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GamerGuitarist7
Smash Champion
lol man, it doesn't take that long. just practice a little bit and you'll get it 
Falco's short hop is way easy so once you have that down you've pretty much got it. just get the motion in your fingers. good luck :-D
edit/ the thing that takes a good amount of practice are things like approaching and retreating iwth the SHL, read this guide if you haven't already
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35379
Falco's short hop is way easy so once you have that down you've pretty much got it. just get the motion in your fingers. good luck :-Dedit/ the thing that takes a good amount of practice are things like approaching and retreating iwth the SHL, read this guide if you haven't already
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35379
DJ Boonbuggy
Smash Apprentice
Gamer said it, but let me reiterate... it's really just getting the rhythm. As was discussed in another thread, the perfect SHL is 27 frames long, if that means anything to you. (6 jump, 17 min ff time, 4 landing lag). But if that makes no sense to you, just keep a rhythm in your hands while practicing. And for practical purposes attempt to make the laser go about halfway between the peak of your jump and the ground. I wish there were more to say to help you, bud, but just practice. I'm sure you'll get it soon enough
h.e.x
Smash Rookie
Not to flog the dead sheep or anything, but I'd just like to throw this in: try not to get a high SHL burned into your muscle memory. It can be a ***** to get out.
mathos
Smash Champion
If you can short hop, then press B, you'll on the right track. After that it becomes cake, just experiment with pressing down at different times, wa la SHL.
I made a video yesterday of me fighting a level 9 Marth and I attempted the SHB a few times...and usually missed.
Heres the link: http://youtube.com/watch?v=St8ps9TyjC4
Heres the link: http://youtube.com/watch?v=St8ps9TyjC4
DJ Boonbuggy
Smash Apprentice
A couple of things about the video:
1) make sure to jump out of your shines, no matter what... never stay in shine like you did (took me a long time to get used to it, don't worry)
2) I don't know if you were purposefully doing it to jump over his sword or not, but make sure to get SHFFLing down if you can't do it consistently. I saw a good bit of shffling in there, but I also saw a good bit of Full hop dairs, so just making sure you meant to do them.
3) For your SHL, try pressing B faster before you Fast Fall... You're pressing it too late (Fast Falling really well though, good job!) and that's making your laser not come out. Press B sooner and you'll get a feel for when you need to hit B to place your laser where you want it.
4) This is a hard habit to break, but everyone needs to some time: try not to roll as much. Rolling in competitive play will get your **** ruined most of the time, try to learn to wavedash instead of roll.
All in all, good work man. You're definitely getting there, just try to work on some of the things I mentioned, and you'll get better quickly. But definitely a nice job! ^_^ Keep it up!
1) make sure to jump out of your shines, no matter what... never stay in shine like you did (took me a long time to get used to it, don't worry)
2) I don't know if you were purposefully doing it to jump over his sword or not, but make sure to get SHFFLing down if you can't do it consistently. I saw a good bit of shffling in there, but I also saw a good bit of Full hop dairs, so just making sure you meant to do them.
3) For your SHL, try pressing B faster before you Fast Fall... You're pressing it too late (Fast Falling really well though, good job!) and that's making your laser not come out. Press B sooner and you'll get a feel for when you need to hit B to place your laser where you want it.
4) This is a hard habit to break, but everyone needs to some time: try not to roll as much. Rolling in competitive play will get your **** ruined most of the time, try to learn to wavedash instead of roll.
All in all, good work man. You're definitely getting there, just try to work on some of the things I mentioned, and you'll get better quickly. But definitely a nice job! ^_^ Keep it up!
it took me 5 minutes to learn shl. thats not the hard part. it took me much longer to be able to use it in battle effectively. you have to learn to aim at different heights as well and get it low on command., and learn how to reverse shl. keep doing it and eventually it will become second nature and you will do it instead of walking lol.
I myself still have the problem of fastfalling too soon/ not pressing B fast enough, but keep practicing, like everyone has said.
Another piece of advice, if that video you made was what you do regularly to practice Smash. Don't practice against level 9s. You will set yourself up for failure against human players for you are fighting something that has reflexes past that of a human. Just fight against lvl 1-2s. But if it was just for the purpose of the video then forgive me
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Another piece of advice, if that video you made was what you do regularly to practice Smash. Don't practice against level 9s. You will set yourself up for failure against human players for you are fighting something that has reflexes past that of a human. Just fight against lvl 1-2s. But if it was just for the purpose of the video then forgive me
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Akasuna no Sasori
Smash Apprentice
That's pretty much what I do. I always SHL towards opponents and hardly ever just run, unless I am runing away because my RSHL(reverse short hop laser) isn't good and I usually end up doing a phantasm either right into my opponent or to my death.
Why do you reccomend me to fight level 1-2 bots? Wouldn't it make sense to try harder stuff against harder bots? I understand that they have fast reflexes...but wouldn't it make more sense?I myself still have the problem of fastfalling too soon/ not pressing B fast enough, but keep practicing, like everyone has said.
Another piece of advice, if that video you made was what you do regularly to practice Smash. Don't practice against level 9s. You will set yourself up for failure against human players for you are fighting something that has reflexes past that of a human. Just fight against lvl 1-2s. But if it was just for the purpose of the video then forgive me
Because fighting level 9s, well they have inhuman reflexes, power shielding just about anything. You will subconsciously get into the habit of stalling your attacks/shields to compare with their speed. Training on Level 1-2s you won't have that problem, for you should just practice combos on them.
For the ESHLing, pretty much yes, that is what they do. You ledge drop, jump and do an SHL DIing from the fastfall on to the stage, or do a double laser, which is just pressing B twice instead of fastfalling. If you do the double correctly the lasers should shoot at the same height, but as long as they both connect with your opponent it doesn't mastter.
For the ESHLing, pretty much yes, that is what they do. You ledge drop, jump and do an SHL DIing from the fastfall on to the stage, or do a double laser, which is just pressing B twice instead of fastfalling. If you do the double correctly the lasers should shoot at the same height, but as long as they both connect with your opponent it doesn't mastter.
Falco's wavedash is harder than most characters because he has a slower jump animation... the wavedash took me a little time to get used to when I started out because of this. What is probably happening when you full jump is the fact that you forget about wavedashing... when you focus too much on the tech skill you have a good chance of messing up since you're under pressure to perform. Eventually everything will become second nature and you won't even think about wavedashing shl, shffls or any of that stuff... then you can actually start to play the game
Akasuna no Sasori
Smash Apprentice
It is easier to do when running, but I'm not exactly sure why. I think it takes you longer to hit the ground again but I'm not quite sure on that.
And yeah, like xelad said, the more you focus on trying to do something the more likely you are to mess it up because you are under more pressure. I learned how to wavedash for the first time in a very odd way actually. Anytime I got a KO I'd just try wavedashing until eventually I got it down,
Im no pro and not trying to say your wrong but I've found it easier to do hitting down and then using y or x to jump and hitting the laser as fast as you can, I was reading a post from I believe it was shiz saying he hits down then up, personally i've had trouble using left or right but whatever works best for you and you can pull off is the right way.
Yea...I was pressing down. I tried the ledges again and I can do it...but I fly too far out and I end up turning around and shooting the wrong way...and eventually falling.