.
 

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Get rid of him and put in either ScarfRachi or ScarfKia. The ScarfRachi set is Iron Head/Ice Punch/U-Turn/Fire Punch. The ScarfKia set is Surf/Spacial Rend/Thunder/Fire Blast (Outrage can also go over Fire Blast, but I wouldn't recommend it).

Pick your poison and run with it.
Ok, I chose ScarfKia

Any other suggestions for this team?
 

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Lol, it was Writer that gave you a choice. as much as we think alike (not much at all really) we are NOT the same person :p
 
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