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Rate jpp8's team... No, it's not all OU. rate it anyway.

jigglyppuff8

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Here is my team:


Skarmory/Skarmaurie @ Sharp Beak
Nature: Impish +def -sp.atk
Metagame tier: OU
Trait: Sturdy
EVs :255def/255speed
IVs: 23HP/17atk/28def/17speed

Moveset:
Roar
Spikes
Drill Peck
Roost

This is the usual skarmory, although I think I messed up with the speed EVs. Spikes for switching out pain and roar for a forced switchout. Drill Peck for an attack and Roost for healing.


Vaporeon/Vaporieyon @ Mystic Water
Nature: Modest +sp.atk -atk
Metagame tier: BL
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 sp. atk/?????
IVs:5sp.atk/?????

Moveset:
Hydro Pump
Surf
Ice Beam
Acid Armor

Okay here's the first pokemon I ever EV trained. Not very good eh? Well I manage to make do with it. Hydro Pump for maximum water attack and surf for a basic water attack. Ice beam for dragons and acid armor to help protect it if I get a chance to use it. With this one, I do remember giving it a couple Zincs and HP Ups and also killed some graveler with it. It can survive a thunder fang and solarbeam from an Arcanine and survives a non-stat raised t-bolt from a porygon-z. Also good for switching in when a water attack is launched.


Flygon/Fligon @ Focus Sash
Nature: Jolly +speed -sp. atk
Metagame tier: BL
Trait: Levitate
EVs:255 speed/255 atk
IVs:24atk/24speed

Moveset:
Dragon Claw
Crunch
Fire Blast
Earthquake

None of my real teams would be complete without this Pokemon. It outspeeds most salamance and ,occasionally, Weaviles. Dragon Claw for Dragons, Crunch for Psychics, and Earthquake for almost everything else. Fire Blast for forretress and Skarmory. Focus sash helps deal it at least deal one hit on a Garchomp or Salamance considering its HP is full. Also for some reason, it does all the sweeping...

Luxray/Lucksray @ Muscle Band
Nature: Adamant +atk -sp. atk.
Metagame Tier:MU
Trait:Intimidate
EVs:252 atk/252 speed/4HP
IVs:5atk/15speed

Moveset:
Spark
Ice Fang
Fire Fang
Crunch

For this one, I care more about the type versatility than its ability to attack. Spark over Thunder Fang because it has more PP, the same power, and more accuracy. Ice and Fire fangs for type coverage and Crunch for everything else.


Breloom/Braylume @ Toxic Orb
Nature: Adamant
Metagame Tier: BL
Trait:poison Heal
EVs:255 atk/255 speed
IVs:19atk/21speed

Moveset:
Seed Bomb
Substitute
Sky Uppercut
Leech Seed

First off, substitute to activate toxic orb thus activating poison heal. In two turns, poison heal will heal the substitute damage. Leech Seed is for torturing opponent when I have a sub up. Also help heals up sub damage quicker. Seed bomb and Sky uppercut for attacking moves. Sky uppercut over Sub-Punch because sub-punch never works for me.


Porygon-z/Poreegon-z @ Expert Belt
Nature: Modest
Metagame Tier: OU
Trait: Download
EVs:255sp.atk/255speed
IVs:16sp.atk/25speed

Moveset:
Thunderbolt
Agility
Tri Attack
Ice Beam

Well here is my final pokemon. T-bolt and Ice beam for type coverage and get a welcome boost from download and/or expert belt. Tri-attack gets STAB and is used for everything else. Porygon-z is resiliant for some reason and can get a speed boost from agility if I use it which comes in handy later in the battle. Also I tried nasty plot and it doesnt' work very well with me.


Well here's my team with 255 EVs, poor IVs, and little competition grade pokemon. Rates anyone?
 

IC3R

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Messages
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Location
Fayetteville, GA
Here is my team:


Skarmory/Skarmaurie @ Sharp Beak
Nature: Impish +def -sp.atk
Metagame tier: OU
Trait: Sturdy
EVs :255def/255speed
IVs: 23HP/17atk/28def/17speed

Moveset:
Roar
Spikes
Drill Peck
Roost

This is the usual skarmory, although I think I messed up with the speed EVs. Spikes for switching out pain and roar for a forced switchout. Drill Peck for an attack and Roost for healing.

Yep, usual Skarmory.


Vaporeon/Vaporieyon @ Mystic Water
Nature: Modest +sp.atk -atk
Metagame tier: BL
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 sp. atk/?????
IVs:5sp.atk/?????

Moveset:
Hydro Pump
Surf
Ice Beam
Acid Armor

Okay here's the first pokemon I ever EV trained. Not very good eh? Well I manage to make do with it. Hydro Pump for maximum water attack and surf for a basic water attack. Ice beam for dragons and acid armor to help protect it if I get a chance to use it. With this one, I do remember giving it a couple Zincs and HP Ups and also killed some graveler with it. It can survive a thunder fang and solarbeam from an Arcanine and survives a non-stat raised t-bolt from a porygon-z. Also good for switching in when a water attack is launched.

Have you ever considered doing a Sleeper Sweeper with Vaporeon? With its massive HP, it could survive and pwn most everything out there, all while taking a nap. Just EV its Defense and Special Defense.


Flygon/Fligon @ Focus Sash
Nature: Jolly +speed -sp. atk
Metagame tier: BL
Trait: Levitate
EVs:255 speed/255 atk
IVs:24atk/24speed

Moveset:
Dragon Claw
Crunch
Fire Blast
Earthquake

None of my real teams would be complete without this Pokemon. It outspeeds most salamance and ,occasionally, Weaviles. Dragon Claw for Dragons, Crunch for Psychics, and Earthquake for almost everything else. Fire Blast for forretress and Skarmory. Focus sash helps deal it at least deal one hit on a Garchomp or Salamance considering its HP is full. Also for some reason, it does all the sweeping...

If you want a Fire move for Flygon, use Flamethrower. It may be slightly weaker, but it's much more reliable. Still O/THKOs Skarmory and Forretress. But I do see why you gave it Fire Blast...Jolly Nature.

Luxray/Lucksray @ Muscle Band
Nature: Adamant +atk -sp. atk.
Metagame Tier:MU
Trait:Intimidate
EVs:252 atk/252 speed/4HP
IVs:5atk/15speed

Moveset:
Spark
Ice Fang
Fire Fang
Crunch

For this one, I care more about the type versatility than its ability to attack. Spark over Thunder Fang because it has more PP, the same power, and more accuracy. Ice and Fire fangs for type coverage and Crunch for everything else.

Alrighty...


Breloom/Braylume @ Toxic Orb
Nature: Adamant
Metagame Tier: BL
Trait:poison Heal
EVs:255 atk/255 speed
IVs:19atk/21speed

Moveset:
Seed Bomb
Substitute
Sky Uppercut
Leech Seed

First off, substitute to activate Toxic Orb thus activating Poison Heal. In two turns, poison heal will heal the substitute damage. Leech Seed is for torturing opponent when I have a sub up. Also help heals up sub damage quicker. Seed bomb and Sky uppercut for attacking moves. Sky uppercut over Sub-Punch because sub-punch never works for me.

Whatever works...

Porygon-z/Poreegon-z @ Expert Belt
Nature: Modest
Metagame Tier: OU
Trait: Download
EVs:255sp.atk/255speed
IVs:16sp.atk/25speed

Moveset:
Thunderbolt
Agility
Tri Attack
Ice Beam

Well here is my final pokemon. T-bolt and Ice beam for type coverage and get a welcome boost from download and/or expert belt. Tri-attack gets STAB and is used for everything else. Porygon-z is resiliant for some reason and can get a speed boost from agility if I use it which comes in handy later in the battle. Also I tried nasty plot and it doesnt' work very well with me.

I'm having a similar situation with P-Z myself. If it's going to be a Special Sweeper, it needs good Speed--Give it a Timid Nature. Probably the reason Nasty Plot didn't work well is because it was much slower than its Max. But again, whatever works best for you.

Well here's my team with 255 EVs, poor IVs, and little competition grade pokemon. Rates anyone?
Looks good to me. We need Wii4Mii and chubb-o-wub in here. Maybe MysticKenji, too...They can give you better ratings and advice than me, okay as it is...
 

shadydentist

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Location
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Here is my team:


Skarmory/Skarmaurie @ Sharp Beak
Nature: Impish +def -sp.atk
Metagame tier: OU
Trait: Sturdy
EVs :255def/255speed
IVs: 23HP/17atk/28def/17speed

Moveset:
Roar
Spikes
Drill Peck
Roost

This is the usual skarmory, although I think I messed up with the speed EVs. Spikes for switching out pain and roar for a forced switchout. Drill Peck for an attack and Roost for healing.

Not a game breaker, but whirlwind is slightly better than roar because of soundproof. And whats with the speed evs? Skarmory needs as much HP as he can get.


Vaporeon/Vaporieyon @ Mystic Water
Nature: Modest +sp.atk -atk
Metagame tier: BL
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 sp. atk/?????
IVs:5sp.atk/?????

Moveset:
Hydro Pump
Surf
Ice Beam
Acid Armor

Okay here's the first pokemon I ever EV trained. Not very good eh? Well I manage to make do with it. Hydro Pump for maximum water attack and surf for a basic water attack. Ice beam for dragons and acid armor to help protect it if I get a chance to use it. With this one, I do remember giving it a couple Zincs and HP Ups and also killed some graveler with it. It can survive a thunder fang and solarbeam from an Arcanine and survives a non-stat raised t-bolt from a porygon-z. Also good for switching in when a water attack is launched.

With all those qusetion marks its probably worth retraining a vaporeon. Replace acid armor with haze, as it will probably come in handy. I wouldn't use two water attacks, so if you want it to sweep, replace surf or hydro pump with hp fire. For support, yawn is good, toxic is good, wish is really good, etc. Actually, with your high hp and good special defense, vaporeon could make a good wish passer.


Flygon/Fligon @ Focus Sash
Nature: Jolly +speed -sp. atk
Metagame tier: BL
Trait: Levitate
EVs:255 speed/255 atk
IVs:24atk/24speed

Moveset:
Dragon Claw
Crunch
Fire Blast
Earthquake

None of my real teams would be complete without this Pokemon. It outspeeds most salamance and ,occasionally, Weaviles. Dragon Claw for Dragons, Crunch for Psychics, and Earthquake for almost everything else. Fire Blast for forretress and Skarmory. Focus sash helps deal it at least deal one hit on a Garchomp or Salamance considering its HP is full. Also for some reason, it does all the sweeping...

I'm not a fan of flygon. Garchomp can do this set much better than Flygon can. Actually, garchomp is better than flygon in every single way except for the lack of levitate.

Luxray/Lucksray @ Muscle Band
Nature: Adamant +atk -sp. atk.
Metagame Tier:MU
Trait:Intimidate
EVs:252 atk/252 speed/4HP
IVs:5atk/15speed

Moveset:
Spark
Ice Fang
Fire Fang
Crunch

For this one, I care more about the type versatility than its ability to attack. Spark over Thunder Fang because it has more PP, the same power, and more accuracy. Ice and Fire fangs for type coverage and Crunch for everything else.

good... ish...


Breloom/Braylume @ Toxic Orb
Nature: Adamant
Metagame Tier: BL
Trait:poison Heal
EVs:255 atk/255 speed
IVs:19atk/21speed

Moveset:
Seed Bomb
Substitute
Sky Uppercut
Leech Seed

First off, substitute to activate toxic orb thus activating poison heal. In two turns, poison heal will heal the substitute damage. Leech Seed is for torturing opponent when I have a sub up. Also help heals up sub damage quicker. Seed bomb and Sky uppercut for attacking moves. Sky uppercut over Sub-Punch because sub-punch never works for me.

No spore?


Porygon-z/Poreegon-z @ Expert Belt
Nature: Modest
Metagame Tier: OU
Trait: Download
EVs:255sp.atk/255speed
IVs:16sp.atk/25speed

Moveset:
Thunderbolt
Agility
Tri Attack
Ice Beam

Well here is my final pokemon. T-bolt and Ice beam for type coverage and get a welcome boost from download and/or expert belt. Tri-attack gets STAB and is used for everything else. Porygon-z is resiliant for some reason and can get a speed boost from agility if I use it which comes in handy later in the battle. Also I tried nasty plot and it doesnt' work very well with me.

Actually, I like agility better than nasty plot. That way it can outspeed infernape who ohkos it with closecombat. Among other things.


Well here's my team with 255 EVs, poor IVs, and little competition grade pokemon. Rates anyone?
Not too bad. Typing wise, your team is very good.
 

MysticKenji

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Skarmory wants Whirlwind over Roar and Max HP over Max Speed

Vaporeon should be retrained. Since, I know next to nothing about it, go with Shadydentist.

Your team is weak to an E-Vire/Infernape combo. But who uses that?
 

IC3R

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Location
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Skarmory wants Whirlwind over Roar and Max HP over Max Speed

Vaporeon should be retrained. Since, I know next to nothing about it, go with Shadydentist.

Your team is weak to an E-Vire/Infernape combo. But who uses that?
And then chubb-o-wub pops in saying "I do!" l o l.

I had forgotten about Whirlwind...and yes, Skarmory needs HP more than Speed...

Again, one option for Vaporeon is the idea of...
------------------------------
Sleeper Sweeper Vaporeon: Strategy - Sleep'n'Sweep (heh...I like that)
@ Leftovers @ Water Absorb
Bold Nature (+Def,-Att)
EV - Def 252, SpDf 152, Spd/SpAt 106 (your choice)

Surf <-- STAB, High Power
Hidden Power (Electric) <-- For pesky Water types like Gyarados and Milotic (Surf can cover Swampert), hope it doesn't hit E-Vire while Sleep-Sweeping
Rest <-- Restore HP fully and heal status condition
Sleep Talk <-- Sets up Sleep'n'Sweep, Max out the PP for maximum results

Attack, attack, attack. Rest. Sleep Talk until it's out of PP. Use HP Electric on the Gyarados staple, the Milotic Wall, and Rock-Roar Empoleon, as well as SpikeWind Skarmory. Use Surf for everything else. Always worked in the Metal and Jewel cases. Be careful around E-Vire, you may accidentally activate Motor Drive with HP Electric. Wish actually sounds better than Rest, unless E-Vire's faster than Vaporeon, in which case Wish will heal the next guy you send out, because ThunderPunch>owns>Vaporeon. ThunderPunch is why Vaporeon is Bold and has Def EVs, plus Earthquake from Garchomp.

I can't think of an attack to replace for Breloom's Spore. Maybe that's why you don't Sub-Seed very well...No Spore! Probably Leech Seed...
*Could we get a professional in here?!*:laugh:

Sorry to make two posts of the same topic (RMT?), I make better decisions and give better advice when I see someone else's opinion, agreeing or not.
You guys have been playing longer than me (hopefully:nerd:), so you have more experience with how other Trainers play (Wi-Fi), whereas I'll eventually know all the new tricks. After all, I was once a professional team-builder.:chuckle:
 

Wii4Mii 99

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Joined
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Messages
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Here is my team:


Skarmory/Skarmaurie @ Sharp Beak
Nature: Impish +def -sp.atk
Metagame tier: OU
Trait: Sturdy
EVs :255def/255speed
IVs: 23HP/17atk/28def/17speed

Moveset:
Roar
Spikes
Drill Peck
Roost

This is the usual skarmory, although I think I messed up with the speed EVs. Spikes for switching out pain and roar for a forced switchout. Drill Peck for an attack and Roost for healing.

No, this is the standard Skarmory:

Skarmory @ Leftovers
Sturdy
Impish
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Atk
-Spikes / Stealth Rock
-Whirlwind
-Roost
-Drill Peck



Vaporeon/Vaporieyon @ Mystic Water
Nature: Modest +sp.atk -atk
Metagame tier: BL
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 sp. atk/?????
IVs:5sp.atk/?????

Moveset:
Hydro Pump
Surf
Ice Beam
Acid Armor

Okay here's the first pokemon I ever EV trained. Not very good eh? Well I manage to make do with it. Hydro Pump for maximum water attack and surf for a basic water attack. Ice beam for dragons and acid armor to help protect it if I get a chance to use it. With this one, I do remember giving it a couple Zincs and HP Ups and also killed some graveler with it. It can survive a thunder fang and solarbeam from an Arcanine and survives a non-stat raised t-bolt from a porygon-z. Also good for switching in when a water attack is launched.

I'd make it Bold and add some more EVs to Defense and Special Defense. Use Wish over Acid Armor.


Flygon/Fligon @ Focus Sash
Nature: Jolly +speed -sp. atk
Metagame tier: BL
Trait: Levitate
EVs:255 speed/255 atk
IVs:24atk/24speed

Moveset:
Dragon Claw
Crunch
Fire Blast
Earthquake

None of my real teams would be complete without this Pokemon. It outspeeds most salamance and ,occasionally, Weaviles. Dragon Claw for Dragons, Crunch for Psychics, and Earthquake for almost everything else. Fire Blast for forretress and Skarmory. Focus sash helps deal it at least deal one hit on a Garchomp or Salamance considering its HP is full. Also for some reason, it does all the sweeping...

Looks good.

Luxray/Lucksray @ Muscle Band
Nature: Adamant +atk -sp. atk.
Metagame Tier:MU
Trait:Intimidate
EVs:252 atk/252 speed/4HP
IVs:5atk/15speed

Moveset:
Spark
Ice Fang
Fire Fang
Crunch

For this one, I care more about the type versatility than its ability to attack. Spark over Thunder Fang because it has more PP, the same power, and more accuracy. Ice and Fire fangs for type coverage and Crunch for everything else.

If only Luxray had more Speed... I'd give it Choice Scarf. Also, Luxray wants more Attack IVs.


Breloom/Braylume @ Toxic Orb
Nature: Adamant
Metagame Tier: BL
Trait:poison Heal
EVs:255 atk/255 speed
IVs:19atk/21speed

Moveset:
Seed Bomb
Substitute
Sky Uppercut
Leech Seed

First off, substitute to activate toxic orb thus activating poison heal. In two turns, poison heal will heal the substitute damage. Leech Seed is for torturing opponent when I have a sub up. Also help heals up sub damage quicker. Seed bomb and Sky uppercut for attacking moves. Sky uppercut over Sub-Punch because sub-punch never works for me.

No Breloom is complete without Spore. If you're using Substitute, use Focus Punch over Sky Uppercut.


Porygon-z/Poreegon-z @ Expert Belt
Nature: Modest
Metagame Tier: OU
Trait: Download
EVs:255sp.atk/255speed
IVs:16sp.atk/25speed

Moveset:
Thunderbolt
Agility
Tri Attack
Ice Beam

Well here is my final pokemon. T-bolt and Ice beam for type coverage and get a welcome boost from download and/or expert belt. Tri-attack gets STAB and is used for everything else. Porygon-z is resiliant for some reason and can get a speed boost from agility if I use it which comes in handy later in the battle. Also I tried nasty plot and it doesnt' work very well with me.

Looks good.

Well here's my team with 255 EVs, poor IVs, and little competition grade pokemon. Rates anyone?
Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99
 

Aryman

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Def. need Spore on that Breloom. Gives you time to set up substitute. Replace leech seed. Give it Focus Punch instead of Sky Uppercut, you'll have plenty of opportunities to pull it off behind sub and spore. Mine is Jolly to give it some extra speed.

I like Luxray, but only because I used it in my in-game team. Electivire is a much better option for a physical electric type. Give it a try.
 

IC3R

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Def. need Spore on that Breloom. Gives you time to set up substitute. Replace leech seed. Give it Focus Punch instead of Sky Uppercut, you'll have plenty of opportunities to pull it off behind sub and spore. Mine is Jolly to give it some extra speed.

I like Luxray, but only because I used it in my in-game team. Electivire is a much better option for a physical electric type. Give it a try.
I think I'm beginning to not like E-Vire anymore...it's becoming a staple, if it wasn't already one...
 

Aryman

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I think I'm beginning to not like E-Vire anymore...it's becoming a staple, if it wasn't already one...
Everyone and their mother uses Electivire. But that's because its a very good pokemon.

The one thing I don't like is how everyone uses SkarmBliss. It's sooo predictable. And there are so many good wall pokemon out there other than those two.
 

jigglyppuff8

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Ok let's see here:
Skarmory: Main problem: EVs. solution: Lots and lots of tamato berries. Other problems: Whirlwind rather than roar. Conflicts: Involves Egg moves.
Vaporeon: Main problem: everything. solution: getting a new one
Flygon: Main problem: not as good as garchomp. Conflicts: I like Flygon
Luxray: Main problem: not as good as Electivire. Solution: get an electivire. Conflicts: Hard to obtain with the right moves
Breloom: Main problem: no spore. Solution: Breed a shroomish and level up to get spore. Conflicts: level 45 is when shroomish learns spore >_<.
Porygon-z: No problems.
I'll try to fix my team as soon as I can.
 

IC3R

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Ok let's see here:

Skarmory: Main problem: EVs. solution: Lots and lots of tamato berries. Other problems: Whirlwind rather than roar. Conflicts: Involves Egg moves.

Vaporeon: Main problem: everything. solution: getting a new one

Sleeper-Sweeper!!!:grin:

Flygon: Main problem: not as good as garchomp. Conflicts: I like Flygon

Luxray: Main problem: not as good as Electivire. Solution: get an electivire. Conflicts: Hard to obtain with the right moves

I can help you here...It's easy if you make Electivire Semi-FlinchHax. <-- (Is that okay, W4M?!)

Get a Hitmonlee, teach it Rolling Kick. Breed it with a Ditto, and you get a Tyrogue w/Rolling Kick. Raise that Tyrogue into a Hitmonchan, teach it Ice Punch and ThunderPunch. Breed it with a female Electabuzz/vire. BOOM! Elekid with T-Punch, Ice Punch, and Rolling Kick. Teach it Thunder Wave via TM 73. BOOM again! Semi-FlinchHax Electivire baby...

Or you could teach it ThunderBolt, Ice Punch, Cross Chop, and Earthquake just like every other person in this universe!!! So boring...


Breloom: Main problem: no spore. Solution: Breed a shroomish and level up to get spore. Conflicts: level 45 is when shroomish learns spore >_<.

Porygon-Z: No problems.

Of course...

I'll try to fix my team as soon as I can.
Okie-doke...
 

mood4food77

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do not use flinch-hax electivire

flinch-hax is for pokes that have the ability and the moves to make many critical hits

like togekiss for example

standard electivire is...

electivire@expert belt/black belt/life orb
lonely
252/144/80 (SPD/ATK/SP.ATK)
tbolt
ice punch
cross chop
earth quake
 

IC3R

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do not use flinch-hax electivire

flinch-hax is for pokes that have the ability and the moves to make many critical hits

like togekiss for example

That's why I said SEMI-FlinchHax...jeez

standard electivire is...

electivire@expert belt/black belt/life orb
lonely
252/144/80 (SPD/ATK/SP.ATK)
tbolt
ice punch
cross chop
earth quake
See? What'd I tell ya...
And stop picking on me M4F...-_-
 

Wii4Mii 99

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do not use flinch-hax electivire

flinch-hax is for pokes that have the ability and the moves to make many critical hits

like togekiss for example

standard electivire is...

electivire@expert belt/black belt/life orb
lonely
252/144/80 (SPD/ATK/SP.ATK)
tbolt
ice punch
cross chop
earth quake
*sigh*

The term "FlinchHax" is referred to Pokemon with an attack that has a 30% or more Flinch rate, Serene Grace and possibly an attack that causes paralysis.

If a Pokemon is paralyzed, they have a 10% chance of not being able to successfully attack that turn.

If a Pokemon flinches, the Pokemon cannot attack for that turn.

Serene Grace doubles the effect of attacks' chance of occuring. With Serene Grace, a 30% flinch rate now becomes 60%, now meaning they have a 6/10 chance of not moving that turn.

Combine a 30% flinch rate attack with paralysis and Serene Grace, and the opponent only has a 30% chance off successfully attacking that turn.

This is to IC3R:

ONLY POKEMON WITH SERENE GRACE CAN USE FLINChHAX.

A move that flinches, even if the opponent is paralyzed, does not classify that Pokemon as being able to hone FlicnhHax.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99
 

IC3R

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*sigh*

The term "FlinchHax" is referred to Pokemon with an attack that has a 30% or more Flinch rate, Serene Grace and possibly an attack that causes paralysis.

If a Pokemon is paralyzed, they have a 10% chance of not being able to successfully attack that turn.

If a Pokemon flinches, the Pokemon cannot attack for that turn.

Serene Grace doubles the effect of attacks' chance of occuring. With Serene Grace, a 30% flinch rate now becomes 60%, now meaning they have a 6/10 chance of not moving that turn.

Combine a 30% flinch rate attack with paralysis and Serene Grace, and the opponent only has a 30% chance off successfully attacking that turn.

This is to IC3R:

ONLY POKEMON WITH SERENE GRACE CAN USE FLINChHAX.

A move that flinches, even if the opponent is paralyzed, does not classify that Pokemon as being able to hone FlicnhHax.

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Wii4Mii 99
THAT'S WHY I SAID "SEMI-FLINCHHAX!!!!!!!!Jesus Christ Almighty, I'm just getting picked on all day today...
 

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THAT'S WHY I SAID "SEMI-FLINCHHAX!!!!!!!!Jesus Christ Almighty, I'm just getting picked on all day today...
THERE IS NO "SEMI-FLINCHHAX".

Granting one the ability to use King's Rock or a flinching move without Serene Grace does not grant one the recognizability of being a "FlinchHaxer".

I don't know if "recognizability" is a word...

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THERE IS NO "SEMI-FLINCHHAX".

Granting one the ability to use King's Rock or a flinching move without Serene Grace does not grant one the recognizability of being a "FlinchHaxer".

Why not?

I don't know if "recognizability" is a word...

Recognition...

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Wii4Mii 99
I don't understand why you're so angry with me "misusing" the term 'FlinchHax.' I said "Semi-FlinchHax," but apparantly that's not a good enough tone down...I guess I should make up my own word...But then again, if there's no term for what I did, no one will know about it...:evil: -Hehehe...
 

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I don't understand why you're so angry with me "misusing" the term 'FlinchHax.' I said "Semi-FlinchHax," but apparantly that's not a good enough tone down...I guess I should make up my own word...But then again, if there's no term for what I did, no one will know about it...:evil: -Heheee...
Recognition... That's the word.

Still, recognizability sound better.

Anyways, I'm sorry if I ever offended you.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99
 

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Meh, none taken...

We're just overrunning these forums, aren't we?
Sorta.

I feel like just because I've reached the 1000 post mark I have more privileges. I don't and won't until I become a BRoomer.

If tshahi ever sees this:

I have recognized my own mistake and will try to stop. No need to rant and hate mii more than you already do.

JP8, you have the floor now.

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Uhhh.... Dunsparce FTL?
@ IC3R

See? JP8 has the right idea. Dunsparce is an example of a Pokemon that can use FlinchHax.

Anyways, I wouldn't use Dunsparce. It's too slow and can't hit that hard.

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@ IC3R

See? JP8 has the right idea. Dunsparce is an example of a Pokemon that can use FlinchHax.

Anyways, I wouldn't use Dunsparce. It's too slow and can't hit that hard.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99
Okay, okay, I get it...Serene Gracers are the only ones who can "officially" FlinchHax.

For it being slow and weak, we have a solution : it's an evolution!!! Go, Levisparce!!!
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Okay, okay, I get it...Serene Gracers are the only ones who can "officially" FlinchHax.

For it being slow and weak, we have a solution : it's an evolution!!! Go, Levisparce!!!
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Keep the evo ideas on my thread.

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Keep the evo ideas on my thread.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99
Alright, but this way, if we mention something about your 5th Gen Thread (while staying on-topic, of course), folks will be curious and look at it! Then, our Pokes and their attacks/abilities will get more public recognition! Royalties for us! :chuckle:

Alright, JP8. Your turn again...
 

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Uhhhh.. Hey look at me! I'm doing a little dance! *starts dancing*

[serious]Okay, here is what I have planned for my training:
Sleeper sweeper vaporeon.(need help on getting HP electric on it)
Garchomp(adamant/hates to lose)
Breloom replacement: another breloom?
Luxray replacement: Jolteon or Electivire(not likely)
tamato berrying and 252 HP skarmory. "I'll get the water"[/serious]

JP8 spells: JigglyPuff8
jpp8 spells: jigglyppuff8
Get it right!!!
 

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Again, one option for Vaporeon is the idea of...
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Sleeper Sweeper Vaporeon: Strategy - Sleep'n'Sweep (heh...I like that)
@ Leftovers @ Water Absorb
Bold Nature (+Def,-Att)
EV - Def 252, SpDf 152, Spd/SpAt 106 (your choice)

Surf <-- STAB, High Power
Hidden Power (Electric) <-- For pesky Water types like Gyarados and Milotic (Surf can cover Swampert), hope it doesn't hit E-Vire while Sleep-Sweeping
Rest <-- Restore HP fully and heal status condition
Sleep Talk <-- Sets up Sleep'n'Sweep, Max out the PP for maximum results

Attack, attack, attack. Rest. Sleep Talk until it's out of PP. Use HP Electric on the Gyarados staple, the Milotic Wall, and Rock-Roar Empoleon, as well as SpikeWind Skarmory. Use Surf for everything else. Always worked in the Metal and Jewel cases. Be careful around E-Vire, you may accidentally activate Motor Drive with HP Electric. Wish actually sounds better than Rest, unless E-Vire's faster than Vaporeon, in which case Wish will heal the next guy you send out, because ThunderPunch>owns>Vaporeon. ThunderPunch is why Vaporeon is Bold and has Def EVs, plus Earthquake from Garchomp.
I'm just wondering, could I sub HP electric with HP grass(It's close to HP electric)? Also doesn't vaporeon need some HP EVs?
 
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